Zach777
Smash Journeyman
I am pretty sure Puff can just hit Bowser with dair/get away before Bowser's uair connects from his uthrow even with bad DI. Bowser's Uthrow -> fair barely works against Puff to begin with.
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how many actioanble frames of intangibility can he accquire because of this?
Can we talk about the future?
(I'm never sure how to introduce this thread so pardon if this is hard to understand.)I'm surprised that Lucas isn't higher!?! His PK fire (or what was his PK fire) has crazy good range and over all I feel he had good buffs. Where's the love????
Sound pretty deep? Yeah. Confusing? Yeah. This thread is mostly pages and pages and pages of nonsense. That's because (a), the process of figuring out anything nearly as complicated as a definitive Tier List for Project M is kinda grueling and (b), everyone on this website has a whacked-out sense of humor. The PM community is stabilizing, so we're kinda going through growing pains at the moment. Sorry for the mess.
Indigeau bringing out the red carpet for the new member. Good job ^_^.
This kind of unproductive post is the type Indigeau was talking about.
Yup, we should nerf him...oh waitSo DK is broken now, right?
norcal has been saying this for the past year tbhor you have to think that DK may not be a bottom 5 character, which for anyone outside of Ontario is a new concept lol.
i just cut the middleman and ***** about fox.-People talk about how crap a character is/they never talk about him
-Said character places well/high/wins a big tournament
-ohthat'ssodamnbroken.bit
-the oceans converge to the tier list thread
-insert talk about said character being stupid in some way
-insert crying about how said character beats their character
-5 pages of people discuss said character's overpowered stuff
-Asks for said character to be nerfed and theirs to be buffed
-Somehow the topic gets back to fax
And so the cycle continues.
You do realize the banana is sentient and just uses the monkey as a host right?Thunderz could still win against all those characters because he's good unless the other player is better.
His banana counterplay was cringe worthy at it's best. If he had solid item play I think he could have put a bigger dent in June. He even said that Diddy himself wasn't that bad, it was just everything revolving around the banana.
Fox as number 1.So after yesterydays tournament i think i can all agree that this is an accurate top 6 list:
It's the internal struggle between saying DK sucks for the last 3 years and freaking out after DK can clearly do well.You guys aren't freaking out all that much. C'mon, I expect more from you! Kappa
Also, still waiting on that MK revolution people are calling for...
while I disagree with diddy being the best character in the game (tricky wave bounce movement and ledge stalls and a means to beat sheilds don't help stop fox rush down or being unable to get in/kill samus or deal with m2's who know the good item tech) diddy is pretty god damn ****ing goodHave you seen the gfys softie has been posting lately? Diddy Kong is low key the best character in this game, just wait a year and maybe we'll stop thinking fox is untouchable.
he has beaten machiavelli before in tournament at humble dojo, and thinks that matchup isn't that bad so theres that. also he 3 stocked (well 2 stocked but one was an sd cause he was trying to style too hard) stereokidd in the west coast vs out of state crew battle that happened later LOLIt's the internal struggle between saying DK sucks for the last 3 years and freaking out after DK can clearly do well.
I agree that his bracket didn't have to players of terrible matchups (Ness is bad though) but even out of the ones SB mentioned I think Snake, Samus, and ROB are fine.
Him not running into Stereo was a blessing to be honest. I'd love to see them play.
Wow didn't know about the Stereo match, that's pretty wicked.he has beaten machiavelli before in tournament at humble dojo, and thinks that matchup isn't that bad so theres that. also he 3 stocked (well 2 stocked but one was an sd cause he was trying to style too hard) stereokidd in the west coast vs out of state crew battle that happened later LOL
regardless I just think DK isn't bottom 5, just still on the lower half of the cast so don't think I'm calling him broken because i definitely know its just ThundeRz being a god
Idk if anyone has said it yet, because I didn't read anything past your post, but DK has a good MU with Samus. Has one in melee too. Bair > Missiles, and he can still kill confirm off of grabs. Plus her CC game is pretty mehish against him. And with the introduction of RAR bairs, he's pretty good at covering her WD back>tilts.Dk still sucks (comparatively, all chars are at least scary when a really good player uses them) imo but thunderz is a god. And he ran into no matchups where dks weaknesses became crippling other than vs junebug diddy, who played the mu wrong early on in gfs. In a mu where a char is super floaty so his combos don't work, a char has disjoint to contend with his range, a char with spammable projectiles, or a combination of the above, DK should as a general rule struggle heavily. Would love to see how thunderz would fare against a comparably skilled g&w, Rob, toon link, Samus, snake, Mewtwo, Ivysaur, etc.. Just kinda the standard with PM tournaments lately, all characters are capable of making it super deep in a challenging field when used by a very skilled player and the matchups align well.
There's no way in hell I'd pick Roy vs him, if we played it would be boring because I would throw bombs with TLI'd like to see a set of him vs lunchables, roy or TL would be fun
For now anywayOr y'know bottom 5 in this game doesn't mean jack considering that there is no character that is terrible all around. Meaning the lines between the tiers are blurry so pick whoever the hell you want and just win.
Or y'know bottom 5 in this game doesn't mean jack considering that there is no character that is terrible all around. Meaning the lines between the tiers are blurry so pick whoever the hell you want and just win.
It's murder both ways, but GnW has a machinegun of bacon and DK has a knife.but does dk beat gnw