Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Raziek]

I have played both @Ultimastrike and @Delzethin a solid amount in training sessions since they asked me for advice.

I also played @ LIQUID12A as part of a Disco Room Round Robin thing.

Edit:

Oh wow. Robin was robbed pretty hard by that Mario Kart 7 stage.

Robin? You mean ME? orz

 

[Hong]

Robin? You mean ME? orz

Robin is the queen of robbing. It is in her namesake, hence why I specified the character.

 

[Raziek]

Robin is the queen of robbing. It is in her namesake, hence why I specified the character.

 

[The Merc]

If any Zelda stage should be dropped for Hyrule Castle it should be Bridge of Eldin.


Any way we still don't know all of the stages left in Smash Wii U, maybe the entire stage list can be pushed to 55.

Likes x 1000. Serious. I can't believe we didn't think of the Bridge of Eldin. I mean serious, I would much prefer Hyrule castle to Bridge of Eldin, MUCH.

 

[IceAnt573]

Oh wow. Robin was robbed pretty hard by that Mario Kart 7 stage.

Mario Kart 8 actually and that stage is probably getting banned. It looked so cool too...

It gets the honor of being better than Brawl Mario Circuit which is strangely in this game too.

 

[Raziek]

Yeah, I'm personally leaning towards banned on that one. Track interfered way too many times when the stage itself was moving around. The STOPPED parts themselves are fine, but there shouldn't be walls periodically showing up that just might happen to save your opponent.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Wow, Windy Hill's ceiling is surprisingly low.

Robin will enjoy killing at 90 with Levin Uair there.

 

[The Merc]

Yeah, I'm personally leaning towards banned on that one. Track interfered way too many times when the stage itself was moving around. The STOPPED parts themselves are fine, but there shouldn't be walls periodically showing up that just might happen to save your opponent.

Are there any other stages that you think should be banned? I hope Skyloft isn't one. It's too pretty.

Wow, Windy Hill's ceiling is surprisingly low.

Robin will enjoy killing at 90 with Levin Uair there.

What about the Bumpers? Do they cripple recovering players?

 

[Hong]

Smash 4 character life-spans.

 

[The Merc]

Smash 4 character life-spans.

I don't get it.

 

[Raziek]

Are there any other stages that you think should be banned? I hope Skyloft isn't one. It's too pretty.

What about the Bumpers? Do they cripple recovering players?

The bumpers have been fine thus far, nothing crazy has happened. They aren't even always there.

My preliminary legal list:

Town & City
Big Battlefield (Providing it can't be circle-camped in singles)
Duck Hunt
Coliseum*
Miiverse
Pilotwings
Windy Hill
Mario Galaxy*
Skyloft
Wii Fit Studio*
Wuhu Island
Wooly World* (Possible circle?)
Smashville
Battlefield
Kongo 64
Final Destination (and Omegas)
Castle Siege
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Delfino
Norfair
Pokemon Stadium 2

For a total of 22 stages. Stages marked with Asterisks I would only keep if walk-offs remain okay. So far in playtesting they haven't been an extreme problem due to the absence of CG's.

Norfair and PS2 may stay, might not. Depends on how much people complain. With 20 other stages I'm not willing to deal with the headache again trying to convince people.

I'm also considering Orbital Gate Assault and Garden of Hope, because I haven't played on them enough yet. (Or at all, in GoH's case)

 

[The Merc]

The bumpers have been fine thus far, nothing crazy has happened. They aren't even always there.

My preliminary legal list:

Town & City
Big Battlefield (Providing it can't be circle-camped in singles)
Duck Hunt
Coliseum*
Miiverse
Pilotwings
Windy Hill
Mario Galaxy*
Skyloft
Wii Fit Studio*
Wuhu Island
Wooly World* (Possible circle?)
Smashville
Battlefield
Kongo 64
Final Destination (and Omegas)
Castle Siege
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Delfino
Norfair
Pokemon Stadium 2

For a total of 22 stages. Stages marked with Asterisks I would only keep if walk-offs remain okay. So far in playtesting they haven't been an extreme problem due to the absence of CG's.

Norfair and PS2 may stay, might not. Depends on how much people complain. With 20 other stages I'm not willing to deal with the headache again trying to convince people.

I'm also considering Orbital Gate Assault and Garden of Hope, because I haven't played on them enough yet. (Or at all, in GoH's case)

But battle field has be fine in a previous installments, what makes this one any different?

 

[Raziek]

But battle field has be fine in a previous installments, what makes this one any different?

You must have misread. Not Battlefield. BIG Battlefield. The one designed for 5+ players.

 

[The Merc]

You must have misread. Not Battlefield. BIG Battlefield. The one designed for 5+ players.

AH. Yes, yes I did. My mistake

 

[Shaymikyu]

The bumpers have been fine thus far, nothing crazy has happened. They aren't even always there.

My preliminary legal list:

Town & City
Big Battlefield (Providing it can't be circle-camped in singles)
Duck Hunt
Coliseum*
Miiverse
Pilotwings
Windy Hill
Mario Galaxy*
Skyloft
Wii Fit Studio*
Wuhu Island
Wooly World* (Possible circle?)
Smashville
Battlefield
Kongo 64
Final Destination (and Omegas)
Castle Siege
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Delfino
Norfair
Pokemon Stadium 2

For a total of 22 stages. Stages marked with Asterisks I would only keep if walk-offs remain okay. So far in playtesting they haven't been an extreme problem due to the absence of CG's.

Norfair and PS2 may stay, might not. Depends on how much people complain. With 20 other stages I'm not willing to deal with the headache again trying to convince people.

I'm also considering Orbital Gate Assault and Garden of Hope, because I haven't played on them enough yet. (Or at all, in GoH's case)

Wait, Pokémon Stadium 2 is for sure back? Ewww, no, I thought we were finally rid of that curse. At least between the two versions we have at least three stages based on ACTUAL game locations. Even if it's not the best stage, I would have rather had Spear Pillar because it actually exists.

Seriously, though, never got some of their Pokémon stage choices. Melee could have had Mt. Silver, or Tin/Bell Tower, or the Ecruteak Dance Theater or something else Johto. Instead of Stadium 2 in Brawl, we could have gotten the Cave of Origin, or Sky Pillar, Battle Frontier, Sootopolis, New Mauville... Or so many more.

Sorry, Pokémon fan rant there. I'm just sick of my favorite franchise getting stuck with the incredibly generic Stadium stages that barely have anything to do with the franchise except vaguely representing types. Even Pokéfloats at least featured the actual Pokémon.

 

[Raziek]

Unfortunately Kalos is gonna be super banned. That stage looked so cool. ;_;

 

[AustarusIV]

I come bearing a gift, my tacticians.

Looks like that Mario Kart 8 stage will be banned in tournaments, if your video was of any indication.

Seriously, you should have had that match in the bag, not that I'm saying that the Lucario player wasn't incredible (which is far from it).

 

[Raziek]

*shrug*

It was a spontaneous informal 7-person tourney in the basement of my house, lol. I'm over it. We learn, and we move on.

(I also got 2nd place obviously)

 

[AustarusIV]

Still, it looks like the stage lineup is more balanced than the 3DS version's. In that game we had, uh...(discounting the Omega stages)

• Battlefield
• Final Destination
  
• Yoshi's Island
• Arena Ferox
  
• Prism Tower

I think? Meanwhile, this game seems to have more viable stages for tournament play, which is another plus towards getting it.

 

[Tuvillo]

Tomodachi Life isn't bad either.

But it seems Sakurai is actively destroying stages that are fine at first sight. (Demonstration: Yoshi's Woolly World)

 

[Hong]

I don't get it.

I am saying I am not pleased with the average stock longevity in Smash 4 in general. I was hoping we could comfortably play around 4-5 stocks this time.

 

[LIQUID12A]

You just made me feel ten years older.

Thanks, brah.

Oops

I am sowwy

Seriously, guys, 'twas a joke, it wasn't MEANT to get blown out of proportion it kinda just, did.
Apologies to: @ The Merc , @ Shaymikyu , @ Hong , and @ LIQUID12A

Nah, I should apologize for not stating in small strikethrough text that I love overreacting

 

[Tuvillo]

Stocks in this game aren't as long as they were on average in Brawl, but there's enough situations where they ARE.

3 stocks is probably the most we can comfortably play. 2 Stock is only a thing because Sakurai made it a thing, of course.

 

[Pazzo.]

Man, it's been a while since I've visited here.. *Stupid Alert system*

Have a gif.

 

[Kenith]

I don't know where else to say this atm, so I'll vent here.
I have just obtained the rarest of treasures, in any game ever made...

The Pure Bladestone.

This ****ing rock. This thing caused to quit playing my favorite game for a year. After what is probably several days and hundreds of dead skeletons of work, I finally got the damn thing to drop.
So goddamn happy right now. Now that I have this one, I'm going to dupe it and make every possible weapon upgrade with it out of spite.

If you want a taste of what I just went through, just visit any thread with its name in the title (there are many) and read what poor Demon's Souls players have to say.

BTW, I'm going to tie this in to Fire Emblem. I hate level grinding in Awakening. I don't have DLC, and it is exhausting and not fun. But AT LEAST because it's leveling, at least it's slow progress towards a goal. But grinding for drops is the most garbage, time-wasting thing and no game should ever have it. There is only so much **** I can take from the Random Number Gods before I find something more fun and productive to do.

 

[Pazzo.]

@ Raziek - If you have the time, would you mind doing a few 1 v 1s against my Robin? I seriously need to improve.

 

[ThunderSageNun]

Wait, Pokémon Stadium 2 is for sure back? Ewww, no, I thought we were finally rid of that curse. At least between the two versions we have at least three stages based on ACTUAL game locations. Even if it's not the best stage, I would have rather had Spear Pillar because it actually exists.

Seriously, though, never got some of their Pokémon stage choices. Melee could have had Mt. Silver, or Tin/Bell Tower, or the Ecruteak Dance Theater or something else Johto. Instead of Stadium 2 in Brawl, we could have gotten the Cave of Origin, or Sky Pillar, Battle Frontier, Sootopolis, New Mauville... Or so many more.

Sorry, Pokémon fan rant there. I'm just sick of my favorite franchise getting stuck with the incredibly generic Stadium stages that barely have anything to do with the franchise except vaguely representing types. Even Pokéfloats at least featured the actual Pokémon.

they wouldn't be so bad if they didn't feel so generic, the changes they make don't really feel all that interesting, they are definitely my least favorite of the Pokemon stages.
It'd be cool if Colisseum had some mechanic trying to resemble more the purpose of its location, like, if a player beats a certain character, they get an item as a reward (just...don't make it as unbalanced as in WarioWare)

 

[Raziek]

@ Raziek - If you have the time, would you mind doing a few 1 v 1s against my Robin? I seriously need to improve.

Hit me up on Skype brah, easiest way to get at me.

 

[Pazzo.]

Hit me up on Skype brah, easiest way to get at me.

I assume that your skype username is the same as your name here?

 

[Raziek]

I assume that your skype username is the same as your name here?

Not quite! It's in my profile info: jordan_mcgee

 

[Pazzo.]

Not quite! It's in my profile info: jordan_mcgee

Alright. I'll shoot you a message soon.

Is sometime around, say 12:30 (CST) fine for you?

 

[Raziek]

Alright. I'll shoot you a message soon.

Is sometime around, say 12:30 (CST) fine for you?

Most likely, I have no plans at the moment.

 

[Pazzo.]

Most likely, I have no plans at the moment.

Prepare yourself for inconceivable mediocrity.

 

[Raziek]

Prepare yourself for inconceivable mediocrity.

I shall ready my pity glands for maximum output.

And spice up the advice device.

 

[Syrek]

I come bearing a gift, my tacticians.

WOW! INCREDIBLE!!!

Seriously, those were some absolutely amazing matches between and ! I only hope that one day I can become as skilled and well versed with Robin as you are.

 

[Raziek]

WOW! INCREDIBLE!!!

Seriously, those were some absolutely amazing matches between and ! I only hope that one day I can become as skilled and well versed with Robin as you are.

You're too kind, haha.

 

[Pazzo.]

I shall ready my pity glands for maximum output.

And spice up the advice device.

I'll go ahead and add your friendcode then!

Also, should I bring my customs?

 

[Raziek]

Yes. I always play with customs.

 

[Pazzo.]

Yes. I always play with customs.

Gotcha. I added you on Skype and my 3DS.

 

[Drakonis]

I thought I already had an S support with @ Drakonis .

Last time I checked, that was still the case. I mean, we might not interact quite as often anymore, but you know what they say... Absence makes the heart grow fonder!
And everytime I read a post from you:

'Tis true. It is said Dracula rises again at the turn of the century.

Though Dracula is nowhere near as evil.

What is a ship?

I shall ready my pity glands for maximum output.

And spice up the advice device.

I might ask you for a match or two one of these days. I could use some more training. Probably not today though.