Zori
Smash Champion
i know the match up but apparently im not a 'good' olimar because i lost a friendly 7 months ago
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No, it's because you play blue gloves :3i know the match up but apparently im not a 'good' olimar because i lost a friendly 7 months ago
Dude, your good. Stop getting down on yourselfi know the match up but apparently im not a 'good' olimar because i lost a friendly 7 months ago
My wii is still in repair so I can't...I'd like to note from playing MJG today that if Olimar shields the Nair it's almost always a free upsmash.
Counter arguments / strategies?
Offer is still up to play some of you on lolwifi.... though wifi is terribad <.<
~Fino
I just got done playing one of the tlinks... full hopped fair seemed to beat out tlinks nair... though fullhoping close range with olimar is relatively high-risk high-reward.My wii is still in repair so I can't...
But yeah, can't Toon Link fast fall his nair to stop your usmash? And any shielded attack can usually be punished with quick reactions. I remember first seeing Dojo vs. M2K...they only attacked in front of each other, not directly on each others shields. Olimar might even be able to punish with a fair huh?
If this is the case, and if you and other olimars decided to exploit this too much, we could just run under you and start a Bair chain (Depending on the percentage obviously)
I just got done playing one of the tlinks... full hopped fair seemed to beat out tlinks nair... though fullhoping close range with olimar is relatively high-risk high-reward.
Anyways... just PM me or hit me on aim (Fino0437) I'm bored tonight now that the 4th is over.... prolly fall asleep in an hour or so.
I'll be waiting :D
~Fino
mmm...i would say take the bulk of the information from people who contributed something that is actually "useful" but you can't really wrap anything up considering the fact that you are right, this discussion has way too many opinions. You can still formulate something im sureIts hard to do a summary when there are so many different oppinions on the matchup >_>.
Weren't you the one saying nair and arrow win this match-up?That's not really a key point in this matchup though...you should never be wailing on someones sheild in the first place. Too easy to punish. Space further away lol
Not in the slightest...no attack should be used on someones sheild, that's how you get punished. And there's ways to get around that. I can full hop a nair and land with a zair. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretttty confident a full hopped nair can't be punished by a usmash.
Weren't you the one saying nair and arrow win this match-up?
@.@ So if you use your winning move in the match-up.... and I shield it, and it's punishable by a dashing usmash.... doesn't that put a hole in your strategy?
~Fino
You can Bair a shield while moving into your opponent and air dodge and avoid almost any move ( i say this because idk if you can avoid everything)Not in the slightest...no attack should be used on someones sheild, that's how you get punished. And there's ways to get around that. I can full hop a nair and land with a zair. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretttty confident a full hopped nair can't be punished by a usmash.
I assume they buffered the Nairs?I still don't know how you guys do full hop Nair and hit them on the way up. o_O
maybe I'm missing something.
The pikmin interrupt most of the bomb play unless your jumping all over the place on a stage like FD...even then olimar can punish...I bomb works fairly well and i am still able to throw a bomb when I JC throw a bomb but most of the time, the pikmin placement on tink will interrupt bomb play easily...there was honestly a little while where I forgot how to full hop after just picking up TL
FH nair definitely helps a lot in this matchup. And bombs aren't too bad if you just stick with ibomb
Thats just one olimar. Trust me, every olimar is different outside of the start up combos that they do. You can't really learn a match up until you practice it with at least one other olimar @.@. Besides, Santi himself even said in the description for his video that he was just playing loosely during the friendly and you can see that with the number of times he attempted to f smash against olimar. He gives a good understanding on how to be aggressive though.i actually learned the matchup from watching santi in his playboy tl outfit vs cake. bombs arent as bad in this matchup as people make them about to be if i attempt it its a fullhop throw with a rang thrown downwards to i agree with hyro though. random side note wtf were people thinking when they thought of *tink* cmon now he already dresses like peter pan just stop plz
Rude much?Quit Brawl, and quit Toon Link, and not neccesarily in that order.
Ummm ok? Ur flame was completely unnecessary and uncalled for.Quit Brawl, and quit Toon Link, and not neccesarily in that order.
Wow, your flame was so random.........gtfo.Quit Brawl, and quit Toon Link, and not neccesarily in that order.
just sayin its a more updated video since some got mad when hyro used the one from the year 1678 jkThats just one olimar. Trust me, every olimar is different outside of the start up combos that they do. You can't really learn a match up until you practice it with at least one other olimar @.@. Besides, Santi himself even said in the description for his video that he was just playing loosely during the friendly and you can see that with the number of times he attempted to f smash against olimar. He gives a good understanding on how to be aggressive though.
Note: I found that an arrow, whether it is charge or not, will usually take away olimars second jump when hes recovering. This is more situational than anything. I also found that when playing against fino's olimar that Zair to a dash attack when olimar is on the ledge sets up for an easy follow from fair, nair or you can just hang on the ledge immediately because i know that he does this if he is too low and doesn't think that he will make it. Dash attack is awesome. Hyro already expressed its pure Awesomeness and this is just one more thing to prove that he is right. ^_^
Jash agrees with my numbers... and so does jerm... and jash posts in green.Even matchup i believe, it can go either way as i study the matchup.
ban *****^^^Quit Brawl, and quit Toon Link, and not neccesarily in that order.
Because Jash is a noob >_>Why do we even have these discussions if we can just ask Jash his opinions on them?
*fixed*Olimar's biggest weakness is his priority.
Don't listen to fino. He is a scrub (much love <3)
*fixed*
Only glaring problem... otherwise I say it's not bad ;D
~Fino
the last time i was tlaking about the top olimars with u fino was a looong time ago. :/ im sure ive caught up to u by now offline lol
Two of your 4 prolimars you've heard of put me in their top five list in the nation (for olimar). One of them (weruop) said I'm flat out better than him in IRL play. We don't really rank ourselves in a 1-2-3 order, we have a mutual respect for each other and base people in a general skill area... never do we say this one person is better than that other person unless it's someone admitting that they aren't as good as someone else.
Just for name throwing around
Also, I didn't disreguard what everyone said... I made some minor adjustments and help to questions raised and comments made. You can't have a match-up discussion with ill-informed members and bias members... which is why people often ask that mains from other forums come in and discuss with them.
Also note that I am very afraid of tlink, which is why I said I lean towards a 50-50.
~Fino