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Toon Link Matchup Rediscussion: Marth
- Thread starter MaskedAvnger
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Lobos
Smash Master
NH Cody
Smash Champion
I like smashville and FD...
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
ban bf or lylat. take him to sv or ps
NH Cody
Smash Champion
If you're going go SV, watch out for those platform cancels lol, gets me every time 
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
i love sv. every toon should be good on all the nuetrals becasue most likely ull never play on fd. so i jus take every1 to sv or ps1
MJG
Smash Hero
Quoted for the truth.
Kaffei
Smash Hero
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I try not to shield whenever Marth is under me and I'm SV's platform cus they PC and grab me and release me into Marth stuff asdflajaldasd ;_;If you're going go SV, watch out for those platform cancels lol, gets me every time
NH Cody
Smash Champion
*suggestion*
Put this in the matchup thread as 50-50
:D
Put this in the matchup thread as 50-50
:D
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
i got 2-0ed by mikehaze ina mm two 1 stocks mikes a pretty chill dude
MJG
Smash Hero
That edge play.
NH Cody
Smash Champion
You had a good lead...then the ending made me sadface
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
should have naired
NH Cody
Smash Champion
Yeah something I forgot to mention for this thread. I'm pretty sure TL nair comes out faster than Marth fsmash. Because I would nair right as I hear him do his fsmash grunt and he would be the one to get damaged. Sooo...keep that in mind.
And KT, by the looks of Jerm's videos, he rolled a few times to get out of trouble situations...so I guess rolling could work vs Marth.
And KT, by the looks of Jerm's videos, he rolled a few times to get out of trouble situations...so I guess rolling could work vs Marth.
~TLK~
Smash Journeyman
ugh i hate this matchup and i especially hate grab releases...
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
i meant when he was getting baired offstage
MJG
Smash Hero
Ive rolled vs marth and snake in bad situations. I am gonna try to limit the amount of times that I have to roll vs them though.
~TLK~
Smash Journeyman
rolling is very situational as it can be very punishable. I wouldn't recommend THAT much rolling against marth because imo it can lead to being highly punished against attacks of marths. especially his fsmash and fair.
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
nair offstage is the est option offstage ever
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
i didnt mean never roll. just meant its not good against marth and snake. they can easily punish u if they react to it.
you are better than marth offstage. take advantage of that. hes easiy gimpable
seems every1 played mikehaze. i played him at mlg colombus in a mm. it was close. last game last hit.
you are better than marth offstage. take advantage of that. hes easiy gimpable
seems every1 played mikehaze. i played him at mlg colombus in a mm. it was close. last game last hit.
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
rolling wit tink is aking to take +15 damage
lik +25 against snakes lol
lik +25 against snakes lol
MJG
Smash Hero
I wish TL's roll was better..but its not like we really need a better roll. TL is in the air for a majority of his matches
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
^
thats exactly why we shouldnt be rolling.
rolling is an AT wit tink. use it wisely
thats exactly why we shouldnt be rolling.
rolling is an AT wit tink. use it wisely
~TLK~
Smash Journeyman
what about when snake does his dgrab?
MJG
Smash Hero
~TLK~
Smash Journeyman
lol thats easier to say then it is to do.
KT Kasrani
Smash Champion
any snake will tell u never roll behind then wit toon link. its a free ftilt. ally told me this
but sometimes u gotta do wat u gotta do. theres no answer for this. jus hope for the best and mix it up
but sometimes u gotta do wat u gotta do. theres no answer for this. jus hope for the best and mix it up
MJG
Smash Hero
Staying still after down throw when you are in kill range is a BAD idea.
Don't get grabbed.
Don't get grabbed.
AllyKnight
Banned via Administration
It's pointless going behind Snake unless the Snake is horrible LOL or if the snake moves forward roll behind but what I'd do is stay on the floor for a bit and get up
~TLK~
Smash Journeyman
i dont like rolling behind snake because typically(especially on wifi)you will eat a fsmash because of Tinks crappy roll.
Azuraith
Smash Apprentice
like MJG said.... dont get grabbed. as a toonlink player we shouldnt be getting grabbed that often, considering were in the air 70+% of the timeXD. also since we camp and spam it makes it harder for them to grab unless they power shield everything which slows down their movements anyway.
regardless! this is the martu MU discussion not snake. so lets talk marth!
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
I played Mike! I took a friendly! ...with 2 dsmash gimps....but I recorded it so it counts. He must be terrible.
Azuraith
Smash Apprentice
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ya lol, thats what i said in my last comment! lets not discuss snake and discuss marth!
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ya lol, thats what i said in my last comment! lets not discuss snake and discuss marth!
NH Cody
Smash Champion
I think we've pretty much covered everything.
I say 50-50
so do Jerm, KT and Jash.
from what I understand.
I say 50-50
so do Jerm, KT and Jash.
from what I understand.
Lobos
Smash Master
wrong thread oops
MJG
Smash Hero
Marth 50:50: Getting back on stage vs Marth is obnoxious. This princ(ess) is not too bad to deal with but (she) he will put up a fight.
Things to keep mind:
Try to not stay in Marth’s tipper range. This is hard since TLs are used to trying to space all their moves. If Marth stops using dancing blade while your shield is up, you can Nair or Grab marth OoS before he can do anything else. This is only the case if he continues to use Dancing Blade after the second slash.
-Zair: Rising zair out ranges everything marth has. Use this move if you feel like you need to reset things during the match.
“Bait marth into making openings for you to attack. Camp the lead since he doesn’t have a projectile. Don’t airdodge too much, and only attack from really close or far rang.e Marth ***** mid range and be careful when you grab. Most of marth’s moveset has no lag, and our grab is slow.”
Stages: FD, SV, PS1. Halberd
Ban: YI, BF, Lylat.
Things to keep mind:
Try to not stay in Marth’s tipper range. This is hard since TLs are used to trying to space all their moves. If Marth stops using dancing blade while your shield is up, you can Nair or Grab marth OoS before he can do anything else. This is only the case if he continues to use Dancing Blade after the second slash.
-Zair: Rising zair out ranges everything marth has. Use this move if you feel like you need to reset things during the match.
“Bait marth into making openings for you to attack. Camp the lead since he doesn’t have a projectile. Don’t airdodge too much, and only attack from really close or far rang.e Marth ***** mid range and be careful when you grab. Most of marth’s moveset has no lag, and our grab is slow.”
Stages: FD, SV, PS1. Halberd
Ban: YI, BF, Lylat.