NH Cody
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Toon Link Matchup Rediscussion: Olimar
Discuss.
I think 55-45 Olimar's favor.
Discuss.
I think 55-45 Olimar's favor.
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Sounds like a texas-olimar problem.just nair to arrow they don't learn and no one taught them how to powershield
he only beats denti though.haha im jk, but i would say jerm knows this matchup too good now so yall should do what he says. i think he says full hop/double jump your bombs. Always be ready to nair to get the pikmin off of you immediatley so that when you have the lead olimar DOES have to approach etc etc
haha im jk, but i would say jerm knows this matchup too good now so yall should do what he says. i think he says full hop/double jump your bombs. Always be ready to nair to get the pikmin off of you immediatley so that when you have the lead olimar DOES have to approach etc etc
Lhe only beats denti though.
I also just beat john. And was 1-1 with zori in our last set, but we didnt finish it.he only beats denti though.
but jon(who only plays wifi) put you into losers as did zori. I'm not trying to be mean or a douch just saying denti sucks against tl i housed him for hobo 28 i know. NOW L_cancel? fuggin **** all of our ****I also just beat john. And was 1-1 with zori in our last set, but we didnt finish it.
Also, I think my way of playing this match up might be wrong lol. So dont take what I say to heart. But I do know some tricks when fighting for fighting olimar, like hyro said, double jump bomb and ibombing allows us to use bombs in this match up. Also, just standing in place and jabbing is a good way to get pikman shii off you.
About full hop nair vs SH nair, I think that they both work. Nair is pretty much your best friend with those ****** *** **** mother****in olimar **** whores =]
Oh dear. lol ~__~but jon(who only plays wifi) put you into losers as did zori. I'm not trying to be mean or a douch just saying denti sucks against tl i housed him for hobo 28 i know. NOW L_cancel? fuggin **** all of our ****
I lost to him in winners, 2-1, then beat him 3-1 in losers.Wait...I thought you lost to Jon at that monsters arcade BS or w/e it was called..?
lol
I was there lol im just trying to make sure we know how to beat olimar the right way. denti doesnt count-I lost to him in winners, 2-1, then beat him 3-1 in losers.
@ ShdwPeeNoob I've always lost to zori, but the last time we played when he put me in losers and I later played him in GFs and learned alot about the match up . We went 1-1(didnt finish). And now I have a pretty positive record against denti. He's only beaten me once while Ive beaten him at least four times. Im not great at the match up, but I think ive learned enough to solidly fight the match up
weroup plays chip, L and dabuz be losin to links (smirk)The olimar's that probably know the MU best would be Fino, L Cancel and Dabuz.
Those would be the people to get input from.
But to touch on what was already said, spacing nair is key. It doesn't matter what little strings you pull together throughout the rest of the match if you do not space your nair.
Space it. SPACE IT!
kthxbai
name one link or toonlink i have lost to besides in friendlies or laggy wifi...go aheadweroup plays chip, L and dabuz be losin to links (smirk)
That was just to get you into the thread now lets hear your thoughts ^_^name one link or toonlink i have lost to besides in friendlies or laggy wifi...go ahead
sidenote though, i haven't fought a good toonlink in about 3 or so months, so i might not be current with the toonlink metagame or mu anymore .-.
your good lolDenti sucksagainst TL
I'll MM you at Dallas for $10TL is so campy, I just can't take it XD
I've only had trouble with jerm's TL btw.
..MM everyone else XD
OH YOU DUN FORGOT ABOUT MY NER TA ERROW HUHtl is so campy, i just can't take it xd
i've only had trouble with jerm's tl btw.
..mm everyone else xd
Hyro wtf XDOH YOU DUN FORGOT ABOUT MY NER TA ERROW HUH
:o
That's fine. I forgot that we actually played at that fail OK tourney where fogo, you and Ice showed up. That wasn't in bracket though. I just remember that you have (had) a temper lol.Sweet! Well I wont have 10$ but lets make it like 5 or something, I'm too broke and can't be betting money I don't have.
wAY TO BRING UP HIS TEMPER THAT HE GOT RID OF (I HOUSED EM I KNOW) YA **** FOR NO REASONThat's fine. I forgot that we actually played at that fail OK tourney where fogo, you and Ice showed up. That wasn't in bracket though. I just remember that you have (had) a temper lol.
Grabbing olimar was my solely my idea.,glad you guys finally decided to listen though lol.Olimar 50:50– Everyone loves olimar -.-. This can be one annoying MU if you don’t know what to do. With Olimar’s pikmin latch, using bombs horizontally is near impossible.
Things to keep in mind:
-Nair: Space this move really well. If it is spaced well, olimar cannot punish you (even if you SH or FH nair).
-Bair: Using bair on olimar usually isn’t the best idea. He can tag you OoS with JC Up Smash and even a regular Up Smash.
-Zair: Don’t try to follow up with this move too much. Use it to give yourself some space.
-Grab: Yes, TL’s useless grab is useful in this MU. A lot of olimars like to just sit in their shield. Grab them, put them in the air and go from there.
-Bombs: As useless as bombs may seem, they will help protect you from olimar when landing; as long as you aren’t predictable.
Kill Moves:
Fair, Uair, Bair (not as stale in this MU), Up smash (this should only be used if you can force an air dodge from an olimar or if you can get a good read).
Once TL is up a stock vs olimar, full hop nairs, spaced zairs and camping from above is probably the best idea. Olimar now has to approach at this point and 9 times out of 10, TL will die from a fresh throw/Smash attack anyways.
Stages: Smashville, Battlefield, Frigate, and Rainbow Cruise.
Ban: Halberd, Delfino, and Yoshi’s Island.
Fun Note: You can down smash purple pikmin off stage since down smash does 11% and purple pikmin have 15 HP (lol).