Using traits and moves from playable characters... I think this moveset is broken.

[BurningCrusader777]

General Build
Weight: Bowser
Size: Olimar (he's the smallest, right? Correct me if I'm wrong; I probably am >_>)
Crouch: Kirby
Crawl: Snake
Running Speed: Sonic
Jumps: Metaknight (includes Glide >_>)
Air Speed: Yoshi
Falling Speed: Metaknight
Glide: Metaknight
Rolls: Pit
Traction: Metaknight
Inherent Ability: Ice Climbers (Dual Model)

Grabs
Grab: Olimar
Pummel: Bowser
Uthrow: Metaknight
Fthrow: DK (Cargo); Uthrow: Metaknight, Fthrow: Ness
Bthrow: Ness
Dthrow: G&W

Ground Moves
Dash Attack: Snake

A: Wolf
AA: Wolf
AAA: Snake
Rapid A: Sheik

Up Tilt: Snake
Forward Tilt: Snake
Down Tilt: ROB

Usmash: Snake
Fsmash: Marth
Down Smash: ROB

Air Moves
Nair: Snake
Uair: Metaknight
Fair: Marth
Bair: G&W
Dair: Ness
Zair: Link
Gair: Metaknight

B Moves
nB: Snake
UpB: Pikachu
SideB: Marth
DownB: ROB

FS - Sonic

QAC > uair > fair > nair. lolololololololol.
Seriously though. Just the fact that this incarnation of brokenness has QAC, MK's jumps/glide, and Yoshi's air movement is insane.

Also, wouldn't it be great if we could hack one of the alloys to have this moveset?

EDIT 1 (June 8?): Just changed some of the Build a bit. I still think Dual Model is the best inherent ability; I was considering Aura, but this thing is already strong enough and I'd rather have over 9000 variations to infinites >_>

EDIT 2 (June 9):
- Dair: Ganondorf --> Ness
- Air Speed: Jigglypuff --> Yoshi
- Bair: ROB --> G&W

 

[Unknownlight]

I'd say it should be R.O.B.'s up B, not pika's.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

I was actually thinking that as well, but QACing into all those good aerials just seemed to good to pass up.

 

[AmigoOne]

Inherent trait should have been tipperism. Or more damage dished out with more damaged gained like lucario.

 

[XACE-K]

Too much Snake in that moveset.

 

[thesultan2112]

i don't get it, what is this? is it like a list of the best uairs dtrhows, etc ?

 

[FEJunkie]

i don't get it, what is this? is it like a list of the best uairs dtrhows, etc ?

I believe hes making a broken char using some of the best traits of some of the characters in the game.

It is pretty broken. Snake's boost smashing, pikachu's QAC, plus metaknight's recovery.....I would not want to fight whatever this thing would be.

Oh and you should probably use samus' zair instead of Link's.

 

[gorgon.]

i don't get it, what is this? is it like a list of the best uairs dtrhows, etc ?

No, it's a compilation of the most broken moves in the game to make the most broken imaginary character. We should give it a name.

BTW, Meta's traction? Isn't that bad?

Too much Snake in that moveset.

Well, Snake is top of top tier...

 

[Vulcan55]

you should use Ness' Dair. it is faster than Ganondorf's and can kill at little to no damage.

 

[gorgon.]

The Ganon Stomp is cooler. I think Ness's Dair is harder to land.

 

[hippochinfat!!]

Wouldn't you want Bowser's weight and a small characters size? Size not affecting range of course.

 

[Zook]

I agree with Hippo.

Also, no Bullet seed?

 

[gorgon.]

Wouldn't you want Bowser's weight and a small characters size? Size not affecting range of course.

Actually, yeah. That.

And doesn't Wario have more air control than Jigglypuff? I think puff can move farther faster, but Wario has better air traction.

 

[Vulcan55]

The Ganon Stomp is cooler. I think Ness's Dair is harder to land.

I would assume that it is only because you probably don't play as him as much, therefore, you don't have practice with it. It is not any harder to land than Ganon's, you just need practice.

 

[IWontGetOverTheDam]

And just who would this moveset belong to?

 

[gorgon.]

I would assume that it is only because you probably don't play as him as much, therefore, you don't have practice with it. It is not any harder to land than Ganon's, you just need practice.

Yeah, you're right. I don't play Ness. But the Stomp is still cooler.

 

[Jimtopia]

I don't even want to think about what a creature like that would look like. o_o

 

[BurningCrusader777]

I agree with Hippo.

Also, no Bullet seed?

The defensive options from using Snake's B, Shielding, then cancelling with QAC was too good to pass up. Bullet Seed is really, really good though.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

I believe hes making a broken char using some of the best traits of some of the characters in the game.

It is pretty broken. Snake's boost smashing, pikachu's QAC, plus metaknight's recovery.....I would not want to fight whatever this thing would be.

Oh and you should probably use samus' zair instead of Link's.

I prefer Link's double hit; with QAC you probably won't need that much extra range from Samus's zair.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

As for MK's traction, it's for optimum Glide Tossing without losing shield grab-ability.

*Pulls a grenade, shields, and Quick Attacks away*

 

[gorgon.]

Whoa, triple post.

I see his weight and size have been fixed: good. I think Olimar is the smallest, if not one of the smallest. But seriously, why Meta's traction?

 

[PCHU]

That CLEARLY isn't the best character.
I could make better.

LANDMASTER!
But....with Sonic's FS.
The PERFECT character to play as.

 

[Frate]

Never played rob, is his Bair better than G&W's? oh lawd, i'm so maining R.O.B then.

 

[Yuna]

Why Pikachu's Up B of all Up Bs in the game? It's not even that good.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

QAC into those aerials.

 

[Vulcan55]

Yeah, you're right. I don't play Ness. But the Stomp is still cooler.

lol, it's not about which is cooler, it's which is more broken

 

[Proverbs]

Ness' upB. Can be used for spamming, bomb exploding on Green Greens,allows for ridiculous recovery length, can tailwhip to gimp recovery, can tailwhip to trap people into PKT2 which can lead to deaths at 40% or lower (I've used PKT2 to kill from zero once, then again, I was near the edge of the screen, but still, the option's out there).


Or if you like, Lucas' PKT and Ness' PKT2 as Lucas' PKT can hit with its head multiple times and Ness' PKT2 is more powerful.


Wait, where's the d-tilt on that moveset? If not in there yet you should have it as either Ness' or Zelda's for trapping ;D

downB should be better, too. If you're looking for a spammable projectile, why not use Diddy's? And how about a reflector or absorber in there? Either Lucas' or Falco's would really do nicely (Unless you want Fox so he can shinespike).

 

[-Linko-]

And just who would this moveset belong to?

Chuck Norris, obviously

No, wait, they have to be two of them, like ICs...
Then it would be Chuck Norris paired with Jackie Chan.

Also, MetaKnight's ^B just beats the crap out of any other ^B.

 

[biohazard930]

Supposedly, Yoshi's air speed (at least horizontally) trumps Jigglypuff's.

 

[Tristan_win]

I'm sorry but Sheik ftilt is more broken then Snakes.

Snake ftilt does have a lot of range and power to it but that doesn't make it necessary broke as it kills around 100%. Like all of Snake moves

While Sheik ftilt can do constant hit combos up into the 50s to 70s on a large selection of the cast and after that it's a great tool to step people up in often inescapably into another attack or smash.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

I'm sorry but Sheik ftilt is more broken then Snakes.

Snake ftilt does have a lot of range and power to it but that doesn't make it necessary broke as it kills around 100%. Like all of Snake moves

While Sheik ftilt can do constant hit combos up into the 50s to 70s on a large selection of the cast and after that it's a great tool to step people up in often inescapably into another attack or smash.

DI away + airdodge. I've seen CPUs do it.



Aside from this, to answer questions before:

I had ROB's dtilt for annoyance. High speed, good range, high trip chance, good damage; Ness's might be better. Not sure on that.

I was considering using Lucas's ^B instead of Pika's, but again... QAC is too good to pass up with those aerials and MK's jumps.

I'm just about convinced, and I'm going to change it to Ness's dair. Sweetspotting won't necessarily matter when you can just spam it anyway >_>

 

[M4jora's M4sk]

Needs, G&W's UAir! That is the singular most broken move in the game. It is unpunishable, kills, stalls everyone but a few (stupidly bad) characters, and does not lose. Also, the side b needs to be the 9 hammer.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

Believe me, if it were 9 all the time, it'd be there

 

[M4jora's M4sk]

How about the UAir? With that many jumps it would kill anyone at 0% because you would always force them off the top of the stage.

 

[Chris Lionheart]

I would think something along the lines of this:

Size- Pichu
Weight- Bowser
Range- Ike
Projectile- Pit
Fall Speed- MK
Glide- MK
Wall Cling- Lucario
Wall Kick- ZSS
Combo ability- ZSS
Chain Grab- D3
Power- Ike
Speed- Sonic's

B- Pit's
Side B- Ike's
Up B- Rob's
Down B- Pika's

A,A,A- Snake's
Dash Attack- Ganon's

F-Tilt- Snake's
Up-Tilt- Snake's
Down-Tilt- I don't know about this one.

F-Smash- Wolf's or Lucas's
Up-Smash- Ike's (debate-able)
Down-Smash- Pikachu's

Nair- GaW or Lucas's (this is debate-able)
Fair- Melee Sheik's
Bair- Ike's
Uair- Wario's (I think)
Dair- Ganon's

Throws-
Up- ?
Forward- ?
Back- ?
Down- D3's

Now thats broken

 

[Geist]

I would think something along the lines of this:

Size- Pichu
Weight- Bowser
Range- Ike
Projectile- Pit
Fall Speed- MK
Glide- MK
Wall Cling- Lucario
Wall Kick- ZSS
Combo ability- ZSS
Chain Grab- D3
Power- Ike
Speed- Sonic's

B- Pit's
Side B- Ike's
Up B- Rob's
Down B- Pika's

A,A,A- Snake's
Dash Attack- Ganon's

F-Tilt- Snake's
Up-Tilt- Snake's
Down-Tilt- I don't know about this one.

F-Smash- Wolf's or Lucas's
Up-Smash- Ike's (debate-able)
Down-Smash- Pikachu's

Nair- GaW or Lucas's (this is debate-able)
Fair- Melee Sheik's
Bair- Ike's
Uair- Wario's (I think)
Dair- Ganon's

Putting in moves from melee isn't fair >_<
you might as well just have a marth-shiek-fox-falco melee hybrid.

on that note:
- GaW's Bair no matter what. I've never seen a move break through shields so efficiently.
- Diddy's dash is much better than ganon's 0_0"
- Rob's Usmash has around the same hitbox as lucas's, only a hundred times faster

 

[dancingfrogman]

Wouldn't you want ROBs up-b and the jumps of jigglypuff, and the most spammable projectile for standard b (like pikachus).

 

[aznegglover]

Wait.. what's QAC and Gair? o_______0

 

[Yuna]

Putting in moves from melee isn't fair >_<
you might as well just have a marth-shiek-fox-falco melee hybrid.

Me and a friend actually did that a few years back as a joke.

The hybrid consisted of Fox, Falco, Sheik, Marth and Peach and was named MaPeSheiFaFox. Among other things to wield, it'd have Sheik's Fair, Falco's Dair, Fox's Shine and Peach's Dsmash.

 

[gorgon.]

lol, it's not about which is cooler, it's which is more broken

Yes, I realize that. But I'm quite sure Ganon's Dair was confirmed to be the strongest spike in the game anyway, despite being slower than Ness's. So the question is, strongest spike, or a slightly faster, less powerful spike?