VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[The Irish Mafia]

into what off a tech chase? grab? great, an extra 7%, and messing up the bair ends whatever you had

 

[DoH]

Depends on the character. Up throw cam get them above you for an uair barrage, fthrow or bthrow can get them off stage for a gimp or edgeguard, dthrow can set up for a nair/up smash or dash attack off the stage

Or you can weak bair to pivot dtilt or something if they try and cc and grab or something

 

[exarch]

Pft if they CC I'm hoping I'm dsmashing.

Spoiler

although many people stop holding down once the washing machine starts on them. but a lot of people don't. fools.

Vanz I'm really impressed by the recent stuff I've seen from you. GJ, don't let your head get too big.

*waves and disappears from the peach boards again*

 

[bladeofapollo]

Or you can weak bair to pivot dtilt or something if they try and cc and grab or something

This sounds like it would be awesome, though technically unreliable (as in I'd mess it up a lot). I like weak Bair->grab at low percents and weak Bair->Dash at higher

 

[Rosedemon]

Its so nice watching new vids of players like DoH, cuz you can see how well hes improved, but also that old DoH style.

 

[TheGeneral]

i'm just trying to grab more now and i'm finally hitting that tech in tech chase. i don't like using dsmash to tech chase because it feels like. . . lazy, like i could be doing something better
all of peaches moves fall between kill move and combo move and that really limits move choice off a tech chase

If you can downsmash someone, you almost always should. It single handedly can do more damage than most of peach's other moves comboed together anyway. Of course this depends on where they are on the stage because you always want to put people off of the stage but when it comes to just getting damage, just d-smash. You have to remember that people absolutely hate getting hit by it and you're probably going to make them do something stupid if you hit them with the move again.

Mind games.

 

[DoH]

If you can dtilt a character like Sheik/Fox/Falco/Falcon I'd rather do that than down smash, because you can follow up to get even more. At low percents downsmash is good, but at higher percents when it can kill or set up for an edgeguard, upsmash, nair or uair is pretty much always a better option

And Alan, what do you mean by DoH style? Crazy crackhead offensive Peach? lawl

 

[TheGeneral]

I forgot about d-tilt. You're right about that.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

at zero dsmash is a great idea, but afterwards you want to continue to apply pressure and dsmash will pretty much reset the spacing.
seeing as we're discussing tech chasing let's say we're tech chasing a space animal at 45% on DL64. Why dsmash/weak bair there?

dtilt's a good move in that situation. more or less uthrow but better. i can't help but think there's a better option.


Any peaches wanna do $2 mms at apex? General, Sage, DoH, Apollo?

 

[lloDownedu74]

Hai people ^_^ It has been way too long since I lurked the Melee Peach boards.

Anyways, am I allowed to post a new vid of me in here (one of my only vids lol). I would post in like the video discussion thing, but no one has bumped that since January...

If so... my brother got a new recording system thing, so we tested it out yesterday with a few sets. Here's me vs. Smash God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc68lNIy__k

Any comments/suggestions? I've been playing Brawl a ton, so my Melee Peach kinda sucks now xD I use wayyyyy too many FC bairs

 

[TheGeneral]

Lolowned, what part of Virginia are you in? I'll be moving back to Roanoke in a week (thinking of visiting nova as well)

Irish Mafia, I'm not going to APEX but I'll mm at rom3 or pound 5 if we're both at either of those.

 

[lloDownedu74]

llod* :D For the record, anyone can refer to me as llod. It's easier than lloDownedu, which is a pain to type

And I'm in Northern VA, McLean to be exact. If you come here, maybe we should meet

 

[The Irish Mafia]

rom3 it is

 

[TheGeneral]

llod* :D For the record, anyone can refer to me as llod. It's easier than lloDownedu, which is a pain to type

And I'm in Northern VA, McLean to be exact. If you come here, maybe we should meet

Hmm, I'll see what I can do. I'd like to go to richmond and see, Doll, Cyrain, Tope and Sage and people. This is all contingent on my getting a ride from someone, lol.

 

[rpgfighter]

What are the stages I should try to play on when I am Peach?

And

What are the stages I need to try to band when I play Peach?

 

[Jartravious]

What are the stages I should try to play on when I am Peach?

And

What are the stages I need to try to band when I play Peach?

It depends on what stages you are comfortable with, what stages complement your play style, and of course what character you are playing.

I would go ahead and say every neutral stage is decent for Peach and that your play style determines which ones you like more in certain match ups.

As for stages to ban it also depends on who you are against, but some common trends are to ban Pokemon Stadium vs Fox and Falco, YS vs marth, but its really up to how you play and the player you are against.

 

[Rain(ame)]

I go away for a weekend, and the boards just move on ahead. >_>

I'd so rather ban Battlefield against Marth.

On a side note: I think that ICz are one of my new favorite teammates.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

every neutral except yoshis and pokemon peach is great on. even on those two she's pretty good.

 

[lloDownedu74]

I prefer BF over YS for Marth =/
Dreamland is my best neutral, And I actually kinda like FD against Fox. Even though he can waveshine across the stage, it gives Peach a lot of combo room

 

[DoH]

Fd is her best neutral. Platforms give people options

 

[KirbyKaze]

I.B keeps making me play Peach against his Marth.

How do I beat Marth?

 

[Queen]

Pick Sheik.

 

[DoH]

Get inside of him with turnips and fight with grabs

Also watch Armada bull**** and learn how to space with fsmash/dtilt

 

[thesage]

I won't be at apex. Will be at pound 5 though. General come up to richmond and I can house you. I can't give you a ride to nova, but there's a train station and greyhound that are easily accessible from my place.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

v marth is pretty much turnips, fc fairs, dash attacks, and shield stab dsmashes

also vanz for the useful peach info section of the OP you should add in Cort's CG/uthrow dsmash guide, that's saved me many times v spacies

 

[KirbyKaze]

U-throw D-smash might be her best combo.

 

[MacD]

idk kk, i'm still very partial of

dsmash > dsmash (and if your lucky) > dsmash

or

dash attack > dash attack > dash attack > dash attack

 

[KirbyKaze]

U-throw D-smash combos into D-smash --> D-smash

 

[BladeWise]

Marth's shield is mediocre and very easy to poke with Dsmash.

 

[Calzum!]

I prefer BF over YS for Marth =/
Dreamland is my best neutral, And I actually kinda like FD against Fox. Even though he can waveshine across the stage, it gives Peach a lot of combo room

read my mind lol

 

[bladeofapollo]

Fd is her best neutral. Platforms give people options

Despite how much I dislike the stage, this is absolutely true. Turnips are harder to dodge w/o platforms and Peach is a master of space control. If anybody wants to get near Peach, they have to commit to her bubble (the space she controls) and you'll see approaches coming soon enough to react.

Also, I'm not going to APEX. I wish I could because it sounds awesome, but I needed money. However I'll be at Pound5, whenever that is. I don't miss Pound

 

[TheGeneral]

I won't be at apex. Will be at pound 5 though. General come up to richmond and I can house you. I can't give you a ride to nova, but there's a train station and greyhound that are easily accessible from my place.

Nice. I'll look into the greyhound schedule or the train.

Also, agree with everyone saying that fd is great becasuse IT IS.
If anyone has any q's about chain grabbing fat-*** fallers, I can help.

Lol, I just realized how to get jump throw turnip into nair to combo more consistently the other day. I'm sure most of you already know this but whatever. Hold forward, then jump and press a immediately. Finally nair your opponent just after they get turnipped. I was always killing my forward momentum by smashing the stick as I threw the turnip then returning to neutral.

 

[Silly Kyle]

Hey guys!! I'm really excited for my Peach in Melee!!

I just recently placed 4th out of 19.

1) Forward
2) AXE
3) GamerGuitarist7
4) Silly Kyle

I have some new videos with more being uploaded soon. I'm very happy with my progress... I almost took out AXE in the loser's semis!! OMG so close and intense. Can't wait for that set to be uploaded.

People in AZ like to main low tiers lol (coupled with their high tier mains)

Commentary by TAJ

Silly Kyle vs. Vect0rman
Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NW7-w9bYxs
Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh6tyn4zo2w&feature=related

Silly Kyle vs. AXE
Match 1.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IKPtwi7CUs
Match 1.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSR0KySToyM&feature=related

Silly Kyle vs. Okami :shiek:
Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfQR2rwDCSU
Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W37TZ6uPDD8

This is it for now. Hope to post more soon! ^_^

 

[Rosedemon]

If you can dtilt a character like Sheik/Fox/Falco/Falcon I'd rather do that than down smash, because you can follow up to get even more. At low percents downsmash is good, but at higher percents when it can kill or set up for an edgeguard, upsmash, nair or uair is pretty much always a better option

And Alan, what do you mean by DoH style? Crazy crackhead offensive Peach? lawl

Famous words of FLT. Thats exactly what i meant. I can still see your overall style in your new vids, like I could in your old ones (LOLFORWARDSMASH amazingness). Its really inspiring when you see how peach players evolved over the years (mainly you and MikeG).

 

[Rain(ame)]

Wow...I feel silly. Shoutouts to Chivalruse for being a beast teams partner with ICz. We need to do that again, bro.

On topic:
I will prefer YS over BF any day. I just don't like BF, and it doesn't seem to like me. *shrugs* It is all about where you're more comfortable.

 

[DoH]

Mafia I will take yo money

Also money match wobbles haha

 

[ChivalRuse]

So how likely is it that Wobbles will make it to Apex after all?

 

[WickedDeceit]

Hey guys!! I'm really excited for my Peach in Melee!!

I just recently placed 4th out of 19.

1) Forward
2) AXE
3) GamerGuitarist7
4) Silly Kyle

I have some new videos with more being uploaded soon. I'm very happy with my progress... I almost took out AXE in the loser's semis!! OMG so close and intense. Can't wait for that set to be uploaded.

People in AZ like to main low tiers lol (coupled with their high tier mains)

Commentary by TAJ

Silly Kyle vs. Vect0rman
Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NW7-w9bYxs
Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh6tyn4zo2w&feature=related

Silly Kyle vs. AXE
Match 1.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IKPtwi7CUs
Match 1.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSR0KySToyM&feature=related

Silly Kyle vs. Okami :shiek:
Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfQR2rwDCSU
Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W37TZ6uPDD8

This is it for now. Hope to post more soon! ^_^

Wow Silly Kyle I really like your Peach!!

 

[shounenkel]

Vanz, I hope you do really wall at Apex...
and to all the peach players thank you, if it wasn't for this thread and all cool stuff here i would still be lost e with some matchup's... Good **** i dont get to play melee as much as i want to, >.<


Wf's Samus shes a ***** at time, but i think i played PRETTY Gud, what you guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxRCMpveOQ&playnext=1&videos=N1nBhDxS0PA&feature=sub

 

[KirbyKaze]

I was very impressed with Silly Kyle's first 2 minutes or so against Axe's Pika. You handled him really well for a while. It is a shame that Axe adapts and you became less safe as the game went on :[