leafgreen386
Dirty camper
I do SHs with the control stick for AC aerials that have strict timing. It's a lot easier than in melee to SH with the control stick, so if you use tap jump, you should give it a try.
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We are destined to meet in battle! - Wolf+
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JCaesar
Smash Hero
Ew tap jump
stingers
Smash Obsessed
SH with control stick?
jesus christ no thanks
jesus christ no thanks
stingers
Smash Obsessed
have some more wolf vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKD8num16sw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEiBjZHdfAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7T-ozR_LLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7uSBGuIoZw
against falco400
lolwifi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKD8num16sw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEiBjZHdfAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7T-ozR_LLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7uSBGuIoZw
against falco400
lolwifi
everlasting yayuhzz
Smash Champion
stingers
Smash Obsessed
what are you doing here
LOL wolf is so fun
LOL wolf is so fun
Revven
FrankerZ
Wolf is pretty amazing right now, I've been using him since vBrawl and I can definitely tell that he's improved a lot. As far as I'm concerned, he's where he belongs right now, especially looking at tourney results in other regions for + (MD/VA, Montreal..). Makes me smile because I hated how he had to play in vBrawl in order to do good. He no longer has to play that way. <3
CountKaiser
Smash Lord
Does anyone else think wolf's nair is crazy?
Or that Wolf in general is crazy?
Also, sometimes, when he connects with Up-B, the opponent won't be carried to the final hit.
Or that Wolf in general is crazy?
Also, sometimes, when he connects with Up-B, the opponent won't be carried to the final hit.
Thunderhorse+
Smash Ace
I hear from reliable sources that Wolf is broken.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
wolf is mad good...top 5 imooooooo
CountKaiser
Smash Lord
Who are these reliable sources?I hear from reliable sources that Wolf is broken.
Wolf's issue in vBrawl was that he had the perfect physics to be hit by everything gay in the game.
Like every CG worked on Wolf, and he could be infinited in some cases like DDD's infinite at the ledge. He was without a doubt the worst good character.
Fix everything gay, and he can shine like the space animal he is. B+ gave him the environment spacies need to thrive, and then fixed some of his flawed moves. Apparently too well :V
Like every CG worked on Wolf, and he could be infinited in some cases like DDD's infinite at the ledge. He was without a doubt the worst good character.
Fix everything gay, and he can shine like the space animal he is. B+ gave him the environment spacies need to thrive, and then fixed some of his flawed moves. Apparently too well :V
Methinks JCaesar. His post in the Diddy thread points to it at least.
RPGsFTW
Smash Ace
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I think Wolf is good, and I play him a bunch too, however I HATE watching a lot of people play him because they just Fsmash and Dsmash.
You gotta be smart with the **** space animal, and spamming Fsmash and Dsmash like it's vBrawl won't get you anywhere. And if you ever win by spamming Fsmash/Dmash, I am very disappointed in you.
<3 My Wolf.
Also, I think fighting Fox is hard for Wolf...
You gotta be smart with the **** space animal, and spamming Fsmash and Dsmash like it's vBrawl won't get you anywhere. And if you ever win by spamming Fsmash/Dmash, I am very disappointed in you.
<3 My Wolf.
Also, I think fighting Fox is hard for Wolf...
Wavedash Master
Smash Journeyman
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Really? I'm thinking more back air spam than anything else. But spamming doesn't win you a match unless your opponent can't figure it out.
RPGsFTW
Smash Ace
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Not necessarily even spam, but a lot of people use Fsmash whenever there is distance between them and their opponent. That and they attempt Dsmash after every Nair, no matter how many times it misses. >_>
Personally, I think Wolf can be better used juggling and spacing Nairs efficiently to land grabs/Usmashes.
CountKaiser
Smash Lord
What can wolf follow up with after a nair?
WheelOfFish
Smash Journeyman
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Nothing is that stupid about Wolf except maybe his n-air.
But honestly, can you call him too good in comparison to Fox or Falco? XD
But honestly, can you call him too good in comparison to Fox or Falco? XD
CountKaiser
Smash Lord
=/
How is he significantly better?
How is he significantly better?
leafgreen386
Dirty camper
Wolf's nair and upB should be fixed in the next patch, just fyi. Nair is gonna be easier to get out of and require better reaction/prediction from the wolf player to actually follow up, and upB won't... you know, glitch.
As for what wolf can follow up with after nair... it depends on how many hits of nair connected, whether the foe is a floaty or a ff'er, and if they SDI or not, but he can potentially get just about any one of his A moves depending on where they end up afterward. The most useful ones are probably dsmash, usmash, uair, fair, jab, grab, or another nair. I think dair is about the only A button move he has that isn't ever be able to combo from a nair.
Also, there's no way wolf is that much better than fox and falco. I'd definitely place fox above wolf, and falco probably about on the same level as wolf.
As for what wolf can follow up with after nair... it depends on how many hits of nair connected, whether the foe is a floaty or a ff'er, and if they SDI or not, but he can potentially get just about any one of his A moves depending on where they end up afterward. The most useful ones are probably dsmash, usmash, uair, fair, jab, grab, or another nair. I think dair is about the only A button move he has that isn't ever be able to combo from a nair.
Also, there's no way wolf is that much better than fox and falco. I'd definitely place fox above wolf, and falco probably about on the same level as wolf.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I cringe every time someone says Wolf's fsmash is too good. Seriously, fsmash? 
I'm not sure top 5 but definitely top 10.
^_^
His bair is a much more staple move for him imo. Nair can be baited and punished, but very few characters have an answer for bair WoPing.
Maybe so but Wolf is waaaay more fun to play because he doesn't have to camp and run away to win.
ThatGuy
Smash Master
KingKong vs Joel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO2E3OZnhJ0
Joel vs Holy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOANdTKiq1g
Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO2E3OZnhJ0
Joel vs Holy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOANdTKiq1g
Thoughts?
RPGsFTW
Smash Ace
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leafgreen386
Dirty camper
ThatGuy: I like your wolf. I wish I could say something about the rob match, but I don't really know how to fight rob myself. lol
RPGsFTW: I was very disappointed by the lack of bair in this match. It's such a good move for spacing, racking up damage, and killing, all while being safe on block. Not saying you should spam it or anything, but you should try using it more.
Hm... I wanna get some vids up of my wolf. I don't have anything recent that isn't online, though, and lolwifi. I'll have to fix that!
RPGsFTW: I was very disappointed by the lack of bair in this match. It's such a good move for spacing, racking up damage, and killing, all while being safe on block. Not saying you should spam it or anything, but you should try using it more.
Hm... I wanna get some vids up of my wolf. I don't have anything recent that isn't online, though, and lolwifi. I'll have to fix that!
ThatGuy
Smash Master
I apologize for my abysmal performance against Holy, and rest assured the rest of the set did not go so pleasantly for me either .
Hopefully next time I can be on my game.
.Hopefully next time I can be on my game.
RPGsFTW
Smash Ace
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Too bad I don't have any other matches of my Wolf at the moment. I do use Bair a lot, but I don't only use it like some people tend to do. I like having a meteor, so I Dair a bunch, sometimes, haha. Dthrow -> turn around -> wait (I could get a smash or grab depending on how they roll) -> Bair (if they didn't roll towards me).
Zen Yore
Smash Ace
fair = SPACIAL CLAW
too good
bump
too good
bump
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
I don't camp period in regular brawl. Wolf is played relatively the same in brawl+ as in regular brawl. He is probably top 5 maybe top 10. I don't check brawl+ much. I just use Wolf regardless of game. His fsmash has plenty of lag time after. But it combos same way in regular brawl with his bair for the most part. Wolf's nair is probably the only big difference in brawl+. In regular brawl it also true combos, but it is harder to land the nair right to auto combo. In brawl+ it true combos everytime.I cringe every time someone says Wolf's fsmash is too good. Seriously, fsmash?
I'm not sure top 5 but definitely top 10.
^_^
His bair is a much more staple move for him imo. Nair can be baited and punished, but very few characters have an answer for bair WoPing.
Maybe so but Wolf is waaaay more fun to play because he doesn't have to camp and run away to win.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
Well guys. lets talk about how your supposed to fight captain falcon. I only lost to that character and freakin verils jiggs at pound.
so...
so...
goodoldganon
Smash Champion
Wolf's a fast faller so Falcon will be able to use the full extent of his combo game on Wolf. From my play time with Wolf I don't think he really has any major new combos against FF characters so on that end Falcon has the advantage. When I fight my friends Falcon as Wolf I stick to B-air WoP and B-reversaled Blaster shots to make a wall.
When Falcon gets the opening I start to spam Down-b. 9 times out of 10 Falcon's combos will fall just frames short of being a true combo and you can stop him with the Down-b.
Other then that I don't really know. B-air WoP might be boring but it's my best bet against Falcon
When Falcon gets the opening I start to spam Down-b. 9 times out of 10 Falcon's combos will fall just frames short of being a true combo and you can stop him with the Down-b.
Other then that I don't really know. B-air WoP might be boring but it's my best bet against Falcon
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
well i often try to bust out some Down B. but its like, im full of hitstun. i Di, but its like, captain falcon has so many options that no matter with way i go hes gonna hit me anyway.
I'm not sure what I can add, but facing my friend's CF, I'd wait for an opening with Bair/Blaster camping and then Uair juggle him when I get one (out of Usmash most likely). Stage-wise, I'd probably avoid wide, open areas like FD since Falcon would have a lot of room to move around and stick to platform stages like BF/WW (and maybe YI:B).
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Well I beat G-Reg's Falcon in tourney with Wolf by a decent margin so I feel that Wolf has the advantage (granted it was 5.0 though and both characters have changed a fair amount since then). Wolf is really difficult to combo due to shine (watch for up-B though), while Falcon can be uaired all day (uthrow is a good low-mid % setup). Falcon has trouble with the bair WoP too.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
yeah 6.0 falcon just... ***** me.
yummynbeefy
Smash Champion
6.0 falcon is pretty easy imho bair and f-smash outrange him and blaster ***** for zoning as well its kinda like the falco v falcon mu in melee maybe harder than that for falcon
id say jiggs is one of wolfs harder matchups or maybe im not playing it right :/ wat to do vs jiggs
id say jiggs is one of wolfs harder matchups or maybe im not playing it right :/ wat to do vs jiggs
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Blaster is meh. I barely touch it except to steal 2nd jumps and intercept predictable recoveries. It's just too slow to really spam, and Wolf's WoP is so much better.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
I use up b a lot against jiggs. if you can knock her up it can kill her fairly low.
yummynbeefy
Smash Champion
ive heard d-throw is the throw to use against jiggs