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What are your thoughts about Christmas?

Chis

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Some food for thought...

Why celebrate Christmas if you're not a christian? Surely Christmas is the celebration of Jesus' birth and not about a fat man with a great white beard. You can't interpret Christmas differently. That is what it is. Rather now it's it's commercialised and disfigured. Santa, traditional foods, the giving of presents and all the rest of the rubbish. It's being used, just like Easter, to make money. Or is it rather tradition?

What do you think Christmas is about?

How will you enjoy Christmas?

Ect, ect

Discuss//
 

Blackadder

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Actually you CAN re-interpret it as you please. And by the looks of things, most have.
Not that that's a bad thing ALL round -- some people use it to really show their love for other people, which is cool. That and presents.

Dunno what Christmas means to me. Not much, I guess. I just sort of... hang around.
 

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I'm Roman Catholic, so to me Christmas is definitely about the birth of Christ. My family spends Christmas Eve at Vigil Mass and attend morning mass on Christmas day. Then we spend the rest of the day at home together. We do give presents and the like but we realise that ultimately that's insignificant to the meaning of Christmas.

It is undeniable, that within the societies we live in, Christmas has been commercialised unbelievably. It does detract from what the event is actually about. However, I do see some of the benefits it brings. Looking over the materialistic infatuation, the Christmas image within the public promotes a sense of family togetherness. Sadly though some of these pressures on families can have a negative effect, with certain parents feeling incapable of meeting the expectations they believe their children will have.
 

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It's funny that people associate Christmas with Jesus' birth when he was born in September. Mithra, a pagan god, was born on December 25th, and the god was so popular that Christians adopted the date for Jesus' birth to make assimilation easier.

I stopped caring about Christmas when I could afford to buy my own stuff whenever I wanted.
 

Dibs

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Man... If I was born in September and my birthday got celebrated 3 months later, I'd be pissed.
 

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I heard that the date of the celebration was changed during the time of the roman empire so that Christianity would clash less with roman culture and gain more acceptance. Priests had trouble getting people to stop celebrating on December 25, so they changed the meaning of the holiday. It made it easier for the Romans to be Christian. I never heard that good ole JC was born in September, but CK is right about the assimilation thing, although I don't think it changes anything. It IS the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, and the day always carries with it an obvious feeling of holiness. I think the day was sanctified by God when the change was made.

The date is irrelevant. God doesn't perceive time the way we do (because he's immortal and omnipotent), and so to it really doesn't matter.
 

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It's funny that people associate Christmas with Jesus' birth when he was born in September. Mithra, a pagan god, was born on December 25th, and the god was so popular that Christians adopted the date for Jesus' birth to make assimilation easier.

I stopped caring about Christmas when I could afford to buy my own stuff whenever I wanted.
There are a lot of weird things like that. For example:

The whole reason that St. Mary was considered a deity is because way back when pagans had female gods too, not just male ones. So the Roman church made Mary a deity to attract more (female) pagan converts.


EDIT: OT. Christmas to me is all about hanging out with people I care about. Jesus' birth is there, just somewhere in the back-ground.
 

Crimson King

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I heard that the date of the celebration was changed during the time of the roman empire so that Christianity would clash less with roman culture and gain more acceptance. Priests had trouble getting people to stop celebrating on December 25, so they changed the meaning of the holiday. It made it easier for the Romans to be Christian. I never heard that good ole JC was born in September, but CK is right about the assimilation thing, although I don't think it changes anything. It IS the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, and the day always carries with it an obvious feeling of holiness. I think the day was sanctified by God when the change was made.

The date is irrelevant. God doesn't perceive time the way we do (because he's immortal and omnipotent), and so to it really doesn't matter.
Historians used the placement of the North Star, and the fact that Jesus was born in a manger in Bethlehem as proof it couldn't have been in December. Bethlehem was supposed to have been too cold, and a baby born outdoors would have died.
 

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Jesus was probably born in August anyway.
EDIT: CK I just saw you post.
 

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Well, I know that it celebrates the birth of Christ, but like the others said he wasn't born then. I still celebrate it because...well...its the celebration of his birth.

I plan to spend time with my family, eat food with them, as well as cherish the gifts that I give or receive. Its(to me) about giving to others as others to you, I'm a kid so that's what I think.
 

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So what if people are celebrating it not for the birth of christ. It's still a holliday when all of your family can come together and have a good time. you're saying people shouldn't do that if they aren't completely pious?
 

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Historians used the placement of the North Star, and the fact that Jesus was born in a manger in Bethlehem as proof it couldn't have been in December. Bethlehem was supposed to have been too cold, and a baby born outdoors would have died.
Not to mention the shepherds wouldn't have had their sheep outside, in that weather.

Christmas is one of the biggest retail scams ever. I work in the HQ for a clothing store. And we made $5 million more on black Friday than we usually make. Expect Christmas to be the same.
 

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Wait I thought everyone knew Jesus wasn't born in December?:confused: Christianity just uses this time of year to celebrate it.
 

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Christmas is just a really good time to be with the family like it is on thanksgiving. presents are a plus cause its just a surprise. but honestly its about the family thing
 

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YEAH! Giving presents to other people is stupid, why give?!? Just think of yourself, life is all about you, screw everyone else!!!!
 

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Through out the past few years, I have lost interest in Christmas...sure our family gets the Christmas tree and opens presents, but as I've got older I've progressively gotten less interested in it. Maybe it's because there isn't anything to celebrate for me, it's just a time where I get a new book or maybe a game, and then watch little kids open presents. (Which annoys me so much...I seriously can't stand kids older then 2, and younger then 16, except more for mature people)

My birthday's 4 days before Christmas too, and I usually get everything for my birthday and nothing for Christmas...so yeah.

In short, I don't like it, but actually enjoy people's enthusiasm towards it. (Like our santa hat avatars)
 

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Everyone just complains about Xymas..

Spend a load of money on **** for other people to get them stuff they don't even need just because you have to because they are for you. Shopping for all of it, getting the dinner ready all freakin day to sit with a bunch of people you don't really feel like talking to at the time and decorating and just BS

yeah, I don't mind it though. It's just sleeping time, but nobody knows what I'm talking about when I call it that :D
 

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yes i'm Catholic, and it seems the media has disguised the true meaning of Christmas behind gifts, food, and such
though it still has meaning to my family and i, and i have no problem about it right now
its a great time of year, very happy, and fantastic
 

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TBH, i don't celebrate christmas. (everyone around me thinks they do)
i gave up on christmas long ago.

but i do like how everyone gets time to smash during winter break... lol
 

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I just celebrate Christmas for Jesus birth, and is one of those days that I can see all my family together. But something I dont like is when people think that the meaning of Christmas is when Santa brings presents to everybody, that just annoys me.
 

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Christmas is a great time .. for people who would usually screw people over to act fake and seem nice.

But Christmas is really about Jesus' birth ...

Duh.
 

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which is why you santa hatted your avatar?
lol. Too good.

I come from a chinese background, and we don't really celebrate Christmas. My dad's girlfriend is christian so we have a tree and stuff set up. Otherwise, we don't really give away presents or anything either. As well, my family spends time together cause it's winter break, lmfao. But I guess the winter break is there because of christmas >_>
 

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I just enjoy the Winter-Break, lost interest in Christmas three years ago when I learned Santa doesn't really *shot*.
 

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I'm not a particularly spiritual man, but I do understand and respect the need for religion in a healthy, prosperous society

Christmas probably started like many holidays, in this case: as common pagan celebration of the winter solstice. Christianity comes along and seeks to spread the word of God/Jesus/Whoever. so the missionaries essentially tell the pagans they preach: "You can still celebrate your festivals, but we would be honored if you celebrated in the name of Christ." And thus the winter solstice festival becomes they day Jesus's birth is celebrated.

many of our common holidays got their start like that. Pagan celebrations adapted for the word of God.


I will not deny that this season is steeped in commercialism. It's not all bad, as long as we don't get carried away with it.

If you enjoy the commercialism of Christmas and can afford it, by all means go and spend! In this economy, one of the best gifts you can give is the gift of business for a small store that needs it. There is nothing inherently wrong with the commercialization of Christmas as long as it doesn't get out of hand. Many businesses need this season.

Its up to the consumers to not loose track of where it all the hype comes from. At a local church I attend occasionally, the most heavily attended period in the entire year is during the Christmas --or advent, as they say-- season.
Its a delicate balance, between a religion and the economy, Christian philosophy would suggest that we honor both: honor the day set aside to celebrate the birth of the Messiah, and honor the local business that it may continue to employ good people.

anyways, that's my two cents on the whole Christmas thing.
 

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doesn't it bother you that a lot of people only remember they're "christian" when it's time to celebrate?
idk...
 

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I just celebrate Christmas for Jesus birth, and is one of those days that I can see all my family together. But something I dont like is when people think that the meaning of Christmas is when Santa brings presents to everybody, that just annoys me.
but at least they do remember that they are christian.

Whether or not you attend a church doesn't make you any more or less of a christian,
What matters is whether or not the church attends you as you live your life.
yeah. i'm not anti christmas or anything.
i just think it's an excuse to celebrate. idk.
i'm dumb. lol
 

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My favorite part about Christmas is going to church and being with family. It's about realizing the good things that I've been blessed with in life despite anything bad that may have happened. It's a great time to be with friends and family. We do give gifts to some extent but that aspect has faded alot because the stress of buying gifts and spending alot of money is ridiculous.

I also like Christmas time because besides getting ready for family things tend to wind down such as school, work and to some degree the demands people have on you from Dec 25-30. During this timespan I have a chance to get caught up on things like chores, family, friends, sleep and then begin the New Year with a shot to become a better person.
 

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It is all about the presents, and watching MST3K. That is how I celebrate Christmas.
I live far away from most of my family in America so it is different. While everyone is back home during Christmas I am somewhere else in the world. I have only seen snow once.
 

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I don't give a **** about christmas. I do like the excuse of getting days off and getting money:).
 

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How did I not find this thread earlier?

Oh yeah, I remember when I found out that Christ wasn't born in December. I actually learned this from watching Boondocks. Best show evah.

Anyway, Christmas... I was thinking the other day, why do some parents teach their kids to believe in Santa Claus? For Christian parents, I can understand not attempting to teach really young kids about Jesus, because chances are they probably wouldn't understand everything completely. But why not wait until they're older and then give them Christian teachings? I guess it's not hurting anyone for the most part, but I just don't see the point. When I was a young'un I believed in the guy too, but now that I'm older I wonder why my parents went through the trouble in the first place. It seems that parents teach that Santa Claus is some kindly person that fosters togetherness and gives gifts to people across the world. But the same can be said for Jesus-- a loving person who preaches the importance of loving thy neighbor; and He also gives gifts to our world, just not only material ones. It just seems like Santa's unnecessary in the whole equation.

But admittedly I can't resist a good Santa Hat. I have like 3 in my room at home.
 

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I'm not a Christian.

However, every December 25th, I do enjoy giving and receiving gifts wrapped in brightly colored paper and cavorting about a beautiful, plastic tree covered in lights and ornaments.

Jesus doesn't poke his nose into it. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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I'm not a Christian.

However, every December 25th, I do enjoy giving and receiving gifts wrapped in brightly colored paper and cavorting about a beautiful, plastic tree covered in lights and ornaments.

Jesus doesn't poke his nose into it. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
LOLOLOL too honest to ridicule you. haha
 
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