Alex Strife
Smash Hero
Blur where did you get all this info. It makes absolutely no sense. Almost, if not, all the things you said are beyond not true.
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If you want to know why people hate Brawl, thats why. I didn't say I agree or disagree with it, but thats the reasoning. And yes, tons and tons of people think that way, justly or unjustly.Blur where did you get all this info. It makes absolutely no sense. Almost, if not, all the things you said are beyond not true.
^^^People always find reasons to segregate each other. Whether it is money, race, creed, or something as silly as a competitive game vs another. This is human nature to want a feeling of superiority.
I didn't say Melee kids hate Brawl because they feel that they aren't included in their tournaments. I said that they feel Brawl is parasitic, and that its presence hinders, and does not aid, in the Melee community's growth. Because of this, one thing Brawl TOs can do to change these perceptions is to hold Brawl+Melee tournaments.Honestly, I don't think there's any principle reasoning for people hating Brawl; that is to say, I doubt there's anything close to a consensus as to why Melee players hate Brawl. If there is, I doubt it has anything to do with wanting to feel "superior," or anything about not being included in their tournaments, and has more to do with, you know, the fact that some people just don't like the game-play and feel like voicing their opinion on it.
Mhm.Simply put, Melee players that dislike Brawl largely hate it because many Melee players feel that Brawl 'killed' the Melee scene. That Brawl took away Melee players and are continuing to take away potential people that want to play the game.
Well back in 2005-2006 and stuff, I don't believe there were a lot of hate going on... everyone was happy and everything was hype from what I've seen. But now in 2011, I observed that people grow more and more bored and to fill that boredom, they would troll endlessly for their own entertainment/feel better about themselves because they have nothing else. Ya sure I got trolled back in the day too but it was for fun.. Not to the point where people start going off until trolling became really really mean now. Like for some reason, people just don't care anymore which is even worse than being loving or a hating person.If you want to know why people hate Brawl, thats why. I didn't say I agree or disagree with it, but thats the reasoning. And yes, tons and tons of people think that way, justly or unjustly.
And until something changes, they will continue to think that way. If you want to break down a problem, then you have to at least know the complaints. And those are the complaints.
Resulting in the Melee community parasiting the Brawl one.one thing Brawl TOs can do to change these perceptions is to hold Brawl+Melee tournaments.
The brawl community has way more young smashers, so of course it's more likely for them to act like kids.. I thought we showed them how to do it for so many years before.. but, well there's nothing much you can do, kids act according to their emotions.. they didn't learn how to control themselves yet. Kids do things without thinking about the consequences of their actions. Not saying there aren't in melee either but ya.. For them to need a system to make them follow the rules just enforces my point. Ya sometimes I hear some disturbing stories..Resulting in the Melee community parasiting the Brawl one.
Brawl players don't owe anything to the Melee ones.
It's not the Brawl community that should put an extra effort in order to please Melee players, it's simply the Melee players that have to grow up.
Brawl does have combos. Don't be naive. They're simply limited due to the general physics of the game.Is that really what Brawl players say? There's no way. One of these is actually true, and one isn't.
What blur said is pretty much the truth.Sorry but some of the stuff you listed is complete not true and the rest is just reasons that make no sense.
No, people generally love to hate stuff, otherwise there wouldn't be so many haters.To be fair I don't understand why anyone would be hating on anything it only hurts yourself, it never feels good to hate.
Extra effort should go both ways. Melee could not and never will parasite the Brawl community to any relevant extent for the sole reason that Brawl is newer and will attract more players because of it.Resulting in the Melee community parasiting the Brawl one.
Brawl players don't owe anything to the Melee ones.
It's not the Brawl community that should put an extra effort in order to please Melee players, it's simply the Melee players that have to grow up.
I don't actually think it is off topic though.....I normally would post defending Brawl here, but instead I'll just note how far offtopic this thread has gone. (Not the first tho...)
I think choknater has it figured out best. Lumping people together is generally a bad idea.
I'd say the mean age of Melee players is at least 3-4 years higher than that of brawl players.What? Melee players don't need to grow up?
Nope. I wouldn't be so silly as to think that the Melee community is some strange group of people with mental capacities somehow different from the brawl community. In general people respond to events in no large variety, and in the converse of the current situation (if all melee players had been brawl players and all brawl players had been melee players) the general melee sentiment would be the same. Some might define the stereotypical Melee player's hate of Brawl as "immature" however this does not designate that other group is any better. Immaturity shows itself when there's something to be immature about, and Brawl players have a lot less in that department. They don't have to worry about how to keep their community alive, but Melee players do. Brawl players don't have to climb mountains to get people to play their game, but Melee players do. Brawl players don't have to fight for their game to be important, but Melee players do. When SSB4 comes out, we'll see how mature the community is.What? Melee players don't need to grow up?
That's all fine and dandy, but one mustn't pretend that opinions don't matter. Opinions decide most of what goes on in this community. It's the reason why Brawl characters are pictured on the top os SWF's banner instead of Melee characters. It's the reason why not all tournaments host both games. It's the reason why the BBR is testing out a MetaKnight ban. It's the reason behind a lot of things. It is always best to see that people's opinions are refined and logical. That's why stupid opinions are rejected. The community, through argument, will naturally select the most refined and logical opinions, but this happens only because more people disagree with your type of mindset.i've learned not to think of people as mobs or social groups. that's the job of edward bernays and advertisers (and i guess game developers hahaha.) i leave people to their own personal, individual opinions and there are plenty of people who are respectful toward the communities of other games, and each person has a different preference
Obvious troll is obvious, etcMajority of Brawls players that i have talked about ssbm they said that they dont want to play a very glitchy game, that for win you must to use glitchs.
They think that is not fair to abuse the engine, also they said that sakurai think that melee is a big fail.
And they said that they dont understand why we say that "we love ssbm" because we only playing 4stocks matchs, with no object on 5 differents stages, denigrates anything else of the game.
" Is like saying that you love a 15 songs album when in fact you only love 1 music "
Interessting point of view ...
http://frogout.org/Majority of Brawls players that i have talked about ssbm they said that they dont want to play a very glitchy game, that for win you must to use glitchs.
They think that is not fair to abuse the engine, also they said that sakurai think that melee is a big fail.
And they said that they dont understand why we say that "we love ssbm" because we only playing 4stocks matchs, with no object on 5 differents stages, denigrates anything else of the game.
" Is like saying that you love a 15 songs album when in fact you only love 1 music "
Interessting point of view ...
personally i just hate having brawl associated w/ melee because of what a non-fighting game it isSimply put, Melee players that dislike Brawl largely hate it because many Melee players feel that Brawl 'killed' the Melee scene. That Brawl took away Melee players and are continuing to take away potential people that want to play the game.
don't worry about it. It was quite obvious actually that your first language is not english. People need to learn to distinguish between people just being too lazy to write properly and people who's first language may not be English. Granted, this is an english forum, but I could fully understand what you were typing. There was commas and obvious attempts to make sense.keeper ->
Im sorry im french, im doing my best.