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What Street Fighter players think about Melee.
- Thread starter Sinji
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DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Sinji
Smash Master
Wow ... you obstruct my construct right their.
It depends on who your talking to. Half of the community hates out community while the other half seems to respect us. Now that we will be having a Street Fighter AE Event for Apex 2012, the SF ratio (in terms of liking our community) is 60:40.
Iron Dragon
Smash Lord
Most of the intelligent high level SF/Marvel players have a high respect for Melee and know the skill it takes to play the game well at a high level. I'm not sure top SF players thoughts on Brawl but I'm just going to take a guess that they don't like it as much.
Random SRK folk are usually pretty good at differentiating too.
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
I love your signature, Spencer.
thesage
Smash Hero
Well there's a fighting game club at my college and a smash club. They recently said they can beat us in a crew battle. Cyrain is in our club. >_>;
definitely not the case ... camping ni sf is different when u get backed into a corner u are much more limited in terms of defense and options ...
when u get backed up to the ledge in smash u get invincibility ... thats really my gripe ... he is giving stage control up but get rewarded ... i dislike that too much ... especially the way players just abusing it is stupid and kills the game for me. its pretty stupid.
Iron Dragon
Smash Lord
Not really because unless you have the life lead you can camp invincibility on the edge all you want but that won't matter. That really more than anything is just part of how Melee is a different type of game/fighter. Usually for me at most I'll use the edge for wearing out my opponent's invincibility when they come back from a fresh stock. Even so you're risking being on the edge, even Sheik has that risk.
And camping in SF isn't JUST defined by being in the corner whether you pushed yourself there or someone else did. You can camp midscreen and etc.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
But then how many people actually camp like that? There's only a handful of players but I guess your region is more plagued by that.. =/
i'm aware of that ... but i just dont accept the playstyles while these game mechanics exist
yea definitely m2gay and even my bro jesus camps me like a *** LOL hax too! dam my region is soooo LAME!
Don't worry, I still charge in with sheik and lose.
its ok when we team we are too dam good ... cuz hell hath no fury like falling off the stage near the most relentless red sheiks of the east LOLOLOLOL
Mr Wizzrobe
Smash Journeyman
Needs more WC/Canada/Europe style. We play to have fun, sir.
7ak
Smash Journeyman
I saw some vids online of some high level SSF2Turbo matches and started getting into it, even got an arcade stick and it's a lot of fun, I think Melee players would probably like it. I haven't ever played SF4 but to me it looks very much like the Brawl of SF.
When I first saw some SF2Turbo matches I thought it was an extremely boring spam fest, most comments on YouTube are "sonic boom! sonic boom! sonic boom!" or "hadouken hadouken all day" and I kind of agreed with that. Once you start playing though, you realize any poorly timed projectiles will be punished and it takes very good timing to keep track of when to throw one and when to wait.
The main problem with SF2Turbo is that it has many many incredibly cheap things in it which get old quick and can mostly only be escaped with reversals which can be hard. Things like Boxer's 60% Super and throw loops (kind of like chain throws), pretty much everything about Vega, Chun-Li's throws and camping, Dhalsim's camping, are ridiculous. The throwing system is very primitive too, and is especially annoying when you attempt a counter throw and it's 50-50 sometimes on who will get the throw. I also prefer Melee's teching, tech chase, and jab reset mechanics to SF2Turbo's unavoidable knockdown where you can only block, reverse, or try a counter throw.
If you can learn to get around those tactics though, it is a fun game. It's especially heavy on the fake outs and very matchup dependent counters and precise timings. I'd say if you're a Melee player, it would improve your execution, timing, spacing, and mindgames. In some ways, learning all the little matchup tricks is the most fun part of the game which I think makes it more difficult in some ways to learn a new SF character than a Melee one.
The worst problem with SF2Turbo though is probably how much of an *** the average player is online. They are the biggest trashtalkers and whiners I've ever played maybe besides Halo players. Of course there are some nice people too but there are a huge number of babies who spam the cheapest possible tick throws and rage quit.
As for what SF players think of Melee...sounds like it's about 50/50 and probably the more knowledgeable players have respect for it. Having played SF2Turbo for a little while, and Melee for a long time, I'd have to say Melee is definitely the better game but SF2Turbo is a fine game as well. What's interesting to me is how recently shield pressure tactics in Melee have changed and become much more like "meaty" and "safe jumping" attacks in SF. Both games are at the point where differences in literally a couple of frames have a huge impact on the outcome of an approach or shield, etc.
When I first saw some SF2Turbo matches I thought it was an extremely boring spam fest, most comments on YouTube are "sonic boom! sonic boom! sonic boom!" or "hadouken hadouken all day" and I kind of agreed with that. Once you start playing though, you realize any poorly timed projectiles will be punished and it takes very good timing to keep track of when to throw one and when to wait.
The main problem with SF2Turbo is that it has many many incredibly cheap things in it which get old quick and can mostly only be escaped with reversals which can be hard. Things like Boxer's 60% Super and throw loops (kind of like chain throws), pretty much everything about Vega, Chun-Li's throws and camping, Dhalsim's camping, are ridiculous. The throwing system is very primitive too, and is especially annoying when you attempt a counter throw and it's 50-50 sometimes on who will get the throw. I also prefer Melee's teching, tech chase, and jab reset mechanics to SF2Turbo's unavoidable knockdown where you can only block, reverse, or try a counter throw.
If you can learn to get around those tactics though, it is a fun game. It's especially heavy on the fake outs and very matchup dependent counters and precise timings. I'd say if you're a Melee player, it would improve your execution, timing, spacing, and mindgames. In some ways, learning all the little matchup tricks is the most fun part of the game which I think makes it more difficult in some ways to learn a new SF character than a Melee one.
The worst problem with SF2Turbo though is probably how much of an *** the average player is online. They are the biggest trashtalkers and whiners I've ever played maybe besides Halo players. Of course there are some nice people too but there are a huge number of babies who spam the cheapest possible tick throws and rage quit.
As for what SF players think of Melee...sounds like it's about 50/50 and probably the more knowledgeable players have respect for it. Having played SF2Turbo for a little while, and Melee for a long time, I'd have to say Melee is definitely the better game but SF2Turbo is a fine game as well. What's interesting to me is how recently shield pressure tactics in Melee have changed and become much more like "meaty" and "safe jumping" attacks in SF. Both games are at the point where differences in literally a couple of frames have a huge impact on the outcome of an approach or shield, etc.
Mr Postman
Smash Journeyman
Sinji
Smash Master
I introduced competitive melee to a SSF4 player at school the other day. The first thing I showed him was the Armada Movie. He said he wants to take up Melee and use Fox as his main.
Mr Postman
Smash Journeyman
tell him fox is the worst! he should play a good character
Thanos828
Smash Journeyman
Like Falco?
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Haha that's awesome.
SpeedyJ
Smash Journeyman
Most people I know play both. But for those who don't they either don't really mind it, or think Smash as a whole is crap (psh noobs I know).