Prince Longstrok
Taker of lives, defiler of daughters.
Just about threw my controller/s (CCP and Wiimote >.>) at the tv tonight playing against Ivy.
dat Razor Leaf v.v
dat Razor Leaf v.v
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Who Creates Worst Play Experience
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Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
You are severely underestimating the power and capability of the safest lockdown option in the game. The move by itself makes the dynamic of the spacing game irrelevant.
Hell the move by itself makes near entire characters irrelevant.
SpiderMad
Smash Master
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A CPU Ivy?
Beautiful Death
Smash Journeyman
Yup. Many people may find it "lame" or whatever but it's better to play keep away if you can. There is no need to approach if you don't have to and Falco does not have to against most characters. I mean, do you see Ryus rushing down Zangiefs in Street Fighter? Make your opponents come to you.
Prince Longstrok
Taker of lives, defiler of daughters.
Aye, level 9 o: (I realize that sounds pathetic, but I just recently got my Wiiu and P:M. Still practicing until I hop online and play you guys, so dont judge me too much xD)
oh, it's far too late for that.
Prince Longstrok
Taker of lives, defiler of daughters.
:s since getting my setup all I have been doing is getting skins xP haha. just last night was the first time I really sat down and played.
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Nemiak temp
Smash Apprentice
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LOOOOOOOOOOOL. Laser camping doesn't win matches. Shine and dair do.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Fox is like twice as aggressive as Falco and Fox is still HELLA campy.
Smash is by nature a campy, patient, spacing game that rewards players for quick decision making, not for aggro frametraps (Falco has all of 1 frametrap)
Smash is by nature a campy, patient, spacing game that rewards players for quick decision making, not for aggro frametraps (Falco has all of 1 frametrap)
Metà
Smash Master
^ falco has hella frame traps are you kidding me?
Nemiak temp
Smash Apprentice
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In no universe is fox more aggressive than Falco. He's faster but that's just about it. Falco has a ridiculous pressure game with hella frame traps. Fox can pressure certain characters but he's more of a tech chasing/bait-punish kinda guy.
HyperrCrow
Emotional Reality
Fox is only this way because of the players. In a vacuum Fox is the ultimate aggressive character.
Nemiak temp
Smash Apprentice
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We're not talking about in a vacuum though. And **** all that theory ****. No player will ever be able to do that with fox
a vehicle
Smash Apprentice
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Have you ever been wrong? You need to cool down
NightShadow6
Smash Journeyman
How about they can both play both styles as they each have tools to do all that ****.
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
Who creates worst play experience? Douchebags.
The_NZA
Smash Lord
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All i'm reading is some weird debate around whether two characters built around non-committal projectiles are somehow "not campy" and another pointless debate on which character with a frame 1 combo starter is more or less aggressive. Dafuq smashboards.
JOE!
Smash Hero
Whenever you badmouth space animals, incredible butthurt ensues.
Nemiak temp
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Fox is mah boii stop talkin smack niggar
Paradoxium
Smash Master
Fox and falco are pretty cool, but let's be honest guys, wolf is the greatest space animal of ALL TIME.
SwordsRbroken
Smash Apprentice
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MrBigstuff
Smash Apprentice
Falco has the best camping ability, plus he's flipping Falco. People are complaining about Zelda and Ivy, both of which get outcamped by a top tier who also has ridiculous rushdown.
The Real Gamer
Smash Hero
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Guest
It's less of spam, and more of the fact that her Razor Leaf is like an automatic pressure tool. You can change the speed of it, if you ps it then it won't even go far enough out to hit the ivy, if you shield it then it goes through your shield and ivy gets a free grab into w/e, if you roll behind then the leaf is still there to get you, if you jump over the leaf then ivy can fair/nair/bair where you are, if you clank it Ivy still gets the grab...Am I missing anything?
Also Ivy has really safe and good tilts. Those are pretty dumb to deal with.
Lex Jewthor
Smash Apprentice
On top of her Nair being really good at getting out of pressure. Like, almost Luigi Nair good at it. Oh, it also combos really well into her own ****. Also, her up B seems waaay to safe, and fast. Only option I have is holding the ledge and then hitting her when she is forced to jump. I really, really hate Ivy right now. Basically, I camp her the **** out with Bananas.
Also, Fox, but only because you seem to slide off the edge a loooot easier in P:M than in melee, so a shine near the edge will probably make you slip off.
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DDD because Fly 4 stocked me with his 
Archangel
Smash Hero
Ivysuar is not that bad. You are just forced to pick a character where that is true...LOL
If you decide to get a character with limited speed, and a bad/no projectile...then you are forced to be annoyed to death.
If you decide to get a character with limited speed, and a bad/no projectile...then you are forced to be annoyed to death.
Archangel
Smash Hero
You can't make everyone like fox. I just think range and anti-approach design is not very...melee'ish. You can approach Peach and Puff as gay as they are. You can't really approach Ivy with some characters.
Still, Ivy isn't as broke as people make her out to be. She still loses to the people who beat her for the most part. she's just better at beating up people who she beat up in 2.5.
Still, Ivy isn't as broke as people make her out to be. She still loses to the people who beat her for the most part. she's just better at beating up people who she beat up in 2.5.
MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
Woah hold the phones
So do bair and utilt.