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Who else is nervous about Brawl potentially sucking?

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Wolfblade

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sorry if this is incredibly off topic... but ive got some dirt to get off my chest. I care not if I'm banned...simply because it is the truth and some people need to realize this:

Anyone with me?
You coulda phrased it in a more polite manner (even if I did delete the angry part of yer post on the quote there). Even if I may be a couple pages late from that post you made, it was long, and it frustrated me a tad.

I hear what yer saying for though, however some may be outa context, to a degree you are correct.

There are some people seem afraid of loosing aspects of the game and are not pleased with the way things are turning out for Brawl. But even these nay sayers will turn around once the game comes out, and if not then so be it.

I think anyone can agree though that there are still plenty of updates to go before people should consider making large deals about what will be in brawl, and I'm not just talkin about the wavedashing thing, but just everything in general.

I'm happy that the only complaint I have about brawl (besides it not being out now!!!) is not getting enough info. 1 update a day is not enough!

Edit: I was not gonna quote yer entire post... I didn't even read all of it to be fair :p But I got the jist of it... it was loooong.
 

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However in the end he plans to create a league [that never really works too well] and verbally assaults Dylan. Though I agree with this:
Sakurai is going to give the people what they want. And true... this game may be geared to a more casual audience... and may be different than melee in many ways... but you must look at this aspect with EXCITEMENT, not fear. The competitive smash community will evolve through brawl just as the smash series will.
Yes, I am looking with fear, but just on that one update. Brawl could still be a good game. Even without Zamus its still decent. However, having Zamus unavailable for non-item matches hurts Brawl bad. There is still many days to go, there is still a chance.

This one should at least score a good lol. If not, as John stated before, "you're not human".

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Only a few, only Clifford on a rampage, Barney, and the kids jumping out of a 2nd story window Peter Pan ish and falling was truely funny, the rest was stupid... and some of it gross adult humor.
 

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Wow, this thread has really veered off topic, and in less than 24 hours.

he plans to create a league [that never really works too well] and verbally assaults Dylan.
Good luck with that. Who are you talking about, anyway?
 

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Anyone who went through the Halo CE => Halo 2 "evolution" in the competitive community knows that franchises can be ruined quite easily.

This blind optimism is laughable.
 

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sorry if this is incredibly off topic... but ive got some dirt to get off my chest. I care not if I'm banned...simply because it is the truth and some people need to realize this:
*insert poorly written rant here*
Dude, you can only use the FS ONCE per match, that means you have to be lucky enough to GET IT FIRST and THEN you get to play ZSS. But suppose a FS ball doesn't drop until you have 1 life left? How are you going to main ZSS?

It's poor designing, that's why everyone is complaining about it so open your scruby eyes and stop kissing Sakurai's *** so you can realize what a huge flaw this is.

Again, you call them idiot's because they had a diffrent opinion then you?

Again you guys are losers.

Lol wow, "HERE's hOPING SHE'S LOW TIER SO WE WON't CARE".

wow, just wow. I can't beleive the ignorence of some of you.

You know what, I hope this game does suck *** so you will all kill yourselfs.
Yup, way to represent the 4chan community, I'm sure you are a fine example.

So... it must be cool there at 4chan, all the idiots cursing about nothing, all that dumpster porn and most of all you guys must just love to swim around in your own elitist bull****.

You talk about us like we think we own everything but look at yourself. 4chan is nothing but a place for pottymouth 10 year olds that want to find some free porn and curse about everything under the sun.

Anyone who went through the Halo CE => Halo 2 "evolution" in the competitive community knows that franchises can be ruined quite easily.

This blind optimism is laughable.
I noticed how much easier Halo 2 is than 1, I can't play 2 that well because the auto aim is so dam intense that I can't aim and look around well.
 

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Yup, way to represent the 4chan community, I'm sure you are a fine example.

So... it must be cool there at 4chan, all the idiots cursing about nothing, all that dumpster porn and most of all you guys must just love to swim around in your own elitist.

You talk about us like we think we own everything but look at yourself. 4chan is nothing but a place for pottymouth 10 year olds that want to find some free porn and curse about everything under the sun.
Wow. Good thing RedEx got there before me, Toxn, because I would have ripped you apart.

Good job straightening that out, Ex.


I noticed how much easier Halo 2 is than 1, I can't play 2 that well because the auto aim is so dam intense that I can't aim and look around well.
That's one of the main reasons the Halo fanboys were so pissed off when release Numero Dos came out. Some people just went back to Halo 1, kind of like *GASP*--SUPER SMASH 64!
 

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I just realized I left off a word in my 4chan rant, fixed.

I'm not a Halo fanboy but I do enjoy a good round of Halo, online sucks here so most of the time it's 4 player split screen where you either screen watch or be screen watched >.>

I'm gona try to find LAN parties though.
 

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Well, that's it. I'm uploading golden videos to Youtube, they should be up tomorrow.

They will be able to clean my name.

Edit: First two are UP!!

#1

#2

I do not enjoy the second one as much as the rest, but idk about you.
 

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I just realized I left off a word in my 4chan rant, fixed.

I'm not a Halo fanboy but I do enjoy a good round of Halo, online sucks here so most of the time it's 4 player split screen where you either screen watch or be screen watched >.>

I'm gona try to find LAN parties though.
Halo is awsome, and nothing beats a LAN party with your friends. Especially when one of them plays it like 10 hours a week and you beat them, and go on a 20 kill killing spree. Good times, good times! :chuckle: Halo is awsome...watch me get killed by fanboys everywhere, and Halo 2>Halo 1...I wonder how Halo Wars (the RTS Halo) is going to turn out.
 

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Wow...alot happens when I leave for just the day. Lets see here.

Regarding Scrubs/n00bs and their flaming on both sides
While I try not to act like a scrub, I am sad to admit that when I get riled up, I act like one, and for this I apologize. I only oppose some things because in a way, somethings that affect competitive play can affect casual, and visa versa. The people I really hate are the jerks who want to change things merely because they're jealous of the competitive players and want to see them getting screwed over. They're the ultimate scrubs, IMO.

Regarding Dylan
I'm going to reserve judgement on this one. While at first I thought he was a jerk, he has made amends (and so has I hopefully) but I still am a little cautious. I don't know wheather this change of heart was because he really thought I was an intresting debater, or because his *** was yay close to getting banned and he wanted to look better. Again, I'm not saying either way until he comes back, in which case, I'll know for sure.

Reguarding Zamus
No matter what the public opinion is on this latest news, I still say I like the concept. To each his own.

C'est la vie,

Ogre Deity Link.
 

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You have to understand, some mods (no names) hate Dylan's guts for reasons I'm not willing to put out on these forums. You know what he was banned for?

Name calling.

BTW, the name calling in question was "scrub", which probably shouldn't count as an insult any more than "tourneytard". A scrub is someone who builds up rules that hinder him from being the best he can possibly be. From what I could tell, the people he called scrubs fit the definition perfectly. That name calling wasn't spiteful, it was truth, plain and clear.

I also went over his posts. He didn't call people names often at all. Most of his posts were completely civil and reasonable. This was a change I hadn't seen in him before, and I found it to be quite agreeable.

Look at his first post, then look at the rest of them. Quite a difference, wasn't there? He was just upset at the update because it limited the choices for the competitive crowd because there are most likely going to be no items in tourney play for Brawl. Now I have complete faith in Sakurai for him to do the right thing. After all, Melee may have been amazing, but isn't he the man who created the game? Give him a little credit, people. However Dylan, being a bit more of a pessimist than I, didn't quite manage to see the silver lining or ignored it.

As a result, he gets crucified?

The meat of the thread looks a whole lot to me like what happened in Jerusalem about 2k years ago.

Hmm...come to think of it, there are QUITE a few similarities there. Not the least of which being that the scrubs of today and the Pharisees of then had the same catch-phrase:

"Screw the money, we have rules!"

Sounds a whole lot like a scrub mindset.

Now to go to a different aspect, tell me, who deserved a banning more, Shakezoola or Dylan? Just ignore Mewcario, he's an *******. Considering that he was wrong, repetitive, unreasonable AND extremely vulgar in his posting, I'd vote for Shakezoola. I didn't see any of the above in Dylan's posts.

I believe that this banning was rather petty on the part of the mods as there were some serious infractions going unnoticed in the light of the undeserved attention Dylan's posts gained over time. I would start a petition, but unfortunately there's no way of doing so on these boards that I know of. This was an unjust act that should be repealed.
 

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That's one of the main reasons the Halo fanboys were so pissed off when release Numero Dos came out. Some people just went back to Halo 1, kind of like *GASP*--SUPER SMASH 64!
Melee is generally regarded as a better game than SSB, which is absolutely not the case for Halo 2 and Halo 1. The only people who prefer Halo 2 are terrible--which is to say, an awful lot of people.
 

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@Zephyr

the way i see it, Dylan received the ban mearly out of participation. The other party (not sure if it was one or more) [all] received PERM bans, while Dylan will return on Monday, which was stated in a post made by a friend.


ZSamus = sheik clone IMO, and will be available as such
 

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I believe that this banning was rather petty on the part of the mods as there were some serious infractions going unnoticed in the light of the undeserved attention Dylan's posts gained over time. I would start a petition, but unfortunately there's no way of doing so on these boards that I know of. This was an unjust act that should be repealed.
I guess you could always start a thread. *shrugs*

And whoever it was who said the "butt buddies" thing that I missed somehow, testament, I think, just lost all credibility. Way to go?

*yawn*

...well, at least I hope this new update will spawn less hate... actually, less discussion in general. *stretches*
At least I finally got some sleep..
 

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regarding the ban, he had 5 infractions already. shake was new so Im guessing he has 0 infractions unless he got one from posting in that thread.
 

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I hate it when people talk like Zephyr does. You're on the internet, dude, not writing a novel. I'm the craziest writer/author you'll meet on the boards but when it comes to Smash, just be ****ing casual. You come off sounding like an ***.
 

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I hate it when people talk like Zephyr does. You're on the internet, dude, not writing a novel. I'm the craziest writer/author you'll meet on the boards but when it comes to Smash, just be ****ing casual. You come off sounding like an ***.
Dude, you aren't sounding too casual yourself. If he wants to write three paragraphs on something he feels strongly enough on, let him. As for you and I, we can get by by writing a few sentences. And lay off the swearing, K dude? We're all buddies here. ('cept for the occasional troll-idiot, but they usually get banned fairly quickly.)
 

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I hate it when people talk like Zephyr does. You're on the internet, dude, not writing a novel. I'm the craziest writer/author you'll meet on the boards but when it comes to Smash, just be ****ing casual. You come off sounding like an ***.
I am pretty sure that people who lecture other people (like what I am doing lol) sound like ***es. He has the right to post however he wants as long as he follows the rule. He could write his posts in sonnet form if he wanted. Don't call (or imply) that he is an *** because he has his own style of posting.

Edit: Got beaten to the punch line by Ogre Deity Link. =(
 

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I'd love to do a post in sonnet form. But since I'm not Shakespere, therefore I cannot do it, I shall instead do this post in Haiku.

Slapped in the face,
Sheik returning with long range
Zero Suit hurts me

Think broken perhaps?
Casual players are screwed,
Ask why Sakurai.
 

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I'd love to do a post in sonnet form. But since I'm not Shakespere, therefore I cannot do it, I shall instead do this post in Haiku.

Slapped in the face,
Sheik returning with long range
Zero Suit hurts me

Think broken perhaps?
Casual players are screwed,
Ask why Sakurai.
Are you by chance a Link player? If you are, I feel your pain. :(

I hate the concept of Sheik, and use to hate fighting them. Now, I like comboing them. Muwhahahahahahaha :)

Edit: Hopefully, the character isn't as broken as it looks. Either that or Link has something really good to fight back with (HIGHLY doubtful).
 

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Slapped in the face,
Sheik returning with long range
Zero Suit hurts me

Think broken perhaps?
Casual players are screwed,
Ask why Sakurai.
I saw and I read
Your spontaneous haiku,
You are so awesome.



I like sounding like a stuck-up sophisticated jerk AND a casual guy. ^^
And Zephyr's style was great, too.
 

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I hate it when people talk like Zephyr does. You're on the internet, dude, not writing a novel. I'm the craziest writer/author you'll meet on the boards but when it comes to Smash, just be ****ing casual. You come off sounding like an ***.
I personally like reading articulate posts.
 

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whoa whoa whoa, everyone needs to calm down. The past is the past and we can't change that.

As for the Zamus thing, I'm somewhat disappointed in Sakurai for limiting some of the playability. He's given no hints to the fact that Zamus is available from the start of the match. As for those who think it will be just like the Sheik thing, it's similar, but it's still different. Sheik can be swapped in and out of at any time during a match, completely different then the Zamus transformation which only happens when she uses her final smash. One thing we don't know is whether she will change back or not when she dies, although that part doesn't matter as much since items are banned in tournies anyways (unless the back room rules in favor of the smash ball, but I think someone already posted saying they banned it)
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whoa whoa whoa, everyone needs to calm down. The past is the past and we can't change that.

As for the Zamus thing, I'm somewhat disappointed in Sakurai for limiting some of the playability. He's given no hints to the fact that Zamus is available from the start of the match. As for those who think it will be just like the Sheik thing, it's similar, but it's still different. Sheik can be swapped in and out of at any time during a match, completely different then the Zamus transformation which only happens when she uses her final smash. One thing we don't know is whether she will change back or not when she dies, although that part doesn't matter as much since items are banned in tournies anyways (unless the back room rules in favor of the smash ball, but I think someone already posted saying they banned it)
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WHAT?!!! they already banned items in tourneys so soon?
are you sure? because i was thinking that this time around they might allow them...

BTW your period at the end of your post is not green ^_^
 

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WHAT?!!! they already banned items in tourneys so soon?
are you sure? because i was thinking that this time around they might allow them...

BTW your period at the end of your post is not green ^_^
I seem to recall a post a while back posted by Scav(I think?) saying that the back room ruled out the smash ball, although it's somewhat obvious that items would be removed again for the same reason they were taken out in melee.

oh and as for my punctuation
, I love each and every mark like it was my own son, after all, they are there to help us!

one thing I guess in Zamus's favor is that she is under the newcomers,so I guess that should give people the hope that she MAY still be selectable from the getgo.
 

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I seem to recall a post a while back posted by Scav(I think?) saying that the back room ruled out the smash ball, although it's somewhat obvious that items would be removed again for the same reason they were taken out in melee.

oh and as for my punctuation
, I love each and every mark like it was my own son, after all, they are there to help us!
do you have a link to this at all so i can read it?

you missed one :laugh::laugh:

EDIT: i mean some...
 

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do you have a link to this at all so i can read it?

you missed one :laugh::laugh:
I'll see if I can't find the post, also question marks aren't my friends, so they don't count.

well, I couldn't find anything by Scav, at least in this forum (I somehow doubt the post would've been in the item forum) maybe it was mic that had posted it? I'm not sure, but hopefully someone from the back room will come in to confirm something or another about the ball.
 

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all right do you think you can PM it to me though so i can read it later?

i'm goin to bed i only got six hours of sleep from the last update and the next update unfortunately i can't see... stupid late night work meeting oh well cya!
 

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I hate it when people talk like Zephyr does. You're on the internet, dude, not writing a novel. I'm the craziest writer/author you'll meet on the boards but when it comes to Smash, just be ****ing casual. You come off sounding like an ***.
And when you, a person who no one even knows or cares about, comes on a thread and starts making bull**** rules it makes you look like a fool. Personally, I prefer thought out posts, but on the other hand I hate imbecilic posts like yours.

So while you want to be "****ing casual" the rest of us want to get our across points without looking like an idiot.

EDIT: I left a word off again >.>
 

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And when you, a person who no one even knows or cares about, comes on a thread and starts making bull**** rules it makes you look like a fool. Personally, I prefer thought out posts, but on the other hand I hate imbecilic posts like yours.

So while you want to be "****ing casual" the rest of us want to get our across without looking like an idiot.
I agree. :]
 

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Y'know I don't see why Dylan gets banned at all. Is it so wrong to speak your mind? :O
 

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lol at Zephyr's post. So Dylan is a Christ figure now! A martyr to the scrub-free! Except, instead of arising in 3 days, he takes twice as long. We need to make a flag for this channel. I think Dylan's already got one, but we could turn it into a banner.

A couple of questions:
When Dylan gets back, will he have no refractions?
And
Can Dylan read what's going on here, even when banned?
 

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Sometimes, yes. As in, inappropriate. Could be ill-timed (repetition), ill-placed (making other threads go off-topic) or said in an aggressive manner (flames woo). I don't know exactly what Dylan did, but my guess is that it had something to do with these, as somehow his behavior was making it difficult for people to get along, and it was deemed to be more his fault than anyone else's.

Speaking your mind can be very dangerous.

More on topic, though, I'm not worried about Brawl sucking at all, because (a) I'm not that good, (b) we have the same guy working on it as last time, and (c) everything which people are complaining about either isn't important to the game or is like being scared of the bogeyman. Sure, there's a slim possibility that everything might be as bad as you imagine, but... no one's seen the bogeyman!

[edit] Yes, if Dylan wanted to he can read everything here. Even if you ban the IP he could still go to an internet terminal somewhere or use a friend's computer. If you simply ban the user that just prevents him from logging in, and he could still read the forums as a guest.[/edit]
 

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Y'know I don't see why Dylan gets banned at all. Is it so wrong to speak your mind? :O
He gets banned because when people start to tick him off, he lets them have what they deserve, and that usually results in some infraction in one form or another.

Which isn't all that bad, really--he has a lot to say and is spot-on correct in most situations; it's just that he goes a pinch too far sometimes.

P.S: Wait--he got banned for calling someone a "scrub"? There were, like, ten others of us using that term in here at the same time he was...it seems kind of weird that he got an infraction and not us.
 
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