WOW the amount of intellence of that statement awes me...lololol jk dude
jabs are good on spacies...or if youre feeling hilarious utilt
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Who needs help with Combos, Damages, Advanced Tactics for Falco, etc.
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WOW the amount of intellence of that statement awes me...lololol jk dude
jabs are good on spacies...or if youre feeling hilarious utilt
puckgood
Smash Journeyman
Ok.... I have another question....
I was thinking earlier that it would be nice if Falco had a shinespike. And then I thought, Well, hey, people always do those combos where they shine, jump cancel insanely fast (usually with the control stick, right?) and do dair on the way up, hitting them back down. So.... would it be possible to do this off of the ledge? Hit them with the shine, jump cancel and dair them down, then recover to the stage. Possibly not the best option, but pretty flashy. Also, you could start it as a bombsoldier.... and then survive. THis would probably be done when they are in the position for a bombsoldier; they'd probably be below the stage....
Is there a problem with my reasoning? I'm gonna try to check this out soon, but I have been very busy of late.
I was thinking earlier that it would be nice if Falco had a shinespike. And then I thought, Well, hey, people always do those combos where they shine, jump cancel insanely fast (usually with the control stick, right?) and do dair on the way up, hitting them back down. So.... would it be possible to do this off of the ledge? Hit them with the shine, jump cancel and dair them down, then recover to the stage. Possibly not the best option, but pretty flashy. Also, you could start it as a bombsoldier.... and then survive. THis would probably be done when they are in the position for a bombsoldier; they'd probably be below the stage....
Is there a problem with my reasoning? I'm gonna try to check this out soon, but I have been very busy of late.
YEAH!
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Thanks everyone who watched the Falco videos i posted above... We're simple trying to improve.. .and yeah.. and such... it's so cool to have such a falco community..
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EDIT: For PuckGood... depending on the angle you actually could pull that off and live from it... or to be more flashy wall jump of the edge and down air and then use ur recovery.. that will also work and you will survive.. try it =)
so yeah.. keep MELEEING EVERYONE LOL *MELEEING* IS THAT A WORD?
puckgood
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, but you couldn't do the wall jump as low on some stages (ie; fd, bf) but I shall tryify that. Meleeing is definitely a word, if you look it up in Webster's Complete, Unabridged, Verbatim, Absurdly Lengthy Dictionary (Edition 745) it says, "Meleeing: /verb/ 1: To do something in the manner of Super Smash Brothers Melee, especially to play. 2: To shun Brawl and all things evil. See also: Awesome, Sweet, Cool, Utterly fantabulous, Really cool in general."
Da Shuffla
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Okay, sorry, what's a "bombsoldier?" I know who he is, but what is the move?
shine dairs and shine bairs are easy to come back from....wall jumping to do it is stupid...
I watched some of your vids, Vectorman:
You both got decent techskill and stuff but i'd suggest to chill a bit more.
You're very fast but your approaches/patterns can still be ***** (e.g. either pillar with multishines or let it be but don't do an failed doubleshine to DJ pillar)
Basically i only can say the same stuff as Mogwai: Don't only try to combo and move around flashy
And work on your edgeguard.
Edit: and if Axe sits in his shield, waiting for you to appraoch with a shffl so he can shine out of shield, just grab him now and then ;P
Or mess up his timing with DDing/WDing back in front if his shield
You both got decent techskill and stuff but i'd suggest to chill a bit more.
You're very fast but your approaches/patterns can still be ***** (e.g. either pillar with multishines or let it be but don't do an failed doubleshine to DJ pillar)
Basically i only can say the same stuff as Mogwai: Don't only try to combo and move around flashy
And work on your edgeguard.
Edit: and if Axe sits in his shield, waiting for you to appraoch with a shffl so he can shine out of shield, just grab him now and then ;P
Or mess up his timing with DDing/WDing back in front if his shield
mikhail sucks cuz hes a tank. an absolute tank.
hey everyone i just started playing melee and i want to use falco at his fullest. i have a few questions that i hope DaShizWiz or anyone can answer.
1. WHats the point of using shl, why cant you use the regular blaster?
2. Whats the easiest way to use shl, step by step instructions please.
3. Is there an article or source that explains all of falco's combos and advanced techniques and how to use them? If so can i have that site?
4. How do i cancel a shine into the spike? Whenever i shine the opponent would fly higher than my jump making it impossible to get above and spike.
Thanks in advanced!
1. WHats the point of using shl, why cant you use the regular blaster?
2. Whats the easiest way to use shl, step by step instructions please.
3. Is there an article or source that explains all of falco's combos and advanced techniques and how to use them? If so can i have that site?
4. How do i cancel a shine into the spike? Whenever i shine the opponent would fly higher than my jump making it impossible to get above and spike.
Thanks in advanced!
1. The point of SHL is so that you can have the ability of being completely mobile and still laser your opponent. Also if you can shl fast enough you can immobilize them while you cross the whole level and continue to combo them. Watch this video and you can see the effectiveness of SHL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRMbsFibuh4 Also if you SHL it cancels the lag of putting the gun away so you can SHL into a Dsmash with no lag from the laser. It is really effective.
2. The way I SHL is
a)Run
b) Press x to jump
c) Let go of forward
d) Shoot
e) Fast fall(Press down)
To do a retreating SHL:
a) Run away
b) Jump
c) Tap back
d) Press b
e) press down to fastfall
2. The way I SHL is
a)Run
b) Press x to jump
c) Let go of forward
d) Shoot
e) Fast fall(Press down)
To do a retreating SHL:
a) Run away
b) Jump
c) Tap back
d) Press b
e) press down to fastfall
I see. Can you solve my shine spike problem?
Alright, well If I understood correctly he is going too high for you to spike him before he regains control fo his character. The only thing I can think of is that his damage is too high or you aren't shine canceling fast enough. The higher damage he has the faster you need to shine cancel. Try to jump immediately out of your shine. Or learn to waveshine.
3. No there is no such thing. Falco combo's are situational and you just need to learn what to do when. Certain people like do to certain combos at certain percentages on certain characters.
4. you can shine spike with falco...if you mean shine dair...hit them with the bottom of the shine then jc dair as fast as you can.
btw...you said brawl...you meant melee right? because all of this is is sort of irrel since his shine is different in brawl
4. you can shine spike with falco...if you mean shine dair...hit them with the bottom of the shine then jc dair as fast as you can.
btw...you said brawl...you meant melee right? because all of this is is sort of irrel since his shine is different in brawl
yea i meant melee. im having trouble with shine then jump cancel. how do i jump cancel to the the best height to spike someone?
i totally dont understand...what are you trying to do...are you shining them on the stage then trying to dair them? if so just press up on the control stick as fast as you can then press down on the c stic k as fast as you can then youll get it but i dont know i fthats waht you want...if you are trying to run off and shine then dair...you better be pretty **** fast. if you just mean spike when they are coming back...you shouldnt need to shine...i dont knwo tell me what you are looking for exactly.
JCing a shine is just shining and then pressing X,Y or up on the control stick to jump.
You can choose between SH, FJ or DJ just as if you were standing on the ground.
The reason why your dair doesn't connect is probably bcuz you are playing against very floatiy chars like Luigi or Peach.
In this case it's often better to not spike them after the shine.
Or you need to practice jumping out of the shine faster.
You can choose between SH, FJ or DJ just as if you were standing on the ground.
The reason why your dair doesn't connect is probably bcuz you are playing against very floatiy chars like Luigi or Peach.
In this case it's often better to not spike them after the shine.
Or you need to practice jumping out of the shine faster.
Falcos didnt do well at Event 52 
except of course Chops
except of course Chops
Da Shuffla
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Fox ID, you don't have to let go of forward when you SHL. You just have to remember to tilt, not tap, the control stick in the desired direction. You get more distance this way.
Vince, also try waveshining. Waveshining is one of Falco's most dangerous tools in comboing.
Vince, also try waveshining. Waveshining is one of Falco's most dangerous tools in comboing.
yea im trying to shine to launch my opp then use Dair to drill them down then shine again and Dair repeat. but the problem i have is that after the launch with the shine i dont jump high enough. should i jump with the joy stick or x/y? also, is waveshining a moving shine?
ok...it depnds on who you are playing and what percentage they are at...for fast fallers i use y, for everyoen else i use the joystick...waveshine is shining then wavedashing right after.
puckgood
Smash Journeyman
Ummm..... my shine to dair off the legde thing again.... I'm having some trouble being quick enough. If I pull it off, I can't recover soon enough. If I dair earier (immediately after I start jumping) then the dair doesn't occur. Is it possible to do this, and if so, from what position. (For those wondering what I'm talking about, I want to be able to shine someone when they're off of the ledge, jc and dair them immediately down. Theoretically, even if I do this below the stage, the dair will wear off in time for me to recover. But.... it doesn't seem to, either becuase I have slow fingers or it isn't possible.) I JC with the control stick, btw.... seems fastest.
AXE 09
Smash Master
thanks for the advice falcinho... much appreciated lol.
it'd be great if everyone else were to comment and rate our falcos if you could. we've practiced long and hard, and i'd like to see what everyone thinks.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199501
please and thank you =)
Da Shuffla
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Psyke, sheild, then briefly hold down while you sweep your thumb across Y and B. Y causes you to jump out of your shield, B cancels your jump into a shine. It's a beautiful thing. People think you are going defensive, you do one of these and then start a combo. GET BACK!
Puck, I honestly try not to go off of the edge too much with Falco considering his horrid recovery. I usually stay on the edge and ledgehopped Dair, Dsmash, or maybe even Dtilt. However, if you want to do this, stay as close to the ledge as possible to do it, JC with the stick like you are doing, and Dair with the c-stick. The c-stick lets you do a Dair immediately after you JC your shine. Then you can quickly make it back to the ledge. The JC and the Dair inputs are practically simultaneous
Puck, I honestly try not to go off of the edge too much with Falco considering his horrid recovery. I usually stay on the edge and ledgehopped Dair, Dsmash, or maybe even Dtilt. However, if you want to do this, stay as close to the ledge as possible to do it, JC with the stick like you are doing, and Dair with the c-stick. The c-stick lets you do a Dair immediately after you JC your shine. Then you can quickly make it back to the ledge. The JC and the Dair inputs are practically simultaneous
yeah listen to shuffla dont fall too far below...shine dairs are too cool.
Omni_Smash
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Is this an actual combo or is my freind's fox just having ******** DI problems?
At low percentages I forward throw > Illusion > Uptilt/ UpSmash(Smash usually ends combo I can also forward smash if his DI is more behind and low) > Full jump Upair or depending on DI Bair.
I just want to know if this combo is very useful, I've been using in it's raw form since my freind's fox learned to tech falco's downthrow after a sheild grab. (Raw form) Foward throw > Illusion > Uptilt > Upair
Another thing that I'm wondering about is back throw to Dair if the throw takes them off the ledge... I'm not much of a falco and any comment on these silly noob tricks would be nice.
At low percentages I forward throw > Illusion > Uptilt/ UpSmash(Smash usually ends combo I can also forward smash if his DI is more behind and low) > Full jump Upair or depending on DI Bair.
I just want to know if this combo is very useful, I've been using in it's raw form since my freind's fox learned to tech falco's downthrow after a sheild grab. (Raw form) Foward throw > Illusion > Uptilt > Upair
Another thing that I'm wondering about is back throw to Dair if the throw takes them off the ledge... I'm not much of a falco and any comment on these silly noob tricks would be nice.
uhm....its ok situationally....
double posting ******* gtfo of here
since this is the falco boards....bing how epic is mark? i'm guessing he'll still raep.
Wow this is some nice advice. I always did with x to b, but this probably will work as fast as a buffered roll (which is very close to frameperfect)
Thanks. I'm gonna try it when I get home
3747373796432
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What's your input for wavedashing out of the shine? Whenever I try to I just jump out of the shine because I airdodge too early.
airdodge later.
Da Shuffla
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Why can't you shield> shine with Y>B? Just asking.
Omni Smash, if your friend plays Fox, you have much better options combo-wise. Dair-shine combos are your best friend. Throw in some Utilts and use lasers to keep control.
lolol foxes are too easy to combo
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
Thanks Falcinho and (sorry if i spelled wrong) and everyone for the rating and everything on my Falco.. Now I have a weird and anonymous request but could you now go in the Mewtwo section and rate my Mewtwo? >>; lol you don't have to but it'd sure be nice.. lol Thanks.. allrite.. laters and thanks again