Why do people think charizard will be heavy?

[Hippochinfat]

In the games he's fast with a great sp. attack stat and an okay attack stat that is made super awesome since he's the best belly drummer in the game. BUT he has bad HP, defence and sp. defence and awful defensive typing so why should he be heavy? I mean squirtle and ivysaur both evolve into defensive pokemon but charizard doesn't, not saying that ivysaur or squirtle will be heavy though.

 

[Baka_Shade]

I figure the Trainer's three Pokemon will be designed relative to each other, rather than drawing directly from the game...and they seem to be going for a light-medium-heavy trichotomy. On the other hand, I don't think he'll be Bowser heavy.

 

[MysticKenji]

Because he's big.

Weight has nothing to do with (Special) Defense in-game.

 

[Feryx]

Aparently, Ike is pretty speedy in his games, yet here he is heavier that Bowser. Just putting that out there

 

[Black/Light]

Cause he is big and there most be a stats difference between the pokemon. . . and the other 2 are med sized and small.

 

[Zallipus]

Charizard is more than likely going to be heavy because of size. I can't imagine him as being a medium/light weight.

 

[Knyaguy]

So you expect squirtle to be heavy...... um yeah thats not gonna work.(ivysaur already assumed middle weight)

 

[Dizzynecro]

I hope he's heavy, because a heavy character + gliding/flying(multiple jumps maybe?) would be awsome.

 

[jlorde34@yahoo.com]

yea i dont think they basing it frm pokemon games charizard will be the heavy strong smash attack one ivysaur will be well balanced like mario and squirtle will proly be fast but easy to kill.

 

[Glinth]

Mewtwo's one of the fastest pokemon, is he fast in melee? No... he's not...
Pikachu is half as fast as mewtwo, is he slower then mewtwo was in melee? No!

-_-

 

[Pyr0]

Why do people think charizard will be heavy?

Because normal people use common sense.

 

[STEREO_226]

because he's really big?... Ike is heavy and he's fast in FE...

 

[ssbmaster2007]

I think he will be a heavy character for the most obvious reason; size. He's a large character, not just tall, but kind of fat too. lol

But I don't think he'll be a very slow character, though of course slower than the other two Pokémon, still good speed overall considering his size and weight.

I wonder what his taunts will be like? One of them should be that he breathes fire above him.

If the three taunts for each of the characters each include basically the same three different personalities of taunting; Taunt, Intimidate, Silly (for example Bowser Dancing, and Peach's "lalalalala").

What would a "silly" taunt for Charizard be like I wonder? Some of the taunts in Brawl might actually be pretty fun this time around having three for each character, and so many characters.

 

[CodeBlack]

I think you're confusing "Heavy" with "Sluggish"

Heavy: Flies less when hit, does more damage when attacking, jump height may or may not be as high as others.

Charizard is definitely heavy. In the games the three 3rd Forms of the starters were some of the heaviest (One of the many things PokeDex tells you is weight) in the game, the heaviest being Venusaur (i think), surpassed only by Onix, Snorlax, and Mewtwo...

Sluggish: Not agile. Attacks slowly, etc...

Ike is Sluggish, but, if I'm to believe what I've heard, he's not all that Heavy.
Prime examples of characters who is Heavy but not Sluggish (not a smasher), would probably be T-Hawk and Sagat from Street Fighter, though it's not the same thing...

Since Sluggishness and Heaviness usually go hand in hand in fighting games, especially in the Smash games, I can see where you're coming from (which is why the heavy smashers tend to have somewhat bad reputations), but remember that Brawl is a new game, with most things being optimized, so it may not be necessarily so.

 

[geemann2236]

He will be heavy because he is big, fat, and looks sort of like Bowser. He's also big. And heavy. He will be heavy because he is bigger than all of the other guys, and is fat......

THE END!

 

[geemann2236]

I hope he's heavy, because a heavy character + gliding/flying(multiple jumps maybe?) would be awsome.

Ridley would make a perfect example of one of these guys. High five.

 

[Mr. Sunny Patch]

Charizard will probably just end up being a flying Bowser.

 

[Pikazilla]

Charizard is 200pounds. How is that not heavy?

 

[GreenKirby]

Charizard is 200pounds. How is that not heavy?

It isn't.

That's like the weight of the average grown man. Or did you mean 2,000

Donkey Kong is like 800 lbs (revealed in DK64)

Charizard is also only 5'7" (Cool, I'm the same height as him)

So it's big and heavy by Pokemon standards and average by humans standards

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Charizard is a Middleweight Pokemon.

But going by Smash logic, I'm guessing he'll be a tad heavier than average when it comes to fighting in Brawl.

 

[SolidSonic]

Cuz he eats so many d@mn fruit cakes, pokman just can't get enough of em.

 

[FalcoChamp]

He's gotta be heavy. Ivysaur medium and squirtle light. It makes him dominate

 

[royinator]

If the three taunts for each of the characters each include basically the same three different personalities of taunting; Taunt, Intimidate, Silly (for example Bowser Dancing, and Peach's "lalalalala").

What would a "silly" taunt for Charizard be like I wonder? Some of the taunts in Brawl might actually be pretty fun this time around having three for each character, and so many characters.

maybe he goes to sleep like in the series, when he wouldn't obey ash

 

[Pikazilla]

It isn't.

That's like the weight of the average grown man. Or did you mean 2,000

Donkey Kong is like 800 lbs (revealed in DK64)

Charizard is also only 5'7" (Cool, I'm the same height as him)

So it's big and heavy by Pokemon standards and average by humans standards

Many pokemon are lighter than they should be. Wailord, 44ft long and about 15ft wide, is only 800lbs while an elephant is about 25,000lbs and 14ft tall.

 

[FalcoChamp]

Many pokemon are lighter than they should be. Wailord, 44ft long and about 15ft wide, is only 800lbs while an elephant is about 25,000lbs and 14ft tall.

Yea Pokemon aren't dense I suppose. Ahhhhh well. But I still think he should be heavy. I mean you still got ivysaur and squirtle

 

[Super_alex2]

Whats your point?

 

[KazenoZ]

Let me bring up a quote I raised in a convo with my friend.

Me: As much as I'd like to play PT for he's uniqueness, I just hate the idea of him being slow
Friend: Why do you think he's slow
Me: Well, Charizard is a dinosaur and is big, Ivysaur is a medium sized pokemon but is a plant, and the only pokemon he has which is in a small size scale is a effin' turtle.
Friend: XD
Me: Rather than asking why I think he would be slow, you should be asking the exact opposite, why wouldn't he? ><

Another reasoning is that he has a glide move, he has to be atleast medium speeded, otherwise he would be an unfair character.(MetaKnight and Pit were proven mid speeded from the demo)

 

[FalcoChamp]

my point was that ivysaur is gonna be medium and squirtle light. Charizard heavy. You got all types of characters in one

 

[Turbo Grafx-16]

In the game it never says speed mean's walking speed. Swellow (A bird with 125 base speed) probably isn't that fast by waddling around on two stubby legs, I figure it's the same with Charizard, he has wing's and can glide so why make him a fast runner or attacker?

 

[Shiny Ivysaur]

Because in the game he weighs almost 200 pounds.

 

[Turbo Grafx-16]

Because in the game he weighs almost 200 pounds.

But he has no leg's, he has feet and ankle's, how could he possibly run fast? I figure he will move like Bowser does without looking like he has a scooter under him.

 

[MysticKenji]

But he has no leg's, he has feet and ankle's, how could he possibly run fast? I figure he will move like Bowser does without looking like he has a scooter under him.

He wasn't responding to you >_>

 

[Turbo Grafx-16]

He wasn't responding to you >_>

I've seen a few of those "Zard is 200 pound's" post's before, I was using the most recent to make my point that it doesn't matter how much he weigh's but I think I am off topic, it's not about speed.

On Topic, I believe he will be heavy because of how he looks, regardless of his game weight, did I clear any of my point up or make it more confusing?

 

[RoxasXIII]

when charizard moves, it should work like mewtwos. he'll fly just barely off the ground when moving, so much that his feet still drag on the ground.

 

[FalcoChamp]

when charizard moves, it should work like mewtwos. he'll fly just barely off the ground when moving, so much that his feet still drag on the ground.

ok...no
He should just be a heavy character

 

[Coen]

Ok, this is ridiculous. The games have always been waaaayy different from stuff like the anime and smash. Remember Mewtwo was the worst character in Melee? X_x And in the anime, how the hell do stuff like Charmander win against pokemon that are considered top tier in the Pokemon metagame? You can't base his Smash properties off that.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

If you read your Pokedex, you would know he would be a heavyweight by how much charizard weighs, not to mention his belly.

 

[Coen]

Charizard: 199.5 lbs

Mewtwo: 269.0 lbs

O_o And to think Mewtwo was lightweight in Melee.

Although, weight isn't the only factor that determines how fast you die *in Melee*. It is also decided by your personal floatiness, which differs for a lot of characters. Mewtwo was pretty floaty and not too heavy, which is why he died pretty soon in comparison with other characters. Samus might have been one of the heaviest characters in the game, but her floatiness killed a lot of her survivability. Understand?

And about Charizard: He might be heavyweight, but there is no saying he really will be. But yeah, he LOOKS heavy.

 

[geemann2236]

Charizard looks like he's heavy. He prolly will be because Squirtle is light, Ivysaur is light, so Charizard will prolly be heavy. It would be balanced.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Charizard: 199.5 lbs

Mewtwo: 269.0 lbs

O_o And to think Mewtwo was lightweight in Melee.

Although, weight isn't the only factor that determines how fast you die *in Melee*. It is also decided by your personal floatiness, which differs for a lot of characters. Mewtwo was pretty floaty and not too heavy, which is why he died pretty soon in comparison with other characters. Samus might have been one of the heaviest characters in the game, but her floatiness killed a lot of her survivability. Understand?

And about Charizard: He might be heavyweight, but there is no saying he really will be. But yeah, he LOOKS heavy.

This is mainly because Mewtwo levitated all the time so he was made lighter than he actually is.