I'm by no means asserting I know what the worst match ups are. I'm going to list some reasons I *think* why the match-ups are bad, so maybe somebody can correct me. I wanted to open a discussion so we can all learn how to beat some of these:
Young link!!:
his nair does a pretty good job of beating nair and fair. Unless you can space a bair it's really hard to challenge.
Approaching from above is just asking for death
Approaching side has been best for me. trying to clash with his boomerang and crouch under arrow. Limited success. I have yet to actually beat a young link in a set.
Footage:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/346455210?t=3h12m30s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUJxxBaXfgU
https://youtu.be/qX5EOoahVqg?t=317
Cloud?:
Too easy for him to start a combo chain. His fast disjoint moves beat aerials. His seemingly lack of landing lag makes it difficult.
Best hope is to get this guy off stage. Good luck
Footage: (admittedly i think performed particularly poorly here):
https://youtu.be/qX5EOoahVqg?t=570
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OKAY this next one I really want advice on. I feel like I might have been just bad and he was good. But on reviewing the footage I couldn't find my way around it:
Zelda???:
I have had a really hard time trying to counter phantom. Phantom can stand there all intimidating and ready to pounce, and she can cover your air options with a uair which has a HUGE hitbox. As a mix up i think you can do a diagonal air dodge when she goes for the uair and chase her on the ground.
i don't feel like kirby's combos against her are good enough to make up for the fact that when she's at a distance, it's just soooo hard to get in.
Her disjoint smash, jab, and dash attach don't make her a pushover in short range either
Footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtjOpyecrNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKnnQ6yVsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixN60zfwRX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snQyjHCJmEw
Young link!!:
his nair does a pretty good job of beating nair and fair. Unless you can space a bair it's really hard to challenge.
Approaching from above is just asking for death
Approaching side has been best for me. trying to clash with his boomerang and crouch under arrow. Limited success. I have yet to actually beat a young link in a set.
Footage:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/346455210?t=3h12m30s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUJxxBaXfgU
https://youtu.be/qX5EOoahVqg?t=317
Cloud?:
Too easy for him to start a combo chain. His fast disjoint moves beat aerials. His seemingly lack of landing lag makes it difficult.
Best hope is to get this guy off stage. Good luck
Footage: (admittedly i think performed particularly poorly here):
https://youtu.be/qX5EOoahVqg?t=570
.......................................
OKAY this next one I really want advice on. I feel like I might have been just bad and he was good. But on reviewing the footage I couldn't find my way around it:
Zelda???:
I have had a really hard time trying to counter phantom. Phantom can stand there all intimidating and ready to pounce, and she can cover your air options with a uair which has a HUGE hitbox. As a mix up i think you can do a diagonal air dodge when she goes for the uair and chase her on the ground.
i don't feel like kirby's combos against her are good enough to make up for the fact that when she's at a distance, it's just soooo hard to get in.
Her disjoint smash, jab, and dash attach don't make her a pushover in short range either
Footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtjOpyecrNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKnnQ6yVsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixN60zfwRX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snQyjHCJmEw