Unvote Vote J
J baby, how's it hangin? Ready to lynch Ruy? Am I still scum? How's that Circus guy lookin?
Unvote Vote Ruy
RR? Meh, I'd rather go Gord or Gheb from what I have super fast read. Circus I love as usual and I really hope he forgives me for the backstabbing I did to him pri badly in Mafia Royal Sleepover.
I know J is a very intelligent player so i sorta expect more from his cases. Theres been 300 posts since his last vote, and even with that vote there was some disagreement between the two hydra heads. I hope to see some better play coming soon and more stances since there shouldnt be any disagreements going on internally (-1 head).
@J: who do you think is the play of the day? who do you have the weakest read on? ask them some questions and then update your read.
I never presented a case. ^^" Thanks for the compliment buuuut I haven't done pretty much anything this game. Who do I think is the play and who I want as the play are two very different things. The play will most likely be either myself or RR. Who I want are Gord and Gheb. Weakest read on would probably be Shin because I just think she is amusing to watch post. Uhm, If I see anything pressing to her I'll ask her but till then, I'm good.
Kay now it is time to get to a wall. Btw, EE, massive buddying coming your way.
P51. I think it's J playing during this stretch, and based on that replacement, it's probably been all J all the time. You know what doesn't feel all J all the time to me, though? J getting turbowagoned to L-2 and being all chill about it. Yes, it's D1, and everything he said in this post itself is probably valid.
J has only played like when the game first opened, the rest of the game the only person that posted on the Hydra was Zen and Zen had been doing everything. Also EE you haven't been here in a while. I am usually lax about votes being put into hammer range simply because people like lynching me JUST because they think walls are scummy aaand because lynching me is apparantly fun.
EE said:
If he really thought Gheb was trying to kill him, especially in a preordained manner unrelated to either's alignment, he should be worrying. It would be justified. This would be weird to me for any player, but J? J, the AtE guru? What the ****?
People told me to stop playing the AtE game but now people want me to play the AtE game more? I just can never win with anyone. I don't even try to AtE and bleck. Anyways, Gheb has tried to push a QL on me before. Zen was the one who was angry about it.
P52. That would have bothered me too... except he was responding to a pointed question about that very subject. A question
asked by Laundry. Declining to answer in a non-scummy manner would have been just as obvious as outright saying it.
Vibe: Stupid question, don't really like it.
EE said:
P71. There's the AtE I was waiting for -- where the hell was it when he thought Gheb was trying to kill him for no reason? Surely the fact that Gheb was doing other stuff and Ryker wasn't yet doesn't diminish that fact!
Vibe: "what is this I don't even". He's at L-1 so the AtE should increase for either alignment of J, but it just skyrockets instead when he's put in proper peril.
That was Zenny-zen.
EE said:
More AtE, but then suddenly 180 degree turn?
Vibe: "what is this I don't even". Hard to conjecture the motivation in the attitude shift other than "if I act like I'm not in peril people will unvote me", perhaps.
This I'll take credit for finally but I didn't think that was alot of AtE if any at all. Also, I know the calm and collected routine doesn't get people off but instead, seems to fuel them.
EE said:
P81. Most reads are wonky -- way too ****in' early for reads on Nabe or Choice. Ryker read understandable -- he's championing a wagon to the exclusion of other stuff (right now at least), and I wouldn't expect J to cognitively appreciate the fact that Ryker always does gambity **** like this and that it is null. Add in the OMGUS factor and the vote is solid -- in a J kind of way, that is.
Gheb read is "what is this I don't even" for reasons already elaborated upon.
Vibe: See above. Also lmao @ "take my words as fact". And why the 180 turn yet again on living/dying?
Zen again but anyways. I actually do appreciate Ryker's gambits as he has pulled them before and we have worked together.
EE said:
Addendum: Seems the "other head" posted there. Guessing that's Zen since he's chillaxed about the wagon. Endorses the reads. Dunno how to feel about that.[/i]
J was relaxed, Zen was quite livid at first.
EE said:
P123. Gandhi has again told him to do some of his own scumhunting or start his own wagon. He also offers that Axel join him on a Choice wagon. What does J do? ...he... johns about not voting prior to consultation. Jesus Christ. Like I don't know what the deal is with the Celebrity Mafia johns, and I cbf to check them out right now, but that's about the most inefficient BS I've ever heard in my life. In m/lylo, sure. Absolutely. On day ****ing one, to start a wagon or put a second vote on one? Who gives a ****?
This just feels like a way to avoid doing things. Especially since he could still scumhunt and/or start a wagon without voting. They're called words. I hear J likes to use them. For better or for worse, I summarize J with the word "proactive". And I'm not seeing one ****in' iota of it here.
Vibe: Do not like
Meh, there is really nothing too too much to say because well Celebrity mafia we go so strewn with out votes and thoughts that we ended up losing the game for town when it was incredibly crucial. "Proactive"? Hmm never been called that but I like it.
EE said:
Addendum: Oh looks like that was Zen. My points still stand. In fact, all that really changes is that the sincere AtE I was expecting from J pages ago wasn't tardy at all, just nonexistent.
Yup you had it correct, nonexistent cuz I was nonexistent lol.
EE said:
Addendum: Alright, now I get it. Bold is J. Unbold is Zen. My points apply still apply, though.
I really don't know because I don't think I worked together on a post with Zen, well wait lemme fix that statement, I never did work with Zenny on a post.
EE said:
P155. To the first point, the point of it from a newbtown POV could be "this guy is voting me and I don't understand why maybe if he asks me some questions I could dissuade him." And J should know this. You don't blindly apply common things to every single relevant situation in mafia. Mafia is psychology, ffs, not math. J's certainly right about dat OMGUS though.
With the second paragraph, J gets at a scummy post for all the wrong reasons. People go for their backup lynches literally all the time, it doesn't mean they have no reasons for them.
This is astonishing. I've never seen two people argue and have them both look scummier as it goes on.
Vibe: See above.
Zen again. Why do you keep saying me? ;_; But then I do have to now take credit for all he did and all he said.
Anyways at the end of this I really really really like EE. However I think he is wrong on what could be considered meta of me to be able to read since he got it opposite almost every time. *shrug* What to do? Anyways, personally, EE can live forever as of now and I am gonna be like his little leech just following whatever he does because of how astounded I am by him at this time.
Gheb are you honestly still hung up about the fact that I write long posts?
I would have thought you'd get over that **** by now because I obviously get things done.
No he hasn't gotten over when people long post, now he just gets a following and lynches them for it. Trust me...I know your pain. T_T
Not intentionally but yea, I'll give ya this.
Saw J post around, hope he has time to post a bit.
I really dislike when people do this.
Kay finally read and caught up I believe I really don't have that much pressing to ask until I get home later maybe buuuuut yea here's some reads I like atm.
Town
Evil Eye
WL
Soupa
Circus
Afro
Null
Ryker
Shin
Choice
Red Ryu
Ran
Scummy
Gord
Gheb
I'll extrapolate why but I'm just gonna say this reminds me alot of Discworld w.r.t. Gheb.
***Btw to all those who think you should like Gheb because of his posting restriction, go check Discworld out. He faked a posting restriction till he was bussed by his scum-mate for the win.***
I also don't care for his hypocrisy with disliking long posts with apparant fluff because that is pri much all he is doing. Yes, to give him some credit he does seem to have points in there buuuuut the majority of his posts are just fluffed up bleck.
With Gord? I really don't care for what he has been posting throughout this game and something's buggy me w.r.t. him that I want to look into more when I have the time.
Till then I am gonna leave my vote up in the air till I can decide on one of Gord/Gheb to persue.
