General Discussion & Character Rankings

tedeth · Jun 27, 2009

*sigh*

Fine. I'm wrong. Snake's aerials are amazing. He's totally amazing in the air. Hardest character in the game to juggle. Happy now?

Attila_ · Jun 27, 2009

hes aerials are good when hes coming down from high above (although nades are better). hes aerials suck as an approach or coming back from the ledge.

:D

Ant1 · Jun 27, 2009

Lol that is exactly what i was gonna post shmot, but i thought this was ur argument so i let u have it

tedeth · Jun 27, 2009

@ Attila: I disagree.

@ Ant:

Ugh.

Ugghhhhh!

UUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Kill yourself.

Browny · Jun 27, 2009

Sonic mains that use down-b as their only approach and spam spring-dair are not '****'

b-revering greandes in mid-air is completely broken.

y so srs ted? u didnt exactly put up a very strong argument. at least elaborate on your points before giving up and resorting to sarcasm :/

luke_atyeo · Jun 27, 2009

yeah I'm not gonna argue the general situation but against characters like wolf, snake's aerials are paper to the flame.

ted is right, snake has to dance around wolf in the air, but cant go head to head with him

tedeth · Jun 27, 2009

Ok I'll elaborate. I'm not arguing that snake doesn't have options when he is above someone. Wavebouncing grenades is amazing for sure I'll agree with that. But saying that using his aerials from above against a character who is good at juggling with uair and a player who times their uair well is just ridiculous.

If someone came to me and asked me "What is something I can do against snake with wolf?" I would answer, "Get him in the air, get below him and time your uair to beat his airdodges".

The fact is that snake's hitbox on all aerials he could use from above is pretty much his hurtbox aswell. This means that any character with a disjointed hitbox can beat them.

Shaya · Jun 27, 2009

djbrowny said:
Sonic mains that use down-b as their only approach and spam spring-dair are not '****'

This reminds me of a certain Sonic when I play him on wifi in 3/4 ways with Ant included.....
Oh, and in person too. :laugh:

Snake gets juggled; just not as easily as he used to be. But why bother to juggle him; it's better to keep him low so you can **** his recovery off stage...

Attila... In your match against Chris in Melbs...

He didn't even try to juggle you, all he did was wait for the nade to explode inbetween your nade camping and punish with tornado, dtilts and baited rolls to hit with dsmashes.

About the only times you hit him was when he decided to actually approach while you had a nade out (opposed to waiting) or from a misspaced aerial.
Lucky for you for every 5-10 hits MK has on Snake, Snake only needs maybe 2 or 3 to cover the damage difference.

In other words he didn't need to try to juggle you; he let you flail around, let you STAY AT stage height, then just shuttle looped you when you were off stage when you weren't bothered to C4 yourself to avoid the shuttle loop cypher ****.

EverAlert · Jun 27, 2009

djbrowny said:
Sonic mains that use down-b as their only approach and spam spring-dair are not '****'

Well then, it's fortunate I don't know any Sonic players like that. If I did I may have mistaken them for actually being good, thanks for the tip!

Toby. · Jun 27, 2009

ITT: Delicious lols.

DELICIOUS.

On another note, I think when Team Australia makes top 8 in genesis we should get points in the Aus rankings as well

Zero · Jun 27, 2009

That's not fair, the base points would probably be more than half the characters on the list ;-;

Shaya · Jun 27, 2009

tcranter said:
ITT: Delicious lols.

DELICIOUS.

On another note, I think when Team Australia makes top 8 in genesis we should get points in the Aus rankings as well

Agreed.

ten hundred agreements.

We'll see though... lol.

"400 entrants"

$40+ entry...

even if one of us get 7th it will be like instant no.1 (or maybe no.2 coz of meta hax)

Browny · Jun 27, 2009

Oh god I hope someone busts out pit as their secret CP at genesis and owns everyone and makes him god tier in this list

Jupz · Jun 27, 2009

Lol shaya

it'd be so cool if someone from here got top 8.

Attila_ · Jun 27, 2009

tedeth said:
Ok I'll elaborate. I'm not arguing that snake has options then he is above someone.

soz, this was what i was arguing. in which case, snakes aerials do really suck.

Toby. · Jun 27, 2009

attila you know it was a typo. why bother even mentioning it? :/

Attila_ · Jun 27, 2009

typo? not sure what youre talking about... i just admitted i misunderstood what he said. thats it.

Toby. · Jun 27, 2009

oh soz i thought you were quoting his sentence out of context, since he accidentally said the opposite of what he was arguing due to epic typos

my bad!

tedeth · Jun 27, 2009

Yeah I mistyped. Too many things going though my head at once...

Anyway you get what I meant!

lol toby. Epic typos indeed. :S

Toby. · Jun 27, 2009

<3

ted get hyped for AN AMAZING NIGHT OF SMASH prior to flying to america.

fun times await :D

luke_atyeo · Jun 27, 2009

yeah whats the deal with that?

Toby. · Jun 27, 2009

I'm not entirely sure. As long as we play lots of smash, don't sleep much and catch our plane the next day we should be fine.

Zero · Jun 28, 2009

There's plenty of time to sleep on the plane :D

OR you could even play smash on the plane!

EverAlert · Jun 28, 2009

inb4 an entire row full of snoring smashers.

In some ways I sure am glad I'm taking a flight the week after... gonna be so bored though. :/

tedeth · Jun 28, 2009

In some ways... I am also glad you are taking a flight the week after.

lol jk EA you're a champ.

Shaya · Jul 1, 2009

Being our quietest Brawl month since February of this year, June was slightly disappointing. With over all lower turnouts throughout the month, and only four tournaments, we are shaping up to continue this trend for at least into next month (July) whilst Australia's major east coast tournament organisers (CAO, Vyse, tedeth, Luke and maybe myself) are all overseas for Genesis. This month also did not have any Queensland tournaments; but at least this won't be the same for next month's WinterSmash, as well as Perth not holding any either.

In retrospect we can account for lower turnouts due to the busy exam period for many of the Smashers at university, and also the coincidence of our TOs having unavoidable circumstances holding them back.

I hope everyone enjoys Smash whilst we're away representing Australia in the United States; I hope you wish us good luck, and hope to see you all again soon. Most likely at Rocky this October.

-Shaya

June 2009 (4 tournaments)

= "We love Smashville" 07/06/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7558082&postcount=1187
Entrants: 18. Entry: $20.

1 Shaya (Marth, Dedede)
2 Tedeth (Wolf, Wario)
3 tcranter (Pokemon Trainer)
4 luke_atyeo (Snake)
5 zero (Zero Suit Samus)
5 S.D (Diddy Kong, Pit)
7 Gords (Diddy Kong)
7 Scoot (Meta Knight)

= "StreekGeek 1v1 Brawl" 12/6/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7605989#post7605989
Entrants: 22. Entry: $9.

1 DJBrowny (Sonic, Snake)
2 Ant (Ganondorf)
3 Desert Eagle (Fox, Donkey Kong)
4 Asura (Mr. Game & Watch)
5 W150 (Olimar, Kirby)
5 Apollo (Zero Suit Samus)
7 2SXC Dave (Marth, Pikachu)
7 Woodstar (Kirby)

= "Ant's a Douche" 14/06/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7613771&postcount=2232
Entrants: 15. Entry: $15.

1: Meteor (Ness, Lucas)
2: Scoot (Snake, Falco)
3: S.D (Diddy, Dedede)
4: Tedeth (Wolf)
5: Luke (Snake)
5: Scar (Meta Knight)
7: Zero (Zero Suit Samus)
7: Bjay (Wario)

= "Stigma-B" 28/06/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7747128&postcount=3289
Entrants: 34. Entry: $5.

1. Tibz (Diddy kong)
2. Earl (Meta Knight)
3. Splice (Game and Watch)
4. Toshiba (Diddy Kong)
5. Nixernator (Zero Suit Samus)
5. Tanman (Sonic)
7. Devil (Wolf)
7. Nicks (Meta Knight)

= "Stigma-B" Low tier 28/06/09 =
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7749013&postcount=3294
Entrants: 19. Entry: $5. Banned: 8%.

1. Attila (Lucas, Samus)
2. Jei (Yoshi, Jigglypuff)
3. T-Rex (Captain Falcon)
4. Viva (Mario)
5. Ugly (Ganodorf)
5. Joey Joey Joe Joe (Pokemon Trainer)
7. Tibz (Mario, Link)
7. Edge Games (Ike)

Toby. · Jul 1, 2009

Good luck in America!

I hope you guys have fun

Jupz · Jul 1, 2009

Yeah have fun

S.D · Jul 1, 2009

tcranter said:
Good luck in America!

I hope you guys have fun

Aren't you going anymore Toby?

Zero · Jul 1, 2009

Awww yeah, ZSS moves up 8 places. High five, Nix, but our work isn't done yet.

I thought you were going too, Toby. And Shaya, are you implying that you aren't going anymore either?

Browny · Jul 1, 2009

Ugh... I cant keep Lucario up by myself while having to rep Sonic as well! need moar halp guys.

Ganons new rank is almost as amazing as his buffs in Balanced Brawl lol...

Zero · Jul 1, 2009

Brawl+, balanced, lol.

That's like saying Smash 64 is balanced because everyone is equally broken.

Didn't realise there was ANOTHER mod project.

Browny · Jul 1, 2009

whos talking about brawl+ here?

Vyse · Jul 1, 2009

Balanced Brawl is different to Brawl+
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=239604

I'd love to give it a go.

Sieg · Jul 1, 2009

Brawl + is better. Have fun on your 21 hour long flight people. I bet you will.

Shaya · Jul 1, 2009

14-15 hour flight... thank you very much.

Sieg · Jul 1, 2009

Oh right.

Still, have fun.

Lol.

Seriously though, you'll be bored as ****.

Nixernator · Jul 1, 2009

13. Zero Suit Samus (0 wins, 1 top2, 0 top4, 6 top8) - 32.76 [2.51%] ~ +8 ~
Apollo, Zero, and Nix. Smash bros superheros.

Browny · Jul 1, 2009

--edit--

ignore this >_> ill think of something meaningful to put here later

M · Jul 1, 2009

Nixernator said:
13. Zero Suit Samus (0 wins, 1 top2, 0 top4, 6 top8) - 32.76 [2.51%] ~ +8 ~
Apollo, Zero, and Nix. Smash bros superheros.

That's nothing me and Attila haven't done for Lucas. =P

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