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HERB discussion Thread *NEW STUFF FIRST POST*

Vilt

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To make the experience and to make HERB the best **** in NC. I need some feedback from Atl South. There is only 30 days left till HERB! GET HYPED!

Mods if this doesn't belong here just move it to where it should. I would do this in the HERB thread but things just get outta hand sometimes. So I wanted more focus.

So certain things I would like to discuss:

1. D3's infinite: Ban or Not.
2 Price increase: Should entry fee be $15 bucks instead of $10
3: Brawl rules in general. (I don't really play Brawl so need help on this ****.)
4: Counterpick stages.
5. Top 2 or 3 of pools? (Hiatus)
6. Five way split of pot?
7. Dates for HERB 2, August or Nov.?
8 Japanese ledge rule, 70 or 80?
9. Pools are ready for the peoples that I know are coming. Should I post them?

Now I need any and all input. I want to go in order of the list I got up.


Current Discussion: 6-9

Thanks bros.
 

Ragnar0k

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The infinite works on ~ 1/7 of the cast.

It also fits certain criteria as a glitch that, “Causes the opponent to lose control of his/her character.”
 

Vilt

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Really? Wow. Alright. Let's see what other bros say. I want to consider everyone.

I added counterpick stages to the list above. Thanks Rag.
 

onlymaskde

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A Brawl+ tournament would undoubtedly be a waste of time. The majority of people there (aside from the NC Brawl+ cockriders) won't be interested in playing it.

If people want to bring setups of it for friendlies, sure.

I know you wanted to discuss the list in order, but whatever.
 

BEHR

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No brawl+

D3 Banned if its standing I guess I dont care for brawl so yeah.
 

T3h Albino

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dont ban et D:
lol the cg d3 has on bowser and dk is a walking cg
well you can walk it its a tiny tiny tiny step but if you do it continuously you will get to the end of the stage.....so?
 

stingers

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Ban DDD's Standing Infinite. Infinites against walls are okay cuz lol if you got your *** grabbed against a wall fucin bnub
 

Dr Peepee

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I really don't like infinites in general (even small stepping forward ones apparently...), but I don't feel like going to those massive threads to find a good argument that supports my feelings.

I think entry fee should go up.

Billfest rules....I dunno.

What stages are being considered for CPs?

Brawl+ doesn't seem worth the hassle imo.
 

stingers

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just do brawl+ as a side tourney like billfest

free entry, no pot unless people feel like donating towards it.
 

T3h Albino

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It is a standing infinite on DK. Small step infinite should be banned as well.
actually you can both infinite and small step cg both bowser and dk
while mario samus and luigi can only be infinited
the small step cg is not an infinite because as stated before
it will end
 

Ragnar0k

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That doesn't make it not gay. It also sways a somewhat close matchup ridiculously in D3's favor.
 

Dark Hart

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I say ban the standing infinite, but the chain-grab should be allowed, even if performed against a wall.

If I'm right, the standing infinite can be done on Samus, Mario, Luigi, DK, and Bowser; but you can still chain-grab Samus, Mario, DK, and Bowser.
 

Zero_Gamer

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I support the King Dedede infinite because we have the ability to counterpick, but I won't go into a huge discussion about it.

Oh and King Dedede can't infinite Samus and Luigi until around 50% because his grab range(?)/ grab speed(?) gets stale and he has to refresh with jabs.

The tiny step CG on Bowser is basically an infinite, since Bowser will be at like 200-300% before getting to the edge.

Donkey Kong and Mario is a standing infinite and honestly, the only characters that actually see enough tournament play to be affected is DK and a little Luigi.

Maybe we could establish a different rule, where someone must state they are using King Dedede (against a main that can be infinited) and then the other person can change accordingly, but keep the infinite legal for counterpicks in which the opponent can not choose so? (Experiment with this rule at Billbill?)
 

Collective of Bears

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Ban it. Saying this because I'm a Bowser main myself, and let's face it. Nobody wants to lose because of a fat penguin sitting on you.
 

Vilt

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Alright. D3 infinite will banned. Small stepping is just an excuse to do it. Plain and simple


BEHR: Anything infinite should be banned. xD *Flamethrower*

xD Behr too good.
 

Vilt

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Next topic bros. Should we change the price to $15? I know that people lack monies due to **** head running the government.

I say we should. Only just because I just got a jobz xD.

Talk bros.
 

mr.fizwidget

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yeah raise singles entree fee but keeps doubles entry fee low, this will still promote oos interest but allow people to enter both events without hurting the wallets too much.
 

OmniOstrich

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Standing infinites and chain grab release infinites should be banned.

I support $15 singles and $20/team doubles.


Neutral

Battlefield
Final Destination
Smashville
Yoshi's Island


Counterpick
Brinstar
Castle Siege
Delfino Plaza
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Pokémon Stadium 1


Borderline
Frigate Orpheon
Norfair
Rainbow Cruise
Pictochat
Jungle Japes*


Banned

Green Greens
Corneria
Luigi's Mansion

*I think Japes should be banned, although the River God comes at specific times, he comes very often, and it is highly unlikely a match will go with no deaths to him.
 
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