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Ice Climbers Matchup Thread*Closed*
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Smash Master
Where have you been? DDD vs DK, ever heard of it? What about Pika vs Fox? And of course, the classic Sheik vs Ganon.
The way I sea it, the Flight of Ganon would get you one surprise aerial Wizkick (down B), since people don't tend to realize how fast it is. That would knock them into the air, and who knows? Maybe you could juggle with Uair after that to rack and damage and get a stock on them.
Or they could shield grab once and take a stock on you. But at least Ganon's way is fun.
95-5.
And just so you guys know, Ganon's Utilt is considered much more useful than his Dsmash.
Bnzaaa
Smash Ace
I only stated that Down-Smash hits on both sides
. I should have mentioned why it's never used. Down-Smash doesn't work any differently on us than it does on other characters.I agree with Up-Tilt having more use than Warlock Punch or Down-Smash now that I think about it. I listed all the uses of Up-Tilt, (except for edgeguarding.)
Sorry about that. I don't even know why I did thatLast, I noticed the systematic use of double Ns. I'll spare the link to the lecture website since these are your boards, but come on man. One N, please.
. I'll edit the post.
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
ignore the fire
Smash Journeyman
Bnzaaa, your matchup descriptions never cease to amaze me.
*starts clapping*
*starts clapping*
lain
Smash Master
RUN UP AND SHIELD GRAB.
just like for everyone else. eh eh eh.
just like for everyone else. eh eh eh.
gantrain05
Smash Master
im gonna say 100-0 ganon, just cuz he's totally awesome, chokes people, and thunderstomps the climbers brains out....and cuz i want to get some iceys mad so i can continue to laugh as i take ganons revenge by murdering them with peach.
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
i got beat by a ganon today.
99:1 ICs
99:1 ICs
i didint CG btw, i just spammed squall and got him down to 1 stock
Bnzaaa
Smash Ace
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Smash Journeyman
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has trouble with DK.
I've lost to 2 good DKs in the last 2 tourneys. =/
He's very hard to get close to, and if he separates the climbers, Nana eats a smash and usually dies.
I have trouble getting in close because I'm scared to get punished lol.
momochuu
Smash Legend
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I played Ripple's DK and it made me rethink that entire matchup...
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Yeah. T-T
Dev2000
Smash Lord
i always practice my chains and desynchs on DK and Bowser so its easy for me
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Dev2000
Smash Lord
i get the grab mostly by using a decynch with Blizzard and ice block then right after that grab or just squallhammer that works aswell
Kage Me
Smash Ace
Desynchs on DK?
I always find that DK is the worst character to desynch against. He already ***** Nana when you're synched. If Popo happens to be busy, it's like a "kill her" sign attached to his neck. And yes, he's quite capable of doing so.
Dev2000
Smash Lord
ye thats true but somehow ive never had a problem with that or its just the fact that i maybe havent played a DK thats good enough
gantrain05
Smash Master
DK gives iceys alot of trouble, hell, he gives most chars alot of trouble, he generally doesn't let people get in close enough to be grabbed himself, and his tilts and DownB **** the piss out of nana, 6 frames behind really sucks when a Dtilt > Down B is comin, and as soon as nana pops into the air it usually results in some form of gimp for the little ho.
momochuu
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You probably haven't, lol. =/
Dev2000
Smash Lord
haha according to all of you and your stories i geuss the dk's i play against just suck
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
I haven't played a good DK in tourney in a long time. The last time I did, he won the first round, and then I just started spamming well-spaced sh squall hammers and won the next three rounds pretty handily. I'm not sure if this worked just because that particular DK couldn't find a way around it or if DK really does have a hard time with squall hammer, though.
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
He definitely can, but I think he has a harder time if you always jump and then squall hammer such that you land on top of him or just behind him, which helps you get around things like ftilt and dtilt pretty easily. I bet he could still knock you out of it with utilt or something, but I'm not sure since I don't know a lot about DK in the first place.
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Smash Journeyman
I tried be tricky with my squalls, but he knocked me out of it almost every time with a tilt or a smash.
I know you're supposed to spam desynched blizzards, but if you mess up once Nana is dead. It's like Falco against the ICs... it seems like he'd do well because he can camp lasers and phantasm, but in actuality, lasers only do so much... just like blizzards only do so much...
DemonicTrilogy
Smash Lord
I just Desync blizzard since none of his moves go through it and when I can, grab him and start cging... It's a pretty easy match up if you can predict him (which is pretty easy)
Bnzaaa
Smash Ace
His Jab, all his Tilts (Reverse Up-Tilt) , B-Air, Up-B, Neutral-B, Down-B (when grounded,) F-Smash, and Down-Smash can beat out Squall Hammer.
Dev2000
Smash Lord
ye that works aswell and if you cant seem to pull THAT off then you should only attack when hes fully open and for the rest just dodge that will work to
Dark Kakashi
Smash Ace
Dev2000
Smash Lord
Why would you want to kill yourself over a game i mean how hopeless must you be to do so and if you dont have anything useful to say here then you shouldnt be here in the first place go **** some other Threads with BS and leave the IC ones alone
KKTHXBAI
Kage Me
Smash Ace
It's Lain. Were you expecting something useful? ;D
On another note, I've heard of people commiting suicide because Eternal Darkness/Silent Hill/Fatal Frame scared them so badly. To be honest, I too was scared into oblivion after playing Eternal Darkness for a night or so.
Not to the point of suicide, admittedly, but still.
...You really shouldn't play horror games at night.
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
i play lots of them at night, yet im still alive, your logic is flawed
and on DK, never played any so i have on data on it ;P
Dev2000
Smash Lord
haha thats true but killing yourself is getting waaaaaaaaaaaay to far imo
Oh and ive finally found a good dk and ye DK is a ***** when it comes to ice climbers thank god i still main kirby aswell
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Smash Journeyman
Finally people agree with me.
I asked for help on this matchup like a month ago and the overall response I got was YOU SUCK DESYNCH BLIZZARDS SQUALL SQUALL SQUALL.
It's harder than you think...
Dev2000
Smash Lord
ye it is harder then it looks everyone is like that takes no skill but when they try it they kan only fail at the dthrow N-Fair chain
YagamiLight
Smash Champion
If I may say something: The Ike boards were discussing this match, and we in fact did make a topic here to ask people to give input. We only got about 3 people to assist us, but all of those agreed (In addition to the Ike board itself) that the match was in Ike's favor, but not by much. We'd still appreciate any comments, even though we have moved on to a different character, especially considering you guys list Ike as an advantage here.
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FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
thats different. you just suck.
lolno. i lost to a ike online so i can't talk. i had trouble with this matchup first and everyone here just blew me off saying punish end lag to grab. WHAT NOW *****ES!? WHAT NOW!?
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