Bowser, Grab release thread [Flayl is a boss]

Update by next week hopefully : )

I did alot of testing and came up with many grab release's for Bowser, I in no way, copied grab release stuff from other threads, that being said. I'm still adding data, but I have alot of info right now. Characters like Metaknight and Olimar cannot ground escape from Bowser's grabs, they can only jump escape his grabs, however, if Bowser is grab jabbing the opponent and they try to escape as they're getting hit by jabs then they will ground escape from his grab. This applies for ALL characters.

Jump Grab Release: When a character breaks out of a grab jumping.
Ground Grab Release: When a character breaks out of a grab on the ground.



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[Jump Grab Release]

* means a character can only jump escape.

Bowser

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release overb

Captain Falcon

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair going offstage.

Charizard

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair

Diddy Kong

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair

Donkey Kong

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Falco

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release overb
Grab release fair going offstage

Fox

nothing

Ganondorf

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release overb
Grab release fair
Grab release upb

Ice Climbers *

Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Ike

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Ivysaur *

Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Jigglypuff *

Grab release upair
Grab release fair
Grab release bair
Grab release upb

King Dedede

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release fair

Kirby *

Grab release fair

Link

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release overb

Lucario

Nothing

Lucas *

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair
Grab release upb

Luigi *

Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Mario *

Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Marth

Grab release fair

Metaknight *

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair
Grab release upb

Mr. Game&Watch *

Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Ness *

Grab release overb
Grab release fair

Olimar *

Grab release fair

Peach

Grab release fair

Pikachu *

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair

Pit

Grab release fair

R.O.B

Grab release fair

Samus

Grab release fair

Sheik

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release fair offstage

Snake

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair

Sonic

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair

Squirtle *

Grab release chaingrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release overb
Grab release fair
Grab release upb

Toon Link *

Grab release fair

Wario *

Grab release infinite chaingrab
Grab release forwardsmash
Grab release upsmash
Grab release downsmash
Grab release overb
Grab release upb
Grab release dash attack
Grab release fair
Grab release bair
Grab release nair
Grab release dair
Grab release forwardtilt
Grab release uptilt
Grab release jab

Wolf

nothing

Yoshi *

Grab release fair

Zamus

Grab release fair going offstage

Zelda

Grab release fair

[Ground Grab Release]

** means the character has to mash out as your grabbing jabbing them in order to ground release

Bowser

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Captain Falcon

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt

Charizard

Grab release regrab
Grab release upb
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release utilt
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Diddy Kong

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Donkey Kong

Nothing

Falco

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

fox

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Ganondorf

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Ice Climbers**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Ike

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt

Ivysaur**

Grab release regrab
Grab release upb
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release utilt
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Jigglypuff**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

King Dedede

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Kirby**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Link

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Lucario

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Lucas**

Grab release regrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release upb
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Luigi**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Mario**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Marth

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Metaknight**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Mr. Game&Watch**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Ness**

Grab release regrab
Grab release dash attack
Grab release upb
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Olimar**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Peach

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Pikachu**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Pit

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt

R.O.B

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Samus

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Sheik

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Snake

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Sonic

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Squirtle**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Toon Link**

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Wario**

Grab release regrab
Grab release upb
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release uptilt
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Wolf

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release downb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release dtilt
Grab release jab

Yoshi**

Grab release regrab

Zamus

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

Zelda

Grab release regrab
Grab release overb
Grab release ftilt
Grab release jab

In order to prevent your Tilt from getting power-shielded, do one of the following:
- Tilt the control stick very slightly so Bowser won't walk/crouch before attacking;
- Use the C-stick set to "Attack";
- Buffer the Tilt in the last 10 frames of the release animation.

So giddy to post this you couldn't even look at the top 5 threads? You've been beaten to the punch. I suppose it's not a complete waste though, a lot of those seem to be missing for mrEh's list, namely the dash attacks and the aerials.

lol, I looked at his thread, it has different information, it explains all the ground escape chaingrabs and combos, this is going to have both jump escape and ground escape chaingrabs and combos. and its not stickied so I rather post a thread.

There was some1 that made a similar thread, "The Ultimate Boozer CG Guide" or something.
But as long as it helps Bowser players get better, I see no harm in this. Good Thing Pit isnt affected by many of the things there, unlike Wario..

Edit: Dangit! I wanted my 900th post to be in the Pit section! I might as well go for 1000.

Admiral Bowser said:

There was some1 that made a similar thread, "The Ultimate Boozer CG Guide" or something.
But as long as it helps Bowser players get better, I see no harm in this. Good Thing Pit isnt affected by many of the things there, unlike Wario..

Edit: Dangit! I wanted my 900th post to be in the Pit section! I might as well go for 1000.

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I saw his thread, its ok but seems to lack ALOT of information. btw ill have all my info up by tomorrow

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Great job! This should add some of that flavor to Bowser that Sakurai was talking about.

Does Lucas really have more problems than Ness?

PKNintendo said:

Does Lucas really have more problems than Ness?

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No, I still updating thou, give me some time D:

Edit: I just tested Ness again, when Ness is Jump grab released he goes higher then Lucas. So yes, there is a difference of what you can do when you jump grab release them.

Dr.Mario84 said:

Great job! This should add some of that flavor to Bowser that Sakurai was talking about.

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lol. Nice thread vexy

Vex Kasrani said:

No, I still updating thou, give me some time D:

Edit: I just tested Ness again, when Ness is Jump grab released he goes higher then Lucas. So yes, there is a difference of what you can do when you jump grab release them.

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Sweet. Thanks.

Oh, you added the dash attacks!

*thumbs up*

I guess I forgot to do that...


Merging this thread with mine would be flat out sexy.

MrEh said:

Oh, you added the dash attacks!

*thumbs up*

I guess I forgot to do that...


Merging this thread with mine would be flat out sexy.

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and smart. Seeing 2 threads discussing the same thing is.....weird

Nice Threads...needs moar char images imo

If this thread gets stickied over MrEh's I'm going to laugh out loud...

This is sticky material

Im thinking about picking up boozer as a secondary.
This helped alot. GJ

Vex Kasrani said:

It would be really sexy if this thread got a sticky :D

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I hope this or the other one gets a "sticky" !

This needs a sticky bad. The other one is good too but this takes the cake

Wow, I put the game down for a bit and I come back to learn that Bowser has acquired some significant metagame progress.

Just so I'm clear, all of these are UNBLOCKABLE or otherwise unavoidable, right?

Grab release to down+B should be Bowser's new best killing move, since it works on the majority of the cast...

It's funny: I always thought Bowser would be higher tier material if only he either had some SA or a throw that could legitimately kill and this is a roundabout way of him having that throw.

And for god's sake, someone sticky this! This is something every Bowser player NEEDS to know.

Vex Kasrani said:

Everything is unavoidable, but the second hit of Bowsers downb can be airdodged and DI'd.

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I've never been clear on this: is it a guaranteed DI/dodge or is it avoidable only depending upon damage?

I ask because I've been hit by it and been mashing air dodge but never dodged in time.

AIM is SmashHermano

No idea when I'll be free to play Brawl (likely 12-2 AM EST), but I'd definitely be willing to help test for Bowser science.

Vex Kasrani said:

but at the same time my thread has loads more information.

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Can't argue about that. *thumbs up*

If you want, I could format the information in this thread to make it look nice. Just to make myself useful ya know? Plus, I like my character images. Especially Ike's.

STICKY!!!!

EDIT:seriously though this is great and good on MrEh for being cool about this new thread

EDITi never edited this shhhhhh)

EDIT:why the hell is there a sad face i didnt mean that (real edit lol)

isn't regrabbing after a grab release automatically an infinite or do you dash grab after it. if not there's something i'm not getting.

Its not an infinite because eventually you will reach the end of the stage. Some characters can be infinited with his grab release Wario for one not sure of others, there aren't many.

oh ok i wasn't shure if bowser had to move to regrab the opponent

It's amazing why this thread isn't stickied yet...

Mods don't love Bowser. :'(


I can't even get my Bowser Video Thread stickied, despite if having a ton of vids now.

You need pictures? I actually have this entire thread with pictures, I just never got the chance to send it to you.

Problem is that I can't think of a reasonable way to send the post though...

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=201603

Seems like there's a way to get out of grounded grab release CGs...