The Peach Q & A Thread

PrepareYourself · Oct 22, 2008

This is a place where noobs (and pros) can ask questions about Peach, Peach players, or some other thing. Please keep things generally relevant to Brawl.

Please avoid creating a thread just to ask a question. Post questions here, or in the General Discussion thread.

deepseadiva · Oct 23, 2008

About time we got one of these. Though I would love it more if the title was summarized as a simpler "The Peach Q & A Thread".

Just a suggestion though.

So here's a question to instantly gain +3 pages. Who is better, Dark.Pch or Niko_K?

Rickerdy-doo-da-day · Oct 23, 2008

Meno, you're clearly a glutton for punishment.

I like this thread

Morrigan · Oct 23, 2008

I thought the Peach General Discussion/Chatroom was the one? =p

Zankoku · Oct 23, 2008

MenoUnderwater said:
Who is better, Dark.Pch or Niko_K?

The answer to every question like this is "KoreanDJ."

Good **** KoreanDJ.

Rickerdy-doo-da-day · Oct 23, 2008

...who?

Ankoku, forgive me for my rudeness but may I ask what's with your sudden recent visit to the Peach Boards? Pure curiosity? Or is it for the next backroom discussion?

Morrigan · Oct 23, 2008

he will copyright Peach as well, go finding another main

Rickerdy-doo-da-day · Oct 23, 2008

at least let me keep my precious counter

Wow. Meno's question was technically answered in 3 pages. Good stuff guys :laugh:

EdreesesPieces · Oct 23, 2008

Good **** Korean DJ!!!!

Rickerdy-doo-da-day · Oct 23, 2008

I'm looking forward to the Peach character discussion this week...too bad I'm gonna be on holiday next week so I'll miss out and by the time I get back, everything will have been said and done

Anyways, I have a Peachy question. Sometimes, when I've hit my opponent with the 4th hit of my Dair, it sends them faceplanting into the floor. Why is this and has this happened to anyone else?

ApplesOfDoom · Oct 23, 2008

Rickerdy-doo-da-day said:
I'm looking forward to the Peach character discussion this week...too bad I'm gonna be on holiday next week so I'll miss out and by the time I get back, everything will have been said and done

Anyways, I have a Peachy question. Sometimes, when I've hit my opponent with the 4th hit of my Dair, it sends them faceplanting into the floor. Why is this and has this happened to anyone else?

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Directional_influence#Smash_DI
maybe what youre talking about?

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

Should I request a sticky?

Morrigan · Oct 23, 2008

I think the current stickies cover the necessary

BentoBox · Oct 23, 2008

-How do you approach an extremely campy ROB on, say, FD?
-Does Peach have any disjointed moves/lingering hitboxes?
-How do you perform a turnip free-pull without b-sticking?
-Where does your opponent have to stand for your d-smash to deal its max dmg (21ish)? I'm guessing you'd have to almost be overlapping. Assuming they do not DI of course.
-Is there ANY way to set-up a d-tilt spike offstage? xD
-What's the best course of action when you have a stock advantage, are close to dying yourself, and your opponent is rushing you with inv. frames? I always stand near the ledge and glidetoss turnips upwards for no particular reasons lol. Not very effective. I should try ledge camping next time, but that also sets you in an unfavorable position...
-Do we have any attacks that clank with MK's glide attack?
-How do you DI out of a Zelda's Usmash?
-How do you DI out of a tornado? Would quarter-circle DIing work?

That's all I can think of for now... :D Let's get this thread rolling~

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

BentoBox said:
-How do you approach an extremely campy ROB on, say, FD?
-Does Peach have any disjointed moves/lingering hitboxes?
-How do you perform a turnip free-pull without b-sticking?
-Where does your opponent have to stand for your d-smash to deal its max dmg (21ish)? I'm guessing you'd have to almost be overlapping. Assuming they do not DI of course.

1. Float? I can't see ROB as a camper, though.
2. Fair has more range than Marth's fair. Also, Peach Bomber can hit after like 1 second of pressing Side-B.
3. ?
4. Peach's center probably should be inside the opponent for max ownage. They DI down and even better I guess?

BentoBox · Oct 23, 2008

I edited my post~

1. ROB is like the best camper in the game lol. ROB can aim his Laser and shoot you down. He can also jump and shoot his top, forcing you to airdodge towards the ground. He doesn't have to approach you unless you have a better projectile yourself, which isn't the case. His top is also impossible to grab while its spinning on the ground, afaik (I could be very wrong).

2. By lingering hitboxes I mean, hitboxes that stay out for long~ (Lucas' Usmash being an extreme example)

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FieBCZAn_o0 Everything you perform with b-sticking you can replicate without, at the cost of a much steeper learning curve/harder execution.

Veng · Oct 23, 2008

HELP ME WITH CONTROLS

currently I: Short hop, Press down when I want to stop, Keep holding X, press down on the joystick and a at the same time WHILE HOLDING X.

I hear about this claw, and im not going to diss on it, in fact I dont know what it is, or even used it, other then I heard some one say about turning the controller, but it doesnt sound fun, let alone switching back and forth in matches.

What shall I do and what am I doing wrong?

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

Veng said:
HELP ME WITH CONTROLS

currently I: Short hop, Press down when I want to stop, Keep holding X, press down on the joystick and a at the same time WHILE HOLDING X.

I hear about this claw, and im not going to diss on it, in fact I dont know what it is, or even used it, other then I heard some one say about turning the controller, but it doesnt sound fun, let alone switching back and forth in matches.

What shall I do and what am I doing wrong?

I don't really see what's so hard. I haven't heard of claw, but here's a tip anyways;

Press and hold X with the right edge of your thumb

Tilt down when you think you are at a good height for floating. Release down.

While holding X, tilt control stick in desired aerial direction.

Press A by tilting your thumb slightly to the left. Your thumb should be able to press A while holding X, unless you have hella small hands.

If this doesn't answer your question, please specify.

BentoBox · Oct 23, 2008

The claw involves having your middle finger over R, your index over y/x and your thumb on the c-stick. Makes it much easier to perform whatever aerial whilst floating~ (Say you want to float backwards and f-air).

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

BentoBox said:
The claw involves having your middle finger over R, your index over y/x and your thumb on the c-stick. Makes it much easier to perform whatever aerial whilst floating~ (Say you want to float backwards and f-air)

That's smart. I'd like to see a guy play the whole round like that.

BentoBox · Oct 23, 2008

You don't have to use the claw throughout a whole match, but it definitely helps to switch every now and then, as it only really serves when you're floating.

edit: Actually, it does potentially make you faster at inputting other things like throwing a turnip right after jumping, etc~

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

That I know. I'm saying it'd be cool :laugh:

Q: What is BentoBox's Brawl abbreviation? Bento? BBox?

Morrigan · Oct 23, 2008

Botox .

10ch

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

Botox?

lolz

BentoBox · Oct 23, 2008

Dekuu unraveled the secret behind my silky smooth skin /blush

rocker1356 · Oct 23, 2008

I have a question. I was wondering if there is anything I could do to get some cool K.O.s or easy ones with Peach. Can you help me?

TruckOSaurus · Oct 23, 2008

I have a question about the slap->grab. Whenever I try to do it if I press A then Z in quick succession Peach will always do the double slap even though I press A only once. For slap -> grab to work I have to press A pause a bit and then press Z.

Is there a way to do it without the pause?

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

Just do AA to Dashgrab. Should work.

deepseadiva · Oct 23, 2008

PSSSST. Get rid of the "READ HERE" part of the title. That's for the "READ HERE BEFORE POSTING NEW THREAD" thread. Not the Q & A.

*is done nitpicking*

PrepareYourself · Oct 23, 2008

MenoUnderwater said:
PSSSST. Get rid of the "READ HERE" part of the title. That's for the "READ HERE BEFORE POSTING NEW THREAD" thread. Not the Q & A.

*is done nitpicking*

Thanks man. Ur my hero

BentoBox · Oct 23, 2008

TruckOSaurus said:
I have a question about the slap->grab. Whenever I try to do it if I press A then Z in quick succession Peach will always do the double slap even though I press A only once. For slap -> grab to work I have to press A pause a bit and then press Z.

Is there a way to do it without the pause?

PrepareYourself said:
Just do AA to Dashgrab. Should work.

No. The second hit will knock them too far away and they will be able to retaliate before you reach them.

Jab->DashGrab works fine at mid/high percentages. At low percentages, I've personally never had such a problem~ Try waiting for the slap animation to end before pressing Z? Just go in training mode and practice, you should get it down in no time.

RoyalBlood · Oct 23, 2008

I find myself trading hits a lot with Luigi does his priority overrides our, how do i fight him? ;_;

Razmakazi · Oct 23, 2008

if i spaced a fair correctly can characters other than d3 shield grab me?

i feel pretty noobish when non-D3 characters shield grab my fair even if I am technically still new to peachy.

now, lets say i spaced a fair correctly and i can't get shield grabbed or w/e but they shield the attack, any good follows up? throw a dtilt out there? try slaps? i have problems w/ this.

;o

rocker1356 · Oct 23, 2008

I am trying to figure out Peach. She is one of my weaker secondaries but I just cannot seem to get her moves down. I will be back later with a few more questions if this board is still here.

deepseadiva · Oct 23, 2008

rocker1356 said:
I am trying to figure out Peach. She is one of my weaker secondaries but I just cannot seem to get her moves down. I will be back later with a few more questions if this board is still here.

We're always open to helping the newbies. But yea, the Peach Board is only accessible on Thursday and Friday afternoons.

BentoBox · Oct 24, 2008

I don't know how accurate this thread is, http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=196207&highlight=grab+range, but Bowser, DK and Zelda supposedly have very long grab ranges too, and I also know for a fact Marth's is longer than ours~ If they shield the attack and are not in range to grab, you could try to go for a whatever tilt, but generally your opponent has something faster OoS than whatever you'll come up with (slap should then be your safest option) hence why I usually space myself as to not get punished, and unless your opponent runs after you right as you land, nothing that you might attempt to do will reach him and your lag might get punished if they know about Peach plays in general. Sometimes they'll just stall in their shields knowing that Peach can chain aerials into ground moves quite swiftly, which leaves me time to pull out a turnip and pressure them even more.

But really it all depends on the way your opponent behaves~ On larger characters I often chain spaced SH f-airs and float+d-air right before landing, and while they should be able to grab me out of it, their reaction time is too slow to counter my approach~

@edit: ^ Lol!

Meno answer my questions =(

deepseadiva · Oct 24, 2008

BentoBox said:
Meno answer my questions =(

I'm not too qualified to do so, but I will answer them as MENO would answer them.

BentoBox said:
-How do you approach an extremely campy ROB on, say, FD?

Plenty and plenty of turnips and a decent amount of dairs.

-Does Peach have any disjointed moves/lingering hitboxes?

Bair is rumored to be disjointed. Fair has range - but disjointed... I dunno.
Her upb is a constant hitbox when floating down.

-How do you perform a turnip free-pull without b-sticking?

In training mode, under 1/4 speed. And very carefully.

-Where does your opponent have to stand for your d-smash to deal its max dmg (21ish)? I'm guessing you'd have to almost be overlapping. Assuming they do not DI of course.

I can do 28%. I can't find the "sweetspot" though... good question.

-Is there ANY way to set-up a d-tilt spike offstage? xD

Set up? That's more tactical. But keep in mind the spike hitbox is above her hand.

-What's the best course of action when you have a stock advantage, are close to dying yourself, and your opponent is rushing you with inv. frames? I always stand near the ledge and glidetoss turnips upwards for no particular reasons lol. Not very effective. I should try ledge camping next time, but that also sets you in an unfavorable position...

Play it defensively. Or camp.

-Do we have any attacks that clank with MK's glide attack?

Toad...?

-How do you DI out of a Zelda's Usmash?

I go upwards and to the side.

-How do you DI out of a tornado? Would quarter-circle DIing work?

You can't.

Results may vary.

Veng · Oct 24, 2008

Meno, anyone? can you get on and play me and help me out? i really want to get good with peach.

rocker1356 · Oct 24, 2008

Hello. Why is the board only open on Thursday and Friday? And do any of the Peach brawlers want to play me. I want to watch a few techniques.

deepseadiva · Oct 25, 2008

Veng said:
Meno, anyone? can you get on and play me and help me out? i really want to get good with peach.

I'm open if you wanna play.

rocker1356 said:
Hello. Why is the board only open on Thursday and Friday? And do any of the Peach brawlers want to play me. I want to watch a few techniques.

It was a joke, the Peach boards will always be here.

And like I said, I'm online.

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