Official "Ask Snakeee Stuff... about Stuff" Thread

Snakeee · Dec 15, 2008

Inspired by Cort's thread, which is inspired by Cactuar's thread. Plagiarism FTW

This thread is to ask me any specific questions about ZSS, and I'll do my best to answer them. If I don't know the answer or haven't been on the boards for a while, other regulars or at least any people knowledgeable on ZSS are encouraged to answer questions in my place.

* The difference between this thread and the Q&A thread is that the questions here should be usually directed towards me. This should focus on more detailed, opinionated questions. Try and keep more general and simple questions about the character in the Q&A thread.

If there's like a page of unanswered questions, and I (or anyone else) hasn't answered any of them, PLEASE wait for those ones to be responded to before you ask your question.

Also, I'm a pretty easygoing guy, so most of the time I'll enjoy answering a joke question, but don't get carried away with that. :laugh:

Chali · Dec 15, 2008

Honest question, how did you get so good?

Sesshomuronay · Dec 15, 2008

Question 1: Doesnt this belong in another section?

Question 2: Did you know that there is already a Q+A thread?

Question 3: Do you think this zero death grab combo thing will have much use for competitive play?

Question 4: What character(or characters) do you reccomend zero suit samus players to learn as secondaries for bad matchups?

Question 5: What do you think is the one most important thing for EVERY zero suit samus player to learn and know?

nevershootme · Dec 15, 2008

here's a question on down smash...

so far from what i've noticed, using d-smash uncharged sends a small knock back of sorts, giving you the running b-air followup. but a charged one sends you farther after release.. I'm gonna need serious clarification on this cuz i was observing that yesterday. and can it be DI'd at all once you release

is u-tilt even safe at all??? I find myself spamming it too much to pop them up

Sesshomuronay · Dec 15, 2008

Question 6: What do you think about F-tilt?

Snakeee · Dec 15, 2008

Chali said:
Honest question, how did you get so good?

Practice of course, while at the same time thinking of what you can do in each situation you come across as well as coming up with possible "combos". Most people also don't realize that the best way to practice is against people that are better than you. Well, I'd say if you're not a high-end player already you should practice against someone who is better, but not far beyond your level (because otherwise you'll just be getting destroyed lol). The best practice is in tourney, the second best is friendlies against good players, after that is against computers, and the worst is wifi (although it can still be useful).

Sesshomuronay said:
Question 1: Doesnt this belong in another section?
No

Question 2: Did you know that there is already a Q+A thread?

Yes. I updated the first post to explain that

"* The difference between this thread and the Q&A thread is that the questions here should be usually directed towards me. This should focus on more detailed, opinionated questions. Try and keep more general and simple questions about the character in the Q&A thread."

Question 3: Do you think this zero death grab combo thing will have much use for competitive play?

I'm not sure what you're referring to...unless you mean the f-tilt and dash attack lock. That's not a real 0-death, but it can be useful if you start it from 0%. It won't work that often though either because f-tilt doesn't always trip.

Question 4: What character(or characters) do you reccomend zero suit samus players to learn as secondaries for bad matchups?

Well, the only match up that really gives me trouble at the moment is Falco so any character that has an advantage against him. My secondary is Sheik, and she goes about even with him.

Question 5: What do you think is the one most important thing for EVERY zero suit samus player to learn and know?

Master your recovery and spacing over everything else.

nevershootme said:
here's a question on down smash...

so far from what i've noticed, using d-smash uncharged sends a small knock back of sorts, giving you the running b-air followup. but a charged one sends you farther after release.. I'm gonna need serious clarification on this cuz i was observing that yesterday. and can it be DI'd at all once you release

is u-tilt even safe at all??? I find myself spamming it too much to pop them up

The only reason I ever charge D-smash if for mindgames, and if I anticipate an approach that I can punish easily with D-smash. Otherwise it is much better to use an uncharged d-smash so you can link two of them safely.

Up tilt is extremely useful, but you have to avoid being predictable with it. It is her best out of shield option, and as an alternative you can use d-tilt if your opponent isn't too high or behind you which has very little afterlag. D-tilt also has far more combo ability.

Sesshomuronay said:
Question 6: What do you think about F-tilt?

F-tilt is the move that I've had the biggest difference in usage since I started playing. I used to never use it, and now I use it a ton. THe most typical way to use it is if your opponent is just out of reach of a jab, and you need a very fast attack. It's speed beats what most characters can do from that range. I almost always do the downwards version of it because it can cause a trip. After the trip I usually d-tilt, or if they actually end up too far away I'll follow up with a dash attack.

canthandletheSpeculosity · Dec 15, 2008

what was the hardest set you ever fought at a tourney?

and how do you juggle ONline and OFFline and still be top zss? and do things like 2 stock m2k when he plays no online to better himself?

DeliciousCake · Dec 16, 2008

What gender am I?

Snakeee · Dec 16, 2008

canthandletheSpeculosity said:
what was the hardest set you ever fought at a tourney?

and how do you juggle ONline and OFFline and still be top zss? and do things like 2 stock m2k when he plays no online to better himself?

For the first one if you mean the hardest set that I won...well I'll have to think about that I'm really not sure. Otherwise it's either of the two occasions I played M2K :laugh:

And, I mentioned that online is the worst way to get practice and it can also throw off your game. However, I think that if you mix it up well enough and try to play more offline than online you should be fine. Another big problem is that certain strategies are much more effective online than offline. I do play a little wifi, but not as much as I used to.

DeliciousCake said:
What gender am I?

Do you really want me to answer that?

Kinzer · Dec 16, 2008

Could you?

Meh, just continue pretending im not here, if you don't mind... please.

Lame joke is lame.

Browny · Dec 16, 2008

Do you think ZSS' position on the tier list is hindered by the fact shes not actually visible on the character select screen. Ive got reason to believe less people main her by the simple fact less people know she can be picked, less users = less tourney results = affect tier placement?

Snakeee · Dec 16, 2008

Kinzer said:
Could you?

Meh, just continue pretending im not here, if you don't mind... please.

Lame joke is lame.

huh???

djbrowny said:
Do you think ZSS' position on the tier list is hindered by the fact shes not actually visible on the character select screen. Ive got reason to believe less people main her by the simple fact less people know she can be picked, less users = less tourney results = affect tier placement?

Are you serious lol? If you don't know you can pick her you probably don't play this game competitively.

The position is hindered by the fact that people's first impressions of the character are not going to be that great because things that seem to be a problem for her at first can actually be taken care of easily with some experience (like her recovery). Plus she is one of the toughest characters to learn in general.

aleman1100 · Dec 16, 2008

would you put her in a higher tier position?

be neutral

smaci92 · Dec 16, 2008

snakeee...when did you start becoming well known as a ZSS main? and how long do you practice every day???

Julz · Dec 16, 2008

Cool. Okay:

Do you think the Down B works well for avoiding projectiles when approaching characters like falco?

How often do you use her Neutral aerial? When you use the Neutral aerial, do you fastfall it to avoid the turn around or is it non-viable due to her high short hop? Do you ever hit people with the back of the Neutral aerial or is the start up too slow?

What's your favourite combo?

choknater · Dec 16, 2008

i almost wanna become (becum) a zss main simply because of deliciouscake's sexy avatar

NeoZero · Dec 16, 2008

What are your thoughts on the fox matchup?

If possible, could you also give them to the fox boards? They're revisiting ZSS and they seem to not want to hear anything that's being said to them. I also encourage everyone to at least go read what's been said about the matchup and give their thoughts on the matchup.

There's a thread somewhere on the first page containing a link to it if your interested.

ph00tbag · Dec 16, 2008

What's the best way to romance a lady?

Sesshomuronay · Dec 16, 2008

Whats better Pepsi or Coke?

Zero · Dec 16, 2008

choknater said:
i almost wanna become (becum) a zss main simply because of deliciouscake's sexy avatar

I'd become a Kannagi main because of yours :$

DeliciousCake · Dec 16, 2008

I think choknater and I have some things to discuss in private.

Kinzer · Dec 16, 2008

Grah... Sonic mainers... ~~******~~ raiding the Zero Suit boards...

Hmm... I guess I should at least make something serious out of this...

How do you feel about the matchup between Sonic and Zero Suit? I wasn't around the boards when they went over this, but they have it put down as her advantage, but in your opinion is that true? If so, just how bad do you think Sonic loses out, and why?

3xSwords · Dec 16, 2008

NeoZero said:
What are your thoughts on the fox matchup?

If possible, could you also give them to the fox boards? They're revisiting ZSS and they seem to not want to hear anything that's being said to them. I also encourage everyone to at least go read what's been said about the matchup and give their thoughts on the matchup.

There's a thread somewhere on the first page containing a link to it if your interested.

Don't try to argue with them dude, it's pointless. I looked a bit through that thread and it's ridiculous. Unless you bring 5 guys to post and tell them to stfu and actually legitimately answer your points, you're just going to get *****ed by their home field advantage, and besides it looks like they're done with the "discussion" anyway.

Question: Snakeeee who would you say is the best ZSS aside from yourself?

Snakeee · Dec 17, 2008

Sorry guys I'll answer your questions tomorrow night. I had work all day, and then I spent the rest of the night playing BlazBlue with some friends lol. Please don't ask any more questions for now.

Bouse · Dec 17, 2008

How much cocaine is too much cocaine?

Blistering Speed · Dec 17, 2008

Do you ever U Smash instead of Up B and if so in what situations?

Snakeee · Dec 17, 2008

aleman1100 said:
would you put her in a higher tier position?

be neutral

In complete honesty I believe she is lower high tier.

smaci92 said:
snakeee...when did you start becoming well known as a ZSS main? and how long do you practice every day???

Hmm. I guess it was kind of gradual, but I don't even know if I'm THAT well known at this point.

Julz said:
Cool. Okay:

Do you think the Down B works well for avoiding projectiles when approaching characters like falco?

No, the invincibility frames are too few for it to be really effective than that. In this case an airdodge is much better than Down B.

How often do you use her Neutral aerial? When you use the Neutral aerial, do you fastfall it to avoid the turn around or is it non-viable due to her high short hop? Do you ever hit people with the back of the Neutral aerial or is the start up too slow?

Not too often, my usual use for it is when grabbing an item while jumping through a platform. It's fast, and will push anyone away that tries to stop you from getting the item.

What's your favourite combo?

Well there aren't too many legitimate combos. For a legit one, either down smash to down B spike, or Up B spike to footstool.
For something really cool I've pulled off...in a friendly against Lobos at CH 4.5 I did up air - up air- up B - up air- down smash - down smash - forward air - forward B :chuckle:

I think he was at like 10% and this killed him

NeoZero said:
What are your thoughts on the fox matchup?

If possible, could you also give them to the fox boards? They're revisiting ZSS and they seem to not want to hear anything that's being said to them. I also encourage everyone to at least go read what's been said about the matchup and give their thoughts on the matchup.

There's a thread somewhere on the first page containing a link to it if your interested.

I think I posted there already, unless that was their topic on our boards. It's heavily in ZSS' favor obviously because of the d-smash chain. Without it I think it's slightly Fox's favor.

Kinzer said:
Grah... Sonic mainers... ~~******~~ raiding the Zero Suit boards...

Hmm... I guess I should at least make something serious out of this...

How do you feel about the matchup between Sonic and Zero Suit? I wasn't around the boards when they went over this, but they have it put down as her advantage, but in your opinion is that true? If so, just how bad do you think Sonic loses out, and why?

That match up keeps going back and forth for me tourney wise. One time I 3 stock Malcolm, and then the next time he wins the set o_O. That doesn't tell me what the match up really is of course. I'd say it's 6/4 ZSS.

Blistering Speed said:
Do you ever U Smash instead of Up B and if so in what situations?

Yes, I use it sometimes because of the multiple hitboxes. Most ZSS moves don't last that long and because of that your opponent might drop their shield early, and get hit by it. It also breaks d-airs better than Up B, and it's the easiest move to follow up from a double d-smash from the furthest part of the hitbox.

Sorry I didn't answer joke questions because there were so many at one time...and alright calm down with those a bit -_- ....I did enjoy them though lol

NeoZero · Dec 17, 2008

What secondary do you use, and do you find him effective against falco? (Currently looking secondary that does good against falco).

Snakeee · Dec 17, 2008

NeoZero said:
What secondary do you use, and do you find him effective against falco? (Currently looking secondary that does good against falco).

I use Sheik/Zelda...and I think it's about an even match up. They both have gay combos on each other lol. I definitely wouldn't say she's a solid counter or anything, but Falco is hard to counter anyway. His worst match up is probably G&W though.

DeliciousCake · Dec 17, 2008

Snakeee said:
Yes, I use it sometimes because of the multiple hitboxes. Most ZSS moves don't last that long and because of that your opponent might drop their shield early, and get hit by it. It also breaks d-airs better than Up B, and it's the easiest move to follow up from a double d-smash from the furthest part of the hitbox.

I'm fairly sure that U-smash can break every d-air in the game, provided you begin hitting with the first vertical hitbox.

Cancel · Dec 17, 2008

If im going to fight against a wolf, whats the best way to approach it?

Bouse · Dec 17, 2008

Why is it wrong to pee in the soup?

Snakeee · Dec 17, 2008

Cancel said:
If im going to fight against a wolf, whats the best way to approach it?

I just jump and airdodge the lasers then when I get close I usually wait for him to make a move, and I punish with jabs/tilts out of shield. If he doesn't make a move then well just do one of those anyway lol

Btw, airdodging his B-airs and B-airing him back seems to work well in this match up :laugh:

Punishment Divine · Dec 17, 2008

Do you play any other fighters? If so, mains?

Also, upset you couldn't come to our petty LI tourney where Bum ***** lol, are you going to Game Table Jan 10?

Snakeee · Dec 17, 2008

Punishment Divine said:
Do you play any other fighters? If so, mains?

Also, upset you couldn't come to our petty LI tourney where Bum ***** lol, are you going to Game Table Jan 10?

I play a little SC4 - I main Amy

I'm getting very addicted to BlazBlue already - Main = Jin Kisaragi, Secondary will probably be Rachael Alucard.

That's all I really play right now, I also wanted to get into Guilty Gear but BlazBlue is the same makers and it's pretty similar.

And yeah, I didn't go because I found a ride to Ch 4.5 which was much bigger than that. I'll see if I can make that next one.

Punishment Divine · Dec 17, 2008

Snakeee said:
I play a little SC4 - I main Amy

I'm getting very addicted to BlazBlue already - Main = Jin Kisaragi, Secondary will probably be Rachael Alucard.

That's all I really play right now, I also wanted to get into Guilty Gear but BlazBlue is the same makers and it's pretty similar.

And yeah, I didn't go because I found a ride to Ch 4.5 which was much bigger than that. I'll see if I can make that next one.

I understand, I would have gone to CH4.5 too XD

And cool, I play Guilty Gear. I haven't tried BlazBlue, I'm hearing good things though. Have you tried Tatsunoko vs. Capcom? That's all Basic Sausage was talking about at the tournament XD

jibbyjaont · Dec 18, 2008

Question: Why don't you answer Bouse's questions? lol

Seriously though, which move do you try to kill with when your side+b gets stale?

aleman1100 · Dec 18, 2008

The best and the worst of ZSS

Mew2King · Dec 18, 2008

uair/fair/bair kills, so does jumping spike

down smash -> down smash -> bair kills

Bouse · Dec 18, 2008

Okay, new question.

How many Mew2Kings does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

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