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Boxob. · Feb 11, 2009

I hit RyanK with two ASC hits, into a grab.

That's a lot of possible damage.

Discuss.

Edit- Now you! The player, can interact live with this, the Sonic boards of SWF to name a technique. Interaction at it's finest! Excitement! Action! Also, lasers and explosions.

We have way too many acronyms as it stands, so calling it ASCSCG is completely absurd. Come up with something extravagant that will sound like a super cool technique, so that when said aloud, people will think something amazing happened, instead of just an ASC>Grab.

Anthinus · Feb 11, 2009

Hmmm... How did you do that? When you hit someone with the last hit of the ASCthe opponent get a diagonal up knock back. I've tried to grab people this way but the steak is too far away to grab it... Can you detail how was it?

TwinkleToes · Feb 12, 2009

What did the knockback on the second hit look like?

AquaTech · Feb 12, 2009

I tried this on a CPU. Even they are automatically DI'd away from it.

da K.I.D. · Feb 12, 2009

he must have been playing a really heavy character too

Anthinus · Feb 12, 2009

da K.I.D. said:
he must have been playing a really heavy character too

at 0% and against a wall :laugh:

''''''''''''__,,///
,----!__!=!_)
v--==>___>

He he! I made a Falco

''''''/_ ),,_
' (__!=!_!
<<_<_,_V

Guess who's this other... He's facing right...

Browny · Feb 12, 2009

umm lol i cant make anything out of those pictures

Anthinus · Feb 12, 2009

djbrowny said:
umm lol i cant make anything out of those pictures

LOL... The first one is a Falco, he is facing left... the fist thing is the beak in the left tha have a "v" is where it beggins. Is just the head...

The other one is similar, but is facing right. The 2 of them have the Over 9000 device that space animals have in their eyes...

:laugh:

EDIT: I added some colors, maybe it can help your imagination LOL!

Boxob. · Feb 12, 2009

He was playing Kirby.

MarKO X · Feb 12, 2009

the other one is obviously fox anthius. but then again, i didn't see them without teh colors.

i like the falco better, but good job.

Edit: Boxob, were you able to duplicate that?

Tenki · Feb 12, 2009

Anthinus said:
at 0% and against a wall

''''''''''''__,,///
,----!__!=!_)
v--==>___>

He he! I made a Falco

''''''/_ ),,_
' (__!=!_!
<<_<_,_V

Guess who's this other... He's facing right...

THAT AIN'T FALCO!

''''''''''''__,,///
,----!__!=!_)
v--==>___>

oh, i c.

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This is weird lol.

Maybe he SDI'd downwards into it?

Camalange · Feb 12, 2009

Vids or something would help ;_;

Could you at least explain how it went down? Because the knockback would usually send the opponent up in to the air...

My only guess is terribad DI.

Boxob. · Feb 12, 2009

He got hit twice, got popped up a little, and I grabbed him immediately as I landed.

That's it lol.

Ayaz18 · Feb 12, 2009

wow you guys just found this out o_O

I do this a lot..........Kid seen me do it in friendlies.......member you were all like [insert black phrase here] "I didn't know you could do that?"

pretty much ASC (two hits)-> grab->Uthrow-> Uair-> Uair (if your lucky)

Camalange · Feb 12, 2009

Wow.

This is legit.

I tried recreating it just now, and it works 0_o

I have yet to get (2)hit ASC > Grab
But I've been testing on Kirby (Boxob's scenario) and have gotten (1)hit ASC > Grab

I can't believe we never noticed this.

If you come in at the right angle with ASC, you can hit at about the same time you hit the ground, in which you can go right into an ASCSC-Grab.

I'm sure the double hit is much more feasible on larger characters.

da K.I.D. · Feb 12, 2009

hmmm... i dont remember that.

we do need more 0% combos...

ive been realising more and more that sonic is a character with very little when it comes to 0% combos. as far as total damage is concerned.

i noticed this when niko played my boy court's snake in our tourney a couple weeks ago. niko pulled some falcoish mess and comboed him from 0 to about 50 on every stock all 3 games

thecatinthehat · Feb 12, 2009

da K.I.D. said:
i noticed this when niko played my boy court in our tourney a couple weeks ago. niko pulled some falco mess and comboed him from 0 to about 50 on every stock all 3 games

Yes, I believe it's called a "chaingrab".

lol jk.

SM5 has some nasty low percentage combos.

actually... he has some nasty comboes in general.

da K.I.D. · Feb 12, 2009

Peach cant chaingrab snake dipstik

Boxob. · Feb 12, 2009

da K.I.D. said:
Peach cant chaingrab snake dipstik

The way you stated it, it made it seem like Niko was playing as Falco, not against.

infomon · Feb 12, 2009

now back to our regularly-scheduled ASCSCG

If the ASC is spaced nice and you're burrowing through their shield, then grab.
But if you're actually hitting them, why wouldn't you want to just complete what you can of the ASC perfect-combo (since you're prolly in position to do so, if you think you could actually get a grab)? The SDJ + aerial could be worth more than an Uthrow.

I guess it depends. I dunno about you guys, but I'm not landing ASCs very often anyway

Anthinus · Feb 12, 2009

Hmmm... Sounds very very good. I'm Going to put the steak on the grill...

thecatinthehat · Feb 12, 2009

Boxob. said:
The way you stated it, it made it seem like Niko was playing as Falco, not against.

exactly

infzy said:
If the ASC is spaced nice and you're burrowing through their shield, then grab.
But if you're actually hitting them, why wouldn't you want to just complete what you can of the ASC perfect-combo (since you're prolly in position to do so, if you think you could actually get a grab)? The SDJ + aerial could be worth more than an Uthrow.

Well, additional options are always welcome.

Tenki · Feb 13, 2009

They like, need to have SDI'd downwards to land an ASCPC.

This seems like it might be more lenient on spacing since grab has a higher range of effect than an SDR.

Sagen du Smash · Feb 13, 2009

How about some video demonstrations?

JayBee · Feb 13, 2009

awesome. i recommend that we call this a "BoxSpin grab combo"....

and the jab> grab mindgame the "Boxing Combo"

... idk... something with "box" in it. isn't that what usually happens?

JMan8891 · Feb 13, 2009

"SpinBoxin'" Give it some flava to stand apart from other Boxtechs

JayBee · Feb 13, 2009

that sounds awesome.

Anthinus · Feb 13, 2009

I vote for SpinBoxing...

Jim Morrison · Feb 13, 2009

Boxtrapping.

Also, that aint falco, it are fox.

aeghrur · Feb 13, 2009

I vote spinboxing.
And I really needa get ASC more into my game.
To me right now, SD>SC because I can SD charge and shield cancel it too. =/

JayBee · Feb 13, 2009

my game flucuates so much that i will notice my style change over the last 3 weeks, then it reverts back to a previous style. its wierd, but i think that's the key to my steak. I noticed that my style was lacking ASC today too, even though i know all the stuff about it. sometimes ill notice that in a match... i think my sonic is the most random i've seen so far...

Niko_K · Feb 13, 2009

@ Da Kid

I just have good combo skills, I combo a majority of players past 50. I've had strings that were 100+ on Ally before.

My defensive game sucks *** though.

da K.I.D. · Feb 13, 2009

i can tell.

you were instrumental in the creation of the "CouRt Combo"

up tilt to turn up tilt to turn uptilt for the win

Niko_K · Feb 13, 2009

Up tilt ***** my floating body xD.

And I had 2 hour sleep johns >,<

infomon · Feb 13, 2009

Niko: u trollin' mai sonicboards?!

MM at OBscene for this, plz

Ayaz18 · Feb 13, 2009

da K.I.D. said:
hmmm... i dont remember that.

we do need more 0% combos...

ive been realising more and more that sonic is a character with very little when it comes to 0% combos. as far as total damage is concerned.

i noticed this when niko played my boy court's snake in our tourney a couple weeks ago. niko pulled some falcoish mess and comboed him from 0 to about 50 on every stock all 3 games

thouse are Canadian combo's =D

but seriously it's real easy if you make sense of your footstool

seriously incorporate it into you game, it makes a lot of combo's possible

like with Sonic do spin dash (down B w/e you guys call it) jump up and at the peak of Soinc's height footstool to Dair usually set's up a nice jab lock because of the extra height of down-B

Niko_K · Feb 13, 2009

I've been using footstool combo's since late February out of shield, but all the credit goes to God-is-my-rock! xD

Trillion · Feb 16, 2009

All these people coming in here claiming to know this already annoys me. If they actually DID know about them, then why have they never mentioned them and then why do they always type sentences about them that dont make any sense? I hate how our boards have that on every freakin post. It's always, hey guys I found something cool and new. Then some non-Sonic Board person comes in and goes "OMG props to you guys for finding out what I have known for SOOOOO long!!!" BS. I'm sick of that. From now on, I expect Xiivi to give infractions to non-sonic board people who do that. It's stupid and I'm sick of seeing it.

On topic, this sounds really good Boxob. I haven't ever had it work out that I can do that, most likely because I typically don't use ASC on opponents at such low damage. I'll have to incorporate this into my play. As for a name, what about Graboxob. Notice that I spelled Boxob backwards to indicate that you did it out of a spin where Sonic may have been facing backwards.

Tenki · Feb 16, 2009

magnificentmarth said:
All these people coming in here claiming to know this already annoys me. If they actually DID know about them, then why have they never mentioned them and then why do they always type sentences about them that dont make any sense? I hate how our boards have that on every freakin post. It's always, hey guys I found something cool and new. Then some non-Sonic Board person comes in and goes "OMG props to you guys for finding out what I have known for SOOOOO long!!!" BS. I'm sick of that. From now on, I expect Xiivi to give infractions to non-sonic board people who do that. It's stupid and I'm sick of seeing it.

You mean Ayaz and Niko?

footstool combos have been used by other characters (in Niko's case, Peach) for a really long time.

As for footstool out of spindash, I've used it and brought it up quite a bit in the past (SLOW/chain SDJ footstooling). Ophelia found/was first to publish the side-B> footstool > spring > AC D-air jablock setup. I made use of side-B>footstool as tech chase setups and for random off-stage shenanigans.

But whenever it's brought up, there's focus on it for a few days, then it dies down again, lol.

magnificentmarth said:
Notice that I spelled Boxob backwards to indicate that you did it out of a spin where Sonic may have been facing backwards.

XD

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Chis · Feb 16, 2009

magnificentmarth said:
All these people coming in here claiming to know this already annoys me. If they actually DID know about them, then why have they never mentioned them and then why do they always type sentences about them that dont make any sense? I hate how our boards have that on every freakin post. It's always, hey guys I found something cool and new. Then some non-Sonic Board person comes in and goes "OMG props to you guys for finding out what I have known for SOOOOO long!!!" BS. I'm sick of that. From now on, I expect Xiivi to give infractions to non-sonic board people who do that. It's stupid and I'm sick of seeing it.

?

Foots-toll combos HAVE been found out a looonnng time again. Why would Xiivi give them infractions for that? Calm down.

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