Uair-footstool-QAL potential death combo (video pending)

ESAM here with a breaking discovery! Along with K_Prime, we have discovered a game-shifting technique for pikachu!

Basically, at the %s it says below, you can uair. This will give you enough time to footstool. When you are footstooled, you cannot tech the ground. So, you can initiate a QAL. However, with the properties of diminshing moves, you can use the uair and footstool until very high %s. This will let you get into a high enough % to jab lock. So, the combo is:

Uair->footstool->QA->uair->....->QA->Jab lock->Thunder
Tested in Debug mode, Brawl mode, DI+Fastest option

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16YRH0gueDE&fmt=18


Mario: 20%-death
Jab lock at ~64%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Donkey Kong: 22%-death
Jab lock at ~71%
7x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock -> thunder

Link: 14%-death
Jab lock at ~66%
7x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Samus: 25%-death
Jab lock at ~68%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


ZSS: 24%-death
Jab lock at ~59%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Kirby: 18%-death
Jab lock at ~58%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Fox: (Use CG)


Pikachu : 24%-death
Jab lock at ~58%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Marth: 25%-death
Jab lock at ~61%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


G&W : 23%-death
Jab lock at ~57%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Luigi : 27%-death
Jab lock at ~64%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Diddy Kong: 19%-death
Jab lock at ~64%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Zelda: 19%-death
Jab lock at ~60%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Sheik: (Use CG)
Jab lock at ~60%


Pit: 0%-death (Can DI down to land)
Jab lock at ~63%
9x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Metaknight: 24%-death
Jab lock at ~58%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Falco: 27%-death
Jab lock at ~59%
4x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Squirtle: 20%-death
Jab lock at 57%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Ivysaur: 27%-death
Jab lock at 65%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Charizard: 15%-death
Jab lock at 69%
8x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Ike : 12%-death
Jab lock at ~67%
7x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Snake : 30%-death
Jab lock at ~69%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Peach : 19%-death
Jab lock at ~62%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Yoshi: 15%-death
Jab lock at ~67%
7x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Ganondorf : 25%-death
Jab lock at ~68%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


IC : Inapplicable
Jab lock at ~62%
7x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


King Dedede : 18%-death
Jab lock at ~69%
7x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Wolf : 42%-death
Jab lock at ~66%
3x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Lucario : 27%-death
Jab lock at ~65%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Ness : 0%-death
Jab lock at ~63%
9x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Sonic : 31%-death
Jab lock at ~64%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Bowser : 31%-death
Jab lock at ~72%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Wario : 10%-death
Jab lock at ~67%
8x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Toon Link : 20%-death
Jab lock at ~62%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


ROB: 28%-death
Jab lock at ~67%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Olimar: 18%-death
Jab lock at ~59%
6x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Captain Falcon : 32%-death
Jab lock at ~66%
5x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder


Jigglypuff: N/A
Jab lock at ~55%


Lucas : 10%-death
Jab lock at ~63%
8x (uair-> footstool-> QA) -> Jab lock-> thunder

SuSa said:

The reason this works is frame advantage.

At the % on the list is "When it is guarenteed no matter what" compared to "guaranteed if your opponent doesn't do anything for X (IDK real numbers) frames"

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So there you have it, Pikachu is amazing. Have a nice day pikachus. I'll have a video up in the next week or so.

what is this bull ****?!

*sigh*.

Let's all drop Brawl for smash 64 guys! EVERYONE DESERVES TO HAVE GAY ****! AND THEY DO!

This is probably going to fail. DI = escape. SMN = escape.

Footstool comboes are always hyped for a week or two. Then they die down.

This probably has something to do with stale moves. Maybe that's why it works.

Holy crap, we were just discussing this on the Brawl+ boards.

5ive said:

Holy crap, we were just discussing this on the Brawl+ boards.

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Share some knowledge with us.

Temp vid till ESAM gets his vid up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16YRH0gueDE&fmt=18

Woah looks cool

hmmm that seems amazing.

SilverSpark said:

Share some knowledge with us.

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Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDWH...be.com/user/5iveRP&feature=player_profilepage

You see, you can't do the QAL in Brawl+ anymore, but we found out QAResets are really useful. I guess we both use the same principal anyways. Brawl+ and vBrawl unite?

can't diddy get up a different way? (referencing Prime's video)

-rubs hands evilly- Good, good.

Wow, this is pretty sexy - but, I'll be ****ed if I can pull this off. I've been practicing this, watching the video, and I can't get anywhere close =S

Mew.

Hee hee, this is definitely one of those easier said then done type of techniques. Still looks amazing.

Also, for those that are unaware you dont necessarily need the following uairs. If you get footstooled into the ground by a pika competent in footstool follow up techniques you're in a pretty bad spot. The uairs probably make this easier, but as mentioned ESAM Prime and Stealth found out about Quick Attack Locks and jab locks into 0-deaths quite awhile ago. Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP0JwYgGuTA

Most pikas are lazy though and havent bothered to be competent in the technique or setups considering the difficulty, but its definitely possible for anyone willing to bother.

[16:27] HiyaShaya: Pikachu...
[16:27] HiyaShaya: THE NEW ICE CLIMBERS
[16:27] HiyaShaya: wITHOUT THE WEAKNESS OF BEING ABLE TO SEPERATE THEM
[16:28] HiyaShaya: gg!

Susa approved.

You guys just don't want it to actually work. I'm gonna try to get a vid up today.

Also, for all you people saying it doesn't work, i went through 7 hours of testing in debug mode to get these numbers. I put DI in all of them, so it does work.

Oooh this looks fun!
...
Now if only I was good enough to pull something like this off.
And wow Esam, 7 hours! Good work! such Pikachu dedication :heart:

I'm so, soooo sad...
:[

It's really not difficult. You just need to practice it, just like any pikachu tech.

Wow...another 0 death, except it works on everyone. If this doesn't affect the tier list I'll eat a Pikachu plushie. On camera.

I wish Snake would have anything like this <_<

Anyway nice find but i think this wont affect pikachus metagame that much (Like the CG)

Against people where it starts around like 17% you can combo into it with:

D-throw->reverse U-tilt->uair->footstool to start it.

And also, to get the people to the higher %s, you could always just CG them or camp with thunder jolts...

A few more of these techniques, and we'll finally have an advantage on MK!

Nicholas1024 said:

A few more of these techniques, and we'll finally have an advantage on MK!

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Mind if I put that in my sig?

Be my guest!

New advanced technique discovered by meta knight:

"Play campier and gayer against Pikachu, otherwise he'll do very very very gay **** to you"

It will be advanced, because Pikachu's plethora of gay options are growing at an exponential rate (1.25 * exp(t * k)) and to avoid them will require massive skill.

t = time
k = 0.1025

Yeah, I can't really see why this wouldn't work, it's ... painful I suppose...
I don't necessarily think this will mean Pika jumping up even more (he's already near the border of A and S, and I can't see him going above Marth... just yet) on the tier list... Depends on how easy players can avoid the set ups I suppose.

-evil laughter- Just try to outgay Pikachu

Look at ERICK trying to be technical, but no matter how much you try it will always be Diddy > Pika jk jk lolz.

But yea good shizz Erick.



-LEE-

Is is just me, or does it seem like most new discoveries in Brawl appear to be ridiculous combos and/or infinites that lead to death? If this is a true death combo, this appears to be an incredible find, but honestly it's starting to get pretty silly.