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(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (/・ω・)/

Punishment Divine

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Marth is also one of the best 2v1 if you're on the side with 2 lol. Air releases are so good.

But Marth is horrible in teams, it's the main reason I play Wario and D3 lol

DOUBLE MARTH though is soooo good against certain teams. It's horrible against like Double MK or anything with an MK really but against 2 characters Marth solidly beats the team ***** more than like double MK imo
 

Blacknight99923

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double marth is good against teams with lack of range, it isn't paticularly bad against MK because (imo) marth isn't terrible in teams, double marth brings in extreme zoning and complementary grab games to the table, it however lacks in RAW killing power. he also doesn't really have the ability to just save his partner liek some characters can.

I firmly believe double marth is a decent team providing both players have extremely good spacing
 

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When I mean 2v1 I mean in the situation where your opponent just lost a stock, or isnt able to instantly help you and you are having to handle 2 characters at once momentarily.
I think Marth does that pretty well.
 

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Not denying it ;).
Except Im not entirely sure about Diddy. I think hes just as needs specific team partners to work as Marth is.

Chars like Wario, G&W, Lucario and MK are pretty much pro with any other team mate.
 

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Also guys, Ive been working on this special thing for the new match up thread.
Think of it as a menu bar.
You click a character and it will hotlink you to the info on the page (e.g with Meta Knight)

<table style="background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #0570A5" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="2" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
<td style="background: #BFD1DA; color: #000; line-height: 120%; font-size:10pt; padding-top:1px" width="45%" colspan="3"><strong>Tier List Order</strong>
<table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>TOP
<a href="#mu_metaknight"><img src="http://www.smashboards.com/images/char/metaknight.png" title="Meta Knight" width="20" height="20"></a></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>HIGH
<img src="images/char/snake.png" border="0" alt="" title="Snake" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/diddy.png" border="0" alt="" title="Diddy Kong" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/falco.png" border="0" alt="" title="Falco" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/popo.png" border="0" alt="" title="Ice Climber" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/marth.png" border="0" alt="" title="Marth" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/wariocl.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wario Classic" width="20" height="20">
<img src="images/char/dedede.png" border="0" alt="" title="King Dedede" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/pikachu.png" border="0" alt="" title="Pikachu" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/olimar.png" border="0" alt="" title="Olimar" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/lucario.png" border="0" alt="" title="Lucario" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/gw.png" border="0" alt="" title="Mr. Game &amp; Watch" width="20" height="20"></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>Middle
<img src="images/char/pit.png" border="0" alt="" title="Pit" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/toonlink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Toon Link" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/zerosuitsamus.png" border="0" alt="" title="Zero Suit Samus" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/kirby.png" border="0" alt="" title="Kirby" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/rob.png" border="0" alt="" title="R.O.B." width="20" height="20">
<img src="images/char/dk.png" border="0" alt="" title="Dk" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/peach.png" border="0" alt="" title="Peach" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/fox.png" border="0" alt="" title="Fox" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/luigi.png" border="0" alt="" title="Luigi" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/wolf.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wolf" width="20" height="20">
<img src="images/char/shiek.png" border="0" alt="" title="Sheik" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/pt.png" border="0" alt="" title="Pokémon Trainer" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/sonic.png" border="0" alt="" title="Sonic" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/ness.png" border="0" alt="" title="Ness" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/bowser.png" border="0" alt="" title="Bowser" width="20" height="20"></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>Low
<img src="images/char/lucas.png" border="0" alt="" title="Lucas" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/ike.png" border="0" alt="" title="Ike" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/yoshi.png" border="0" alt="" title="Yoshi" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/mario.png" border="0" alt="" title="Mario" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/falcon.png" border="0" alt="" title="Falcon" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/samus.png" border="0" alt="" title="Samus" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/jigglypuff.png" border="0" alt="" title="Jigglypuff" width="20" height="20">
<img src="images/char/zelda.png" border="0" alt="" title="Zelda" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/link.png" border="0" alt="" title="Link" width="20" height="20"> <img src="images/char/ganondorf.png" border="0" alt="" title="Ganondorf" width="20" height="20"></td></tr></table></td>
<td style="font-size:10pt; padding-top:1px" colspan="3"></td>
<td style="background: #D3E2EB; color: #000; line-height: 120%" nowrap="nowrap" width="45%" valign="top"><strong>Difficulty Order</strong>
<table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>Disadvantage
<a href="#mu_metaknight"><img src="http://www.smashboards.com/images/char/metaknight.png" title="Meta Knight" width="20" height="20"></a></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>Even
<img src="images/char/marth.png" border="0" alt="" title="Marth" width="20" height="20"></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>Advantage
<img src="images/char/lucario.png" border="0" alt="" title="Lucario" width="20" height="20"></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>Large Advantage
<img src="images/char/ganondorf.png" border="0" alt="" title="Ganondorf" width="20" height="20"></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr><td>Limbo
<img src="images/char/diddy.png" border="0" alt="" title="Diddy Kong" width="20" height="20"></td></tr></table></td>
</tr>
</table>























<div id="mu_metaknight" align="left">ROAR META KNIGHT</div>
 

Reizilla

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That's a pretty sweet idea, Shaya. Does it work the same on 40 posts per page and 20 posts, etc.?

I always go Snake or MK in doubles if I'm uncomfortable with the characters I'm fighting. But then again, I suck XD haha
 

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destroy the metaknight

I like it its origonal

that being said we need to revamp the match up discussion, MY most knowledgable match ups are

MK
snake
falco
and IC's
 

Reizilla

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My most knowledgeable match-ups would be:

wolf - aww :(
gaw - oh wait :/
Falco - probably not much new to say there either XD
 

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pretty simple HTML but still cool stuff
cant do much in terms of javascript goodness
(Wanted to have you clicking a character and it reveals something below; tried seeing if I could hax myself through the drop down menu that you get for notifications. The former didnt work out for me for onclick on links (i.e. an entire javascript function for every link would be loldevestating, and trying to define functions didnt work at all :\). And trying to use the drop down menu (like lets say just for when you click a character it will show a list of links + the match up ratio or something) had nothing either.

So Im stuck with simple HTML, but thats fine with me. Its probably better that way, all things considered.
 

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I think we should make a universal marth guide called "how to polish your tiara" that covers everything we need to know as marth players. iirc we don't have that
edit

we do not have a sticky in depth marth guide like that of other boards that includes match ups frame data, general how to's indepth move analysis and more,

and I really just want a guide called "how to polish your tiara" its so fitting
 

Blacknight99923

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*looks in urban dictionary what jean means
**** its not there.



btw is that shaya in teh guides forum dressed as marth?
100$ i would look better in marth cosplay


edit if I lose I won't really pay you
 

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Toby mains marth now guys, btw.

Ive been teaching him how important it is to never DI up when you are a character with legs against Marth.
lolol fthrow to fsmash tipper at death percents.
 

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Ive been teaching him how important it is to never DI up when you are a character with legs against Marth.
lolol fthrow to fsmash tipper at death percents.
How does this work on good players?

I mean... At "death percents" Fthrow has too much knockback for Fsmash... Unless they like DI INTO you...
 

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How does this work on good players?

I mean... At "death percents" Fthrow has too much knockback for Fsmash... Unless they like DI INTO you...
His point is that it doesn't work without them having stupid DI, as indicated by writing "lolol" prior to his statement.

Shaya always tippers everything thanks to my super bad DI.

And yeah stingers, marth is where its at :p

Although I must admit he's not as cute as Ivysaur.
 

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DS for marth is pretty **** in teams.
As long as you have a mobile team mate nearby (read: mk), you can afford to DS a bit more than you would in singles.
They cant afford to put some time and effort into fully abusing your lag :p

imo i dont think marth is bad in teams, hes definitely not the best though. Him in 2v1 situations isnt toooo bad. And his planking game in doubles is formidable.
No, if Marth does anything to punish is back is WIDE open in 2v1
 

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Well not just DB... alot of other stuff leaves him open, his only safe punishment is like sh fair, but u cant even follow that up cuz now somebody else is attacking you

Edit: who wants to wifi? bored.
 

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Hai guys. Just started maining marth and i'm never lookin back lol. I cant believe it took me so long to find a main...
 
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