A GENERIC TOURNAMENT 9000+: Melee, Brawl+, Jan 3rd, MAJOR UPDATE

[Teebs]

I just don't get why people are trying to make brawl more like melee, when you can just play melee instead and not have the hastle. Whatever, I guess.

Why not make it like that? You just have more characters then! I'm interested to see how Lucas, Lucario, and Sonic play with a semi-Melee engine! Just have a lot of fun! You obviously have not been to a Kish / Ship-run tournament. They are like NO other. Definitely the best run tournament you'll ever be to.

Oh yeah, put me down for this.

 

[Zicore]

Will hopefully be attending with the Bug City Crew.

 

[Ignatius]

Man, I didnt even get a post on page 1. I must be getting rusty.

 

[KishSquared]

I just don't get why people are trying to make brawl more like melee, when you can just play melee instead and not have the hastle. Whatever, I guess.

Why play a 7 year old game when you can play a 1 year old game?

Melee will never be replaced. That doesn't mean we can haxor Brawl and have fun doing it!

 

[KishPrime]

Some people just don't get it...

MELEE AND BRAWL+

 

[ice-]

Sounds like a blast, def plan on coming.

Also, can someone point me in the direction of Brawl+ so I can get some practice in?

 

[Revven]

KishPrime, you should use the new histun code for this tourney as well as any other new codes that come out and shiz, you gots plenty of time to wait for other good shiz to be out for Brawl+.

 

[KishSquared]

We'll be providing codes for use next weekend, after we get a chance to play with it. But we'll definitely adopt improved codes as they come out.

For anyone that wants to know how to get Brawl+, there are plenty of threads on the subject. Run a search for it and you'll find it.

 

[Teebs]

I can't get it because I already updated.... fail.

 

[slartibartfast42]

FC = Friend Code
No wait, Final Cutter.

FC = For Cash, right?

Do any ohio (canton) people have rides availible? I kind of want to try out brawl +, but I seriously doubt I'll like it more than melee. I have done all the update things on the wii, so I don't think I can haxx0r... FCD was my first tournament because I used to be a n00b who thought that the tournaments on the tournament calendar were the only tournaments. lol. Man, I sucked so much then (I'm still not too good, but I'm improving), but I had so much fun. Melee is too good. I didn't go to any other tournaments until brawl came out because I didn't want to waste my time getting good at a game that would be obsolete. Then brawl sucked, so I still play melee XD.

 

[Blood_Hawk]

Why not make it like that? You just have more characters then! I'm interested to see how Lucas, Lucario, and Sonic play with a semi-Melee engine!

Non-attacking recovery with crazy L-canceling aerials bearing down on him? Luc is kind of slow to begin with as far as aerials go. And momentum stopping dair is not too favorable either.. He is gonna be sucktastic from what I gather. *Shudders*

I'll most likely still come, if there isn't a semi decent Brawl tourney happening on this date. I do have a rad Falco going as a secondary, and ICs will L-cancels will be crazy. It will be fun seeing everyone again as well.

 

[DrewB008]

they should make codes to give spot dodges and rolls more lag

then lucario would be complete garbage

 

[BananaHammock]

I will definitely be at this...provided I'm not in Florida at the time.

 

[Teebs]

I just played Brawl+ today, and it's kinda cool, but nothing special. This should still be a fun tournament!

 

[ice-]

I will definitely be at this...provided I'm not in Florida at the time.

evil eye

10evileyes

 

[jeffgordon24]

I hax0red my Wii today and tried it. It's a lot of fun, and I haven't been to any competitive Smash for ages, it would be fun as long as it doesn't cost a lot of money. I don't like paying lots of money to lose and just pay the best three players.

 

[KishPrime]

I doubt we'll go higher than $10 per tourney.

Shrug. This is for the fun!

 

[CrazyFoxBrawler]

I'll be there! My Wii has Brawl + and it is amazing!

 

[kirkq]

I'm going to try to make it to this. Driving in snow sucks though, so that would be a reason I would possibly john out.

I'm done playing barlw, but I'll be playing melee.

 

[slartibartfast42]

they should make codes to give spot dodges and rolls more lag

then lucario would be complete garbage

2 words

SHIELD STUN

I want it. Shield grabbing shall no longer be top tier! But what am I saying, I'd rather just play melee.

EDIT: I also want no auto sweet spotting of the ledge....

 

[darkNES386]

Perhaps you can provide a link on the first post to any official thread discussing Brawl+ or at least list what specific hacks it will have to help clarify it.

 

[KishPrime]

We'll post that by the end of the weekend.

 

[Joshu]

Hey guys, there's a promo video! It's awesome~!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DduEDOhs6Hk

YEAH!!!

 

[slartibartfast42]

wow, that was actually kinda funny. The terrible acting makes it even funnier. But I don't think that rests being too easy is a problem...

 

[Zjiin]

Subscribed. Melee sounds awesome and Brawl+ sounds.... okay.

[EDIT] Don't get me wrong, I think doing the hacked tourney is interesting, I just majorly dislike Brawl haha.

 

[KishSquared]

Sounds great Zjiin! It'll be interesting to see if people like or dislike Brawl+ in tourney play. I have a feeling it's going to go over great though.

Also, Joshu jumped the gun and uploaded a low-quality version of the promo vid. Higher quality version is coming.

 

[KishPrime]

That is such a horrible video...

 

[Teebs]

Sweet, HD makes everything better! BTW, Tim, seeing you wear the MELEE-FCD staff shirt reminded me, I still haven't gotten mine ^_^ lol.

 

[IkeKillsAll]

I might b there, is brawl+ really much different because I haven't ever played so I don't really plan on getting screwed over by a hack i didn't know wuz there and some1 private message me a friends code, I need some good opponents

 

[darkNES386]

We still don't have any more information on what hacks will be inplace... are there any concerns about other hacks being put in place? Are we to assume any setups provided by players are legit?

 

[KishSquared]

Actually, we'll install the codes on each console so there's no chance of someone haxoring in their own codes.

And yeah, we should get our codes posted. For quick reference, the codes being used are:
- SSBM Airdodge v2
- S-canceling
- Hitstun = X% (% TBD)
- No Tripping
- Unlimited replays

 

[Joshu]

Don't forget results screen fighting.

 

[KishSquared]

Oh yes, that too. I'd seriously leave that on there if it didn't result in lockups when people died :/

We'll be using the RAWRizard code, though. I forgot to mention that. RAWRizard lets you play as a single Pokemon throughout a match rather than being required to switch. Normal PT players rejoice, you can still play the normal PT.

EDIT: I'm not hearing much about people bringing hacked setups. Are there really none out there?

 

[MookieRah]

Have you guys pegged the codes you will be using for Brawl+? I'm thinking you need to have the list done soon considering people should have time to practice with your code set. BTW, my permissions are fixed so I can post here! I can also talk about Brawl+ codes and stuff without people telling me that 10% is not enough stun! YAY!

 

[KishSquared]

Haha... I just sent the codes to Prime, he should be editing them into the first post shortly.

Also, we're going to do 5% hitstun for now. 10% seems a tad too much. This is the first Brawl+ tourney, so we'll see how it goes and adjust accordingly.

 

[Jekyll]

I hacked my Wii last night, and I can definitely bring it as a setup.

 

[MuBa]

Good stuff man. I really would like to see how Brawl+ fares in a tournament. Man I wish the STL crew would try this game out more but it's just that they have this mindset about having a hacked game in a tournament is a ridiculous idea and a sin.

 

[Zjiin]

Since the hitstun property in competitve play is still basically new, will the % remain standard in the tourney despite what happens? I mean, if someone finds a way to exploit it to the point of guaranteed 0-death, would you consider changing the %?

This is a very highly unlikely scenario, considering you guys will be testing it out beforehand. I just want to know how familiar the TOs will be with the hacks with each character and how a situation like this would be handled.

/end devil advocation.

 

[Count]

How much at a disadvantage will I be at if I come having not ever played brawl+ before? It sounds fun and I am free that day, but I don't know how different it is having never played.

 

[MookieRah]

I mean, if someone finds a way to exploit it to the point of guaranteed 0-death, would you consider changing the %?

I guarantee that there won't be any 0 to deaths with 5%. Honestly, 10% was just a tad bit too much, and you couldn't do anything that crazy on it. Most characters don't seem have suitable aerials to finish combos with anyways.

How much at a disadvantage will I be at if I come having not ever played brawl+ before? It sounds fun and I am free that day, but I don't know how different it is having never played.

You'd be at a pretty big disadvantage. Most of the brawl strats still work, but S-canceling, MAD, and what have you affect things quite a bit and you need to be used to them before you enter.

@Kishes
Is Meta broke at 5% or is he about the same? I know at 10% you guys said he was, but seeing the big drop down to 5% I'm thinking that it might not be so bad.

Also, I was thinking about doing a t-shirt design for this. Nothing crazy like the FC shirts, but I was thinking something along the lines of a type based design. I don't think I could produce the shirts from the place that I used back in the day, cause they like stuff way, way in advance. If you are interested, PM me about it.