A GENERIC TOURNAMENT 9000+: Melee, Brawl+, Jan 3rd, MAJOR UPDATE

[KishSquared]

We're always interested in Mookie shirts, but this is probably going to be a small regional tournament. I doubt you want to waste your time and effort on such a little shindig, but if you do then rock on!

Zjiin, I'm very familiar with the codes and I can change hitstun on a moment's notice. I agree with Mookie, though. 10% was just a tad too strong, and 5% is a pretty significant decrease from that. We'll be playing with it more, but 5% should be plenty fine. If anything, it might need to be increased.

MK should be a bit better at 5%, so we're not banning him. I think he deserves a chance in Brawl+.

 

[MookieRah]

Well, I'm still messing around with Illustrator trying to come up with an interesting logotype :-P. If it won't be as large as I thought then I won't bother making shirts, but I'm bored so this is giving me something to do.

 

[KishSquared]

Maybe you should make Brawl+ T-shirts that can be sold at any Brawl+ tournament. Make your own logo for the game and then you won't need to worry about copyright laws :D The back of the shirt should have one of the longer codes sprawled out across it, lol.

 

[MookieRah]

Making a shirt for Brawl+ is a good idea. I gotta do that sometime soon. Lots of moneys. I need to take an illustration job to fund the purchasing of shirts though.

Anyways, check it out, I made a type poster:

If you want it in 300 DPI for printing I can email it to someone.

 

[Teebs]

That is quite the "generic" poster, and it's well done. It fits with the tournament.

 

[MookieRah]

Helvetica + Constructivism FTW.

 

[Teebs]

Maybe you should make Brawl+ T-shirts that can be sold at any Brawl+ tournament. Make your own logo for the game and then you won't need to worry about copyright laws :D The back of the shirt should have one of the longer codes sprawled out across it, lol.

I know a guy here in town who makes t-shirts, so if someone comes up with some good logos, then send 'em to me and I can get some quotes. That logo above could work as the front of the shirt.

 

[MookieRah]

I actually have close ties to the company that does shirts and other printed goodness for NASA and Disney, so I have that covered :-P. I used them to do the FC-3 and FC-6 shirts.

 

[Teebs]

Ah, nice.

10char

 

[Jekyll]

Just checking, you'll be using the S-Canceling code alone without Auto L-Canceling...correct?

 

[KishSquared]

At this moment in time, yes.

PRIME, GET YOUR LAZY BONES IN GEAR AND POST TEH CODEZ!

 

[KishSquared]

HQ promo vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjlYT4e2fl4

 

[Teebs]

I like the mainly monotone acting.

 

[MuBa]

Hey Kishes, how about you guys wait until the new codes for Dash Dancing and Shield Stun come out? Test it in a bit and THEN see if the codes deem to be worthy of being in the tournament.

Now the biggest problem I see atm is the time constraint. I dunno when the hacker will actually be able to make this code.

 

[KishSquared]

You mean... delay the tournament until new codes come out? Is there a reason to do that?

This tournament is for Brawl+ as it currently stands. If new codes come out by the time our tournament happens, we might be willing to include them. But waiting for Brawl+ codes that may never happen doesn't make a lot of sense... maybe I'm misunderstanding though.

Also, don't forget that Melee will also be played ^_^

 

[Mars-]

Brawl wavedashing isn't good. Unless this version 2 is different then the one I have, it makes shield dashing incredibly hard. I would rather see the game less floaty then it is.

 

[Revven]

Brawl wavedashing isn't good. Unless this version 2 is different then the one I have, it makes shield dashing incredibly hard. I would rather see the game less floaty then it is.

There ARE gravity mods for that but... it doesn't help vertical KOs much and buffs horizontal KOs like crazy. It also nerfs jumps and Up Bs so, it's like Heavy Brawl EXCEPT you can modify the quantity by how much gravity is increased. I think the floatiness mostly comes from the physics engine itself combined with stale moves, higher short hops, and not nearly as fast fast falling.

Anyway... in short, the floatiness issue will be fixed either by making changes to fastfalling, short hops or some other stuff would be changed. However, right now, Phantom Wings (teh hax0rz that has made most of Brawl+ possible) is out of a Wii right now and thus, cannot make any codes for a while (for how long we're not sure).

Also, KishSquared, make sure you're using the right PT codes and not the Independent one (where if you select Charizard, you're just Charizard) as that can... corrupt the save file (albeit, it can be remedied with the My Music reset codes or just recopying the save file from the SD Card to the Wii). Use teh stamina and no force death codes on PT... I'm assuming you already are but, just makin' sure.

Oh yeahz, I hope to see Brawl+ vids from this tourney too, I want to see how the matches turn out and stuff since I can't go (out of state + can't drive there = fail). I hope the turnout is good for both events as well...

All in all, I is keeping mah eyes on dis thread!

 

[darkNES386]

Depending on how long it takes to get Brawl+ figured out, perhaps a survey to discuss whether or not to play a hacked Brawl would be a good idea. I really would hate to have only a week to even try to experiment with the specific hacked version that is played.

 

[Teebs]

Depending on how long it takes to get Brawl+ figured out, perhaps a survey to discuss whether or not to play a hacked Brawl would be a good idea. I really would hate to have only a week to even try to experiment with the specific hacked version that is played.

Agreed.

10char

 

[KishSquared]

Thanks for the input, Falco. Are you not able to attend then? Also, I don't have those PT codes. Where can I find them??

Also, discussing Brawl+ will no doubt happen a lot at this tournament, but the success of the game will be determined by attendance and popularity of Brawl+ tournaments. I've always been a firm believer that the community decides what works and what doesn't by attendance. If Brawl+ fails, it will be because no one wants to travel to play it. If it works, it will be because attendance at Brawl+ tournaments take off.

In other words, we can discuss it all we want, but discussion won't determine the validity or non-validity of competitive Brawl+. It will be the success or failure of such tournaments that do so.

So if you want Brawl+ to be competitive, come to this tournament!! And bring your friends, too :D

 

[Teebs]

I'm just curious...

Is there now going to be three parties of Smash?

1. The Melee Party
2. The Brawl Party
3. The Brawl+ Party

 

[lain]

Brawl+ is dumb.

Just my opinion of course :]

 

[Zjiin]

Brawl is dumb.

Just my opinion of course :]

You had a typo. No need to thank me.

 

[Zicore]

good catch zjiin. How are you getting there, btw, if you do indeed go.

 

[Zjiin]

good catch zjiin. How are you getting there, btw, if you do indeed go.

I have no clue, but I should get on that although I'd hate to break the ongoing tradition of last minute planning.

 

[KishSquared]

I hope we have a good turnout for Melee as well. I want to see all the Melee peeps.

 

[Revven]

Thanks for the input, Falco. Are you not able to attend then? Also, I don't have those PT codes. Where can I find them??

You can find them here in the first post. Also, yes, I cannot attend unfortunately (I would if I could). Hope the turnout is good though, we need Brawl+ to take off. D:

Edit: Another new code came out for you guys to add to the set that make characters more viable! Here, at least, Ness, Lucas, and Wario anyway.

 

[MuBa]

Thought I'd find this to be appropriate....

Just a friendly reminder to those who supports Brawl+ plz join the social group for it http://www.smashboards.com/group.php?groupid=406

I really do hope Brawl+ will become tournament standard rather than some side-event because this game is very different from Brawl and Melee itself.

 

[zxeon]

I'd like to go to this but South Bend is three hours from indianapolis. If I can work something out I'll post here.

 

[The MC Clusky]

Melee and Brawl+ should be the next FC.

I was very sad that it was canceled this summer

 

[iamthemicrowave]

im there, its over my break!! lets go chicagooooooooooo

 

[_kSo_]

Dude man, this shiznit is happening the day of my flight back to Indiana. Perhaps I will show up for the after party (assuming there is one ಠ_ಠ)

 

[Mars-]

I'm looking into this right now I gotta see if anyone would want to get a ride or something or if somebody else would be driving.

 

[KishSquared]

We're locking down the venue currently, which may come down to us hosting it ourselves. Also, Prime should be posting codes soon... PRIME POST THE CODES!!

Who all is coming for Melee?

 

[BananaHammock]

I'm coming for melee along with at least 6 others from Ft. Wayne.

 

[Joshu]

Who all is coming for Melee?

I'm not.

10 lolnos

 

[Teebs]

Who all is coming for Melee?

*Seconds Joshu's reply*

 

[KishSquared]

Brawl+ Rules

Singles: $10
Doubles: $10/person
Venue fee: $5 (waived if you bring a setup!)

WE WILL USE A STAGE STRIKE SYSTEM. Players will take turns striking stages off an extended list until only one remains.

Neutrals: FD, BF, SV, Delfino, YI, Halberd, Lylat, PS1, Castle Siege
Banned: Mushroomy I&II, Rumble Falls, Eldin, Spear Pillar, PTAD, WarioWare, New Pork City, Summit, 75m, Mario Bros, FZ2, Hanenbow, Temple, Onett, Green Greens, Big Blue.
Counters: The rest

(NOTE THAT SHADOW MOSES IS BACK ON!!!)

- 3 stock
- 8 min
- Stage strike + 1 (ban a stage for the set after the stage strike)
- Team Attack On
- Items off, all set to off
- If a tie results from a Bowsercide, Bowser wins
- No stalling

CODES
8% Hitstun (value may yet be adjusted)
42000000 80000000
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
32000000 0000001C
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
92210002 00000070
58010000 0000007C
34000038 00000042
36000038 00000049
4A001002 00000000
58010000 00000024
58010000 0000000C
1400001C 00000088
14000018 00000088
E2000002 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000
045A9300 3EF5C28F
C276CCD4 00000002
C022FFE0 EF7C0072
60000000 00000000

S Cancelling (up for debate still)
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
92210002 0000007C
58010000 0000007C
58010000 0000002C
92210003 00000004
4A001002 00000000
34000038 00000015
36000038 00000019
4A001003 00000000
10000084 00000080
E2000002 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E2000003 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

Auto L-canceling (up for debate still)
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
92210002 0000007C
92210003 00000014
58010000 000000C4
92210004 00000010
4A000000 805A0100
92210005 00000000
88A00004 00000005
4A001002 00000000
30000036 00000018
4A001003 00000000
92210005 00000040
88900005 00000004
94210005 00000040
E2000001 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

No Tripping
0481CB34 C0220020
045A9340 00000000

No-limit Match Recording
040EB804 60000000

RAWRizard
48000000 80000000
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
36000000 00000032
92210002 00000000
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000008
20001810 0000001D
14017FB0 4F000000
20001811 0000001E
14016300 4F000000
20001811 0000001F
14011124 4F000000
E2000001 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

C2816AF4 0000000A
3E408062 3A523320
3A60FFFF 3E730001
7E732038 1E730244
7E529A14 80120000
2C00001D 41800024
2C000022 4181001C
2C170115 41820014
38A5FFFF 2C050000
40800008 38A00002
7C0802A6 00000000

 

[MuBa]

Rawrizard and 8% hitstun? I would seriously consider raising it to at least 9%

Also make sure that Dedede's and Falco's CG does NOT work on those settings or else having Shadow Moses Island on could be ugly.

 

[Dastrn]

boo i'll be in indiana for christmas, but i'll miss this tourney by 3 days.

/changescheduleforjustmeguyslol