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I <3 Dash attack OOSSo we are abusing G&Ws Windboxen against the nado? Thanks Zac!
Another one: What are his best options out of shield? I really like UpB and Shielddrop-Downtilt but maybe I am missing some good one?
This is what I see.I <3 getting grabbed
I don't blindly dash attack every move if the opponent uses a move that you know is unsafe on shield you can use it.This is what I see.
It doesn't?Dair is the worst thing you can do, it doesn't slow momentum. In order: Nair>Bucket, Uair>Bucket, Nair, Uair, Bair, Fair, Dair, Airdodge
I think that's the right order, but yeah, always try to Fast Fall your nair and then bucket brake.
Mmhmm~Yes, we can punish all options. We just can't simply dsmash or fsmash you in that case. Don't always tech. For some reason many still think that teching the throw means you get away with it. I can't remember how long Lucarios techroll was, but assuming it's Lucario, I'd say quite long. Fair and regrab do work on all characters though.
I think there was a debate about this pretty recently on the G&W boards. GIMR made a metagame minute about our nair tech chase. It seems like we can punish lucario's techroll every time if done properly. Look at 1:30 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrg4NZ_Z_tQMmhmm~
Lucario ground tech roll covers alot of distance unsurprisingly~
I did a few test myself, and it seems he rolls waaay far enough to escape a d-smash or f-smash. But...I still think if he reads where we go he can get a f-air or run up grab punish.
Ahhh thanks~ Nah, don't worry, I use FCAS up close and only during a bait or frame trap against the likes of G&W. Just looked up the frame data. His d-smash isn't punishable sadly, even by fully charged aurasphere after shield drop. (a single frame away...) ._. But I can set up some shield pressure with f-tilt at the least.Dsmash should be punishable, you just need to be fast. And don't worry, I don't think G&W has enough time at all to get his bucket out when you AS oos at close range.
Nair is pretty safe so unless it's badly spaced and you can shieldgrab I would be very careful. Just play incredibly defensive and don't shoot too much AS and you should do just fine. I keep losing to careful Lucarios...
Waaah its true... I just did a frame data run on this.I think there was a debate about this pretty recently on the G&W boards. GIMR made a metagame minute about our nair tech chase. It seems like we can punish lucario's techroll every time if done properly. Look at 1:30 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrg4NZ_Z_tQ
You're talking to THE Side-B spamming Gdubs =)So I've realized that in my playstyle I never really use judgement (maybe once every 20 matches). I reserve it as a taunting gesture that I pull out when I am so far ahead I don't have to worry anymore. From a competitive standpoint, that's probably all it should be anyways, right?
Still, I do want to use it a little bit more for novelty sake. The 9 hammer is essentially a G&W trademark. Are there any situations that you guys find yourself using the hammer often? For instance, a hammer against snake's UpB seems to hit almost every time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecF4goNEBw&t=137
Any other good setups/scenarios?
Not necessarily howeverShortly though, sideB is mostly a worthless move. If someone like Marth whiffs an upB at low % it might be worth it to attempt a 9, but if it fails, you missed a big punish opportunity and now struggle again. I should use it way less it's bad.