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It annoyed me when everyone watching brood vs M2K were having orgasms over basic comboes rather than being impressed by his buffering capability, play style, etc (They were also impressed by that stuff, but the basics, cmon...
Since I have a way of speaking to you directly, I can relay information to you for sure.
Yea, that did get annoying. I also got a little ticked off when everyone gasped at him grabbing M2K (I think) through the ledge >.> People know nothing of what we can do. Which is good, in a way, but kinda makes you feel like people are ignoring the awesomesauce that is Olimar.
everything about that match vs. m2k is dumb, because m2k only knows one thing about the oli MU or character in general, and that is gimping technique
Congratulations
How many different colors do you have now? I know at least three - premium, BBR, and now ResearcherThanks. :]Congratulations
Premium is almost finishing. :X I can also use the Tournament Directors and Debaters usergroup colors.
Wait so you can choose which color you want, even if you want to be put back to yellow?Thanks. :]
Premium is almost finishing. :X I can also use the Tournament Directors and Debaters usergroup colors.
Guess this isn't related to Olimar...
But . . . but . . . I'm in NJ
I actually agree with this to a decree. We can learn to compromise with the community as long as we don't sacrifice competitiveness. 8 minutes to 10 minutes doesn't do that. Also, our competition typically relies on eliminating the opponent as a primary win condition. The time-out win condition is only a result of having an out of game need to eventually end the match, or I'm confident we would use no timer.
Please learn your **** MUs. I keep telling you, just attack Olimar, he's super over-rated in shield. Lemme hit you with some Frame data.
MK dtilt on Block = -11
Oli grab = Frame 11
Guess what, your dtilt is safe as Peach with the Lazy Shell and the Safety Ring. In fact, since Olimar has no grab armor, it's heavily likely you will win a trade of spamming a spaced Dtilt on his shield. Considering the MIX-UP options you have from there, it's ******** how much offensive pressure you can put on this character. If you space, he cannot do anything else out of shield, because Dtilt is gay as hell, and only gives you FOUR frames to act after dropping your shield.
Usmash is good, but if you're spacing, you won't get hit. The problem with you Jason, is that when you don't know a MU, you try and over rely on Dair instead of experimenting with different things, which is why you used to get messed up by Lucario, and now some Olimar wrecked you. Stop relying on brute force, and then camping if that doesn't work and just learn your **** MUs! Look at you vs. Ally now that you KNOW the Snake MU. Jeez!
Also, STAY ON HIS **** SHIELD WITH NADO!!!!!! OLIMAR'S SHIELD AND ROLLS SUCK! ANY PREVIOUS PRESSURE AT ALL, AND NADO WILL STAB.
Partially true, partially false. Olimar's UpB is transcendent, so it cuts right through Tornado. I play Olimar myself, and have conditioned myself to just hit approaching Nados. Also, you can typically Dash Grab an MK who's Nadoing away from you, it has considerable lag.
I am fairly positive that having ZERO Pikman gives a better boost, but to my knowledge 1 pikman = 6 Pikman in terms of an extra height boost.
Also, I told everyone to stop taking Olimar to Delfino, and what to do about Purples. No one listened.
This is one of the rarest senerios ever, and if Lee would have played the MU right, this would've been a non-issue.
Also, protip, go for LOW port vs. Olimar. Simultaneous grabs are decided by port with closest to one emerging as the victor. Since all us F6 grabbers have a 5 frame advantage on Olimar, sometimes using an aerial into a grab will straight up win, and if we have port, we beat the tie.
(This part is regarding punishing MK's Dair on block)
It's possible. He has a 1 frame window to hit you off a shield drop before your frame 3 airdodge comes out. However, taking into consideration he has to Dash, I'm pretty sure this is safe. However, you're not always going to Dair to Airdodge, so this is a reasonable response.
Also, I don't know how many of you saw, but I two-stocked Brood in the one friendly I played him with Marth (and uh, I SDed). Not trying to toot my own horn or anything, but since you asked who beats Olimar, I'm going to just go ahead and throw out Marth. Also, if you just learn the **** MUs, then we won't get ***** by Olimar. Who did Brood fight in bracket that had Olimar experience? Larry had that Rich Brown training I'm sure. And sadly, since smash players are too lazy to do any research on their own (and typically suck at this game) then things like this happen.
Worst of all, sadly, since a lot of our top players just outskill opponents, people don't know MUs even at high levels.
I have a lot of respect for Brood, but I'm applauded that people let an Olimar place second at an international tournament. I do think Olimar is a decent, possibly viable character, but people just were free for him, it was stupid. Everyone played scared as hell. M2k was scared, Ally was scared, even Lee was scared. Thank you Larry, for not being scared, sheesh. It's just frikken Olimar.
/salty
^This x1,000.
Lol pikman ^_^
Oh trust me, it was answered, lol.
Make a new post so I don't miss it
You basically just said everything I was gonna get around to saying eventually
And @Pierce, I think you also overrate how easy it is to avoid even just the Usmash OOS - you play a character who has a huge sword to attack with (primarily, since I know you play many), so for many people you don't have to enter oos danger zones. However, if we're going up against a Diddy, Wario, Pikachu, G&W, or any number of other characters, if they hit our shield they aren't so fortunate to avoid it. Some people can outspace it, but I'd say that's a minority of the cast
Olimar has a DACUS? How far does it go?
actually, its farther than that by at least 50%, and yes, it does cover the ground significantly faster, TBH its very underrated, i started doing it the my most recent irl tourney, and i got a few hits a hyphen smash wouldn't of got
Don't hate.
Considering that I'm discussing a character, how am I being offensive. If you said Marth is bad, you didn't say Marth players are bad, and hence I would have no need to take offense (and a lot of people say Marth is bad btw). I have no desire to entertain a conversation in which the opponent takes a literal defensive stance, instead of just pointing out and debating the qualities of the character. If, in my personal (and educated) opinion, I feel Olimar is overrated, orders from you will most certainly not stop me from saying so.
