Brawl-: Released. See the new thread up top in the sticky section ^^^^

[The Sex Puma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfK2tdwKZtg
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[Isatis]

10awesome

EDIT: I'll try to code what you suggested. No guarantees though >.<

Someone add Brawl- to the bottom or side and I can use this background for the homebrew one. LOL

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Quick question: How will I know if the snapshot loaded correctly? Will it be like the stage builder exploit? I looked at the snapshot and it didn't do anything... just showed me what it looked like. I don't know what the physics changes are and stuff like that, but I can tell that there isn't aerial momentum like in brawl+

Is it supposed to be like this?

It seems the most recent GCT actually doesn't have that code. Which is odd, because it seems like the PAL version does... I'm going to have to set myself up with a new GCT pretty soon. It's still the core of the hack, so having it be half-***** won't do.

As for how to see if it works... Well, does ganon's pawnch do 666?

Ganon:
NSpecial - Does 666% damage.

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-*boom*

Oh yeah. That's the idea. :D It's still almost never gonna connect, but now you have to be afraid. Very afraid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfK2tdwKZtg
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Could you link back to this thread and/or the Brawl- website in your video descriptions? That would be awesome. There are always a bunch of people wondering WTF Brawl- is and where to get it.

 

[ShermantheTank]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfK2tdwKZtg
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What stage is that on?

 

[Gamez1985]

""Now, we've seen brawl get better without really changing what it is. We've seen brawl become way better without really ****ing with things unnecessary. But this takes it to a whole new level.""

Your intro to this thread makes no sense. You are saying you can make Brawl better by not truly changing much of the core game. But you're doing the opposite. After going back and reading it, I get the idea that you MEANT to say "We've seen Brawl get better without REALLY changing it, here's how WE are changing it." You actually say the EXACT opposite though. Then again if you didn't say it wrong then the whole statement is false because you can't "takes it to a whole new level" (you said IT. IT being the subject of never changing anything DRASTICALLY from the sentences before.) while making things ""lolzomfg wtf is this lol" broken"

Saying it quickly: You don't make sense there. You can't make it "lolzomfg wtf is this lol - broken" AND "We've seen brawl become way better without really ****ing with things unnecessary. But this takes it to a whole new level." You can't take UnChanging Brawl as an example to Change it. That aside, you also used the word "unnecessary" it sho8uld have been "things that are'unnecessary " or "unnecessarily."

And for those who get offended by me nit-picking, or typing a whole lot: I'm just a person who loves Brawl so much I naturally have a lot to say. Secondly, Brawl- is cool in my book (as far as I can tell what it truly is.) I'm just finding my way of saying:

I came here to figure out what Brawl- is. The first several lines out of this thread confused the heck outta me though. I think I get it. Brawl- is supposed to be the Jack-in-the-Box surprise style experience while fighting in Brawl, yes? (Without making it unplayable? Right?)

 

[FrozenHobo]

What stage is that on?

its SSE Jungle. its used in B+. check brawlplus.net for the download.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

OCD much? xD

Thanks for letting me know. The idea behind brawl- is basically to break the **** out of the characters, give them crazy ****, etc. but still hold some semblance of balance. I'm going to try to put this in a more clean way. :V

 

[Fijoe]

I think I found a glitch with Mr. Game and Watch. If you die while doing N-air he will keep the parachute until he uses N-air/UpB. Also, sometimes Sheik will stay permanently invisible, until she uses a dodge/smash/UpB. IDK if this is a glitch or not.

 

[[TSON]]

Both of those are known

 

[ZacTASTIC]

It seems the most recent GCT actually doesn't have that code. Which is odd, because it seems like the PAL version does... I'm going to have to set myself up with a new GCT pretty soon. It's still the core of the hack, so having it be half-***** won't do.

As for how to see if it works... Well, does ganon's pawnch do 666?

Yes, Ganon's pawnch will do 666% damage, but isn't that part of the character .pac? Where can I find a .gct with all the glory of B-, then?

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

The File Patch Code is in the GCT; it's also one of the only really important things in there. That's how I check, anyways. A link to the GCT is in the first post.

The GCT really needs a revamp, though. I have no idea what should go in it, and what codes this project should use (beyond the obvious utility and file replacement codes).

 

[Leo Kitsune]

The File Patch Code is in the GCT; it's also one of the only really important things in there. That's how I check, anyways. A link to the GCT is in the first post.

The GCT really needs a revamp, though. I have no idea what should go in it, and what codes this project should use (beyond the obvious utility and file replacement codes).

I'm not sure if this is a GCT thing or not, but characters need to keep their running momentum when jumping during a dash. This trips me up bad with Falcon, for instance.

 

[STUFF2o]

The File Patch Code is in the GCT; it's also one of the only really important things in there. That's how I check, anyways. A link to the GCT is in the first post.

The GCT really needs a revamp, though. I have no idea what should go in it, and what codes this project should use (beyond the obvious utility and file replacement codes).

I say use Brawl+'s gct and make some minor changes here and there. The .pac's and the File Patch code are the main things anyways.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I'm not sure if this is a GCT thing or not, but characters need to keep their running momentum when jumping during a dash. This trips me up bad with Falcon, for instance.

This is a GCT thing that we are adding.

I say use Brawl+'s gct and make some minor changes here and there. The .pac's and the File Patch code are the main things anyways.

Duh.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP WITH GCT RIGHT NOW, ADD ME ON SKYPE AND GET IN THE CHAT! DISCUSSION IS HERE!!!

 

[Neo X]

ok so when i see the screwed up image in the album in my sd card, is something supposed to happen when i click on it (because nothing happened.)?

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

You click on it, and the codes should be applied. That's if you're using the snapshot method... Are you using a USB loader? Otherwise you don't need the snapshot, just the normal GCT.

 

[Neo X]

You click on it, and the codes should be applied. That's if you're using the snapshot method... Are you using a USB loader? Otherwise you don't need the snapshot, just the normal GCT.

Well i used Gecko OS. So in that case, is there like another method i can use?

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Just get the normal GCT (not the one with the snapshot) and use that.

 

[Neo X]

Just get the normal GCT (not the one with the snapshot) and use that.

ok i think i got it now! thanks for the help!

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

""Now, we've seen brawl get better without really changing what it is. We've seen brawl become way better without really ****ing with things unnecessary. But this takes it to a whole new level.""

Your intro to this thread makes no sense. You are saying you can make Brawl better by not truly changing much of the core game. But you're doing the opposite. After going back and reading it, I get the idea that you MEANT to say "We've seen Brawl get better without REALLY changing it, here's how WE are changing it." You actually say the EXACT opposite though. Then again if you didn't say it wrong then the whole statement is false because you can't "takes it to a whole new level" (you said IT. IT being the subject of never changing anything DRASTICALLY from the sentences before.) while making things ""lolzomfg wtf is this lol" broken"

Saying it quickly: You don't make sense there. You can't make it "lolzomfg wtf is this lol - broken" AND "We've seen brawl become way better without really ****ing with things unnecessary. But this takes it to a whole new level." You can't take UnChanging Brawl as an example to Change it. That aside, you also used the word "unnecessary" it sho8uld have been "things that are'unnecessary " or "unnecessarily."

And for those who get offended by me nit-picking, or typing a whole lot: I'm just a person who loves Brawl so much I naturally have a lot to say. Secondly, Brawl- is cool in my book (as far as I can tell what it truly is.) I'm just finding my way of saying:

I came here to figure out what Brawl- is. The first several lines out of this thread confused the heck outta me though. I think I get it. Brawl- is supposed to be the Jack-in-the-Box surprise style experience while fighting in Brawl, yes? (Without making it unplayable? Right?)

ok so what he is saying is that we have seen brawl get better without drastic changes and that is balanced brawl.

then he says we have seen it get better with a good amount of changes to the core game but nothing unnecessary that is brawl+

Now he wants to make a game were things are changed in a crazy way so everyone is broken and everyone can do crazy *** things thats the idea of brawl-

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

It's fixed.

 

[warpd]

DK can now spawn barrels...would it be alright if we could have Kirby spawn a star rod or warp star?

 

[Isatis]

To get progress on the homebrew updater...I'll need the following images converted to Brawl-:

http://code.google.com/p/brawlplusupdatifier/source/browse/#svn/trunk/source/images
background.png
button.png
button_dialogue_box.png
button_dialogue_box_over.png
button_over.png
outline_transparent.png
progressbar.png
progressbar_outline.png
progressbar_outline_dark.png
scrollbar_arrowdown.png
scrollbar_arrowup.png


Anyone want to step up to the plate?

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I would try but I fail (FAIL) with photoshop. I could just make the Brawl+ emblems fit like the the one on the forum page, but that would be sloppy...

 

[[TSON]]

Bomp for releases

 

[ZacTASTIC]

I wake up and find a wealth of new releases for minus... What a great start to my day. =D

 

[Hozu]

Hi guys, this may already be known but using Sonic's Neutral B against Bowser causes him to be locked into doing it repeatedly because Bowser doesn't take enough damage to be out of range from the next one. This may lead to some stupid stuff like the Bowser player just sitting there if he's ahead in lives until the time runs out for the win.

Also, could the knockback on some of Link's arrows (the normal and bomb ones I think they were) be nerfed so they can't kill at like... 100% or so? It's REALLY annoying in a FFA.

 

[smash_pilgrim]

I have a quick question regarding Luigi. - does anybody think he is a little to cheep, I mean with his dash tripping attack-thing, crawling/crouching super armer and down taunt. i personally think he is beatable but my little bro thinks he's invincible.

 

[King Funk]

Falco is amaaaaaaaaaaaazing. Thanks a LOT for having used my ideas!

 

[Epic Kovumon]

An idea for Snake.

How about IASA frames on his up-smash?

I'd love to see him being able to DACUS into an up-tilt. XD

 

[Crow!]

Link feels much more like he was balanced than like he was broken. I have put some suggestions for cool stuff on the Brawl- boards. (Link: http://brawlminus.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=15&pid=2876#pid2876).

In particular, rather than speeding up Zair and Usmash lag, just go all out and put in IASA frames. ZAir IASA goes right when the hitbox comes out, USmash goes sometime during the second swing to give Link a vertical jab cancel. It feels great, and it looks more broken than it really is, and it feels like stuff Link already does.

Something needs to happen upon DAir hitting the ground; simply reducing the lag is really boring. I put in a dk/pitfall-style grounding attack upon landing and it's cool.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I can't wait till the end of the month! gyaaaa make it faster!

 

[Epic Kovumon]

All I want is Snake.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

An idea for Snake.

How about IASA frames on his up-smash?

I'd love to see him being able to DACUS into an up-tilt. XD

**** that. We put the IASA right on the dash attack. I'm working on an alpha for snake, but it's going slowly and I don't really know what to do other than making his range even stupider. A few interesting changes are in there, but it feels kinda uninspired (especially because I'm bad at handling articles; I'm probably gonna pass it off to TSON for that)

I have a quick question regarding Luigi. - does anybody think he is a little to cheep, I mean with his dash tripping attack-thing, crawling/crouching super armer and down taunt. i personally think he is beatable but my little bro thinks he's invincible.

Luigi is probably going to get a nerf or two after alpha. The crouch super armor isn't as much of a problem as the fair, which just downright isn't. Also, misfire. >.>

Hi guys, this may already be known but using Sonic's Neutral B against Bowser causes him to be locked into doing it repeatedly because Bowser doesn't take enough damage to be out of range from the next one. This may lead to some stupid stuff like the Bowser player just sitting there if he's ahead in lives until the time runs out for the win.

Also, could the knockback on some of Link's arrows (the normal and bomb ones I think they were) be nerfed so they can't kill at like... 100% or so? It's REALLY annoying in a FFA.

I'm not that happy with the homing attack change at all, TBH; it could be done the same just by making the move faster.

I can't wait till the end of the month! gyaaaa make it faster!

It's not as if we have it all ready and are sitting on it laughing at you. We're trying to go for a certain quality here, and many chars just don't have it yet. A couple aren't made yet. So sit tight.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I'll try *sniff* *sniff*

This is my 777 post ever yay!

 

[Azuro]

I just saw a couple vids of this. Very, very interesting idea of making everyone viable by just making them super good.

 

[leafbarrett]

Hmm... If I made a Brawl- version of Kari, would you give it a shot and see if you want to include it as an alternate Lucario- moveset?

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

If a functional clone engine pops up to allow playing both. Before this, clone chars are not going to be included in official releases (afterwards, I'd gladly bring it to the table); what if someone wants to play Lucario in a tournament and their opponent wants Kari?

Also, I heard you did pikachu. Great job on the broken part, but holy **** why did Dsmash kill around 20?

 

[leafbarrett]

If a functional clone engine pops up to allow playing both. Before this, clone chars are not going to be included in official releases (afterwards, I'd gladly bring it to the table); what if someone wants to play Lucario in a tournament and their opponent wants Kari?

Also, I heard you did pikachu. Great job on the broken part, but holy **** why did Dsmash kill around 20?

It did? ._. ****, I need to test more.

And good point... All right, I'll hold off on making Kari-.

 

[[TSON]]

Hi guys, this may already be known but using Sonic's Neutral B against Bowser causes him to be locked into doing it repeatedly because Bowser doesn't take enough damage to be out of range from the next one. This may lead to some stupid stuff like the Bowser player just sitting there if he's ahead in lives until the time runs out for the win.

Bowser player needs moar up smash. Also recall that Sonic can somewhat influence his trajectory on homing attack.

Also, could the knockback on some of Link's arrows (the normal and bomb ones I think they were) be nerfed so they can't kill at like... 100% or so? It's REALLY annoying in a FFA.

No, cause then it wouldn't be broken :3

Also:
More people need to make vidyas.