Captain Falcon's Match-Up Database! | (General Discussion); UPDATED: April 18th, 2010

[A user name]

I think we really don't have to discuss using his bananas anymore.

 

[Darky-Sama]

All you need to know about the bananas is:

A) Keep one on you at all times to eliminate his banana locking.
B) Use it with Z-Drop -> Aerials to combo and regrab the banana.

 

[A user name]

It's pretty simple.

 

[A user name]

Look's like discussion is dead.

 

[A user name]

Well once people come here, what do you think for a match-up percent? I really don't know, but I'm thinking 25-75 or 30-70.

 

[Darky-Sama]

We just started on the discussion. Gotta give it some time so other people can post their opinions. Most match-up discussions run for about a week or so, until we're certain we have all the facts and info straight.

 

[Player-3]

c-c-c-combo breaker

 

[lordhelmet]

35-65 - Video (Ally 4:21 - 9:56)

• Utilize:

1. Jab>grab, FH nair>grab, utilt, dtilt
2. Uair, nair, and bair
3. Dash attack (grab bananas)

• Other tips:

1. Know how to handle your banana
2. Zdrop any bananas you catch or keep ahold of them for combos
3. Try to keep Diddy airborne

• CP:

1. RC
2. BF
3. YI
4. Brinstar

• Ban:

1. FD

That's what I got.

 

[Darky-Sama]

C-c-c-condom Breaker. :V

Also, uhh... we should probably invite the Diddy Boards over here to help discuss this match-up too. It can wait until some of the other Falcons post opinions though, I guess.

 

[bigbucks]

Lordy, those descriptions are outdated.

this matchup is actually one of the ones where its not auto win for the high tier.

We handle bananas as well as he does.

60-40

 

[Darky-Sama]

I wouldn't say we handle them as well as Diddy, but we've got more on him with 'em than most characters do.

Also, I wouldn't counterpick RC against a good Diddy. His air game is actually a pain, especially if he decides to throw bananas around in midair just to make us lose our jumps and gimp us. There's better stages to counterpick against a Diddy.

 

[lordhelmet]

Lordy, those descriptions are outdated.

this matchup is actually one of the ones where its not auto win for the high tier.

We handle bananas as well as he does.

60-40

lolwut

How is it outdated? I made it like two months ago. Play a good Diddy, then come back and tell me it's 40-60.

And I actually agree about RC, I got wrecked there a few times by Diddy.

 

[teluoborg]

I fought a Diddy last time, he just threw banana after banana, never trying any stupid gimmick.
Just naner>safe attack>other naner>safe attack>naner again> rince and repeat.

It was horrible.

Oh and Diddy airborne stil has Fair, which is a broken move.

 

[Player-3]

rc is diddys best stage








but falcon can **** turn on it so CP him there

 

[A user name]

We just started on the discussion. Gotta give it some time so other people can post their opinions. Most match-up discussions run for about a week or so, until we're certain we have all the facts and info straight.

I know that, I was just wondering what people thought at first before we discussed.

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

send him down off stage

later

 

[bigbucks]

Hey guys, San just posted some ike vs falcon info on the falcon xat.

interesting.

He tells us to Di out of jab, an counterattack after.
we must aproach fast too keep ike on his toes.

 

[A user name]

Why does this place die so easily?

 

[teluoborg]

Because people actually have life beside this board.

 

[A user name]

I don't have a life!

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

Why does this place die so easily?

Don't expect it to be on fire.
These discussions take time.

@Buck - Tell darky

 

[A user name]

Don't expect it to be on fire.
These discussions take time.

@Buck - Tell darky

If people actually discussed it, it would take less time.
And technically Darky is SUPPOSED to come here so he might his post.

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

dude cool it

we do discuss it
but you ruin the flow with your whining

so stop whining

so we can continue the **** discussion!

 

[A user name]

dude cool it

we do discuss it
but you ruin the flow with your whining

so stop whining

so we can continue the **** discussion!

Okay, I will.

 

[†Slader7†]

What character are we discussing or are we just chillin' ?

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

Lets go back onto diddy.

Approaches?

 

[Willz]

knee

+

pawnch

 

[Darxmarth23]

Look whos back son

I would say, you wait for him to approach. thats just my take on it. i don't have much diddy experience

 

[Willz]

use his nanerz against him, do amazing naner comboz, and space like a mutha****aaaa.

DASH ATTACK AS WELL THAT MOVE IS LEGIT!!!

 

[Darxmarth23]

I know one thing,

Diddys dash attack is *****

IASI frames at the end are often used.
I think aerial approaches are the best here, just because of the fact that you do need to space, and while you are in the air you have a better grip on spacing throughout the entire move.

 

[Darky-Sama]

Went out drinking for my cousin's birthday this weekend. So just calm down, I'll have the thing updated soon. It might take me some time to beef out the posts so they give everyone as much information as possible, but I still get everything done eventually.

I'll probably be taking it easy tonight with some Smirnoff, so I'll down it while working on the conclusions I'm missing.

What are we missing?

Diddy {discussion unfinished}
Dedede {discussion finished(?)/ conclusion unwritten}
Falco {discussion finished(?)/ conclusion unwritten}
Ike {discussion finished/ conclusion 50% finished}

 

[bigbucks]

Darky gonna get drunk.

 

[†Slader7†]

I still think we should invite representatives from the characters we are discussing.

 

[lordhelmet]

I went to the Diddy boards. I assume they didn't take me seriously.

 

[†Slader7†]

Well, one way to get their attention is to tell them something ridiculous like:
Diddy vs Falcon MU 75-25 Willz's 0-KO combo is legit

 

[Darky-Sama]

I'll post on their boards in a bit.

 

[lordhelmet]

I think you guys should try z-drop>falcon punch more.

It works if they go on a dtilt spampage xD

 

[A2ZOMG]

Falcon doesn't really strike me as having noteable trouble dealing with Bananas due to his mobility and fairly fluid air game, I think he has more trouble just dealing with the rest of Diddy's retardedly stupid attacks. And then getting gimped because his recovery sucks.

 

[Zeallyx]

75-25 Diddy.

 

[Darky-Sama]

No higher than 35:65 in this MU.
I'm leaning toward 30:70.

Diddy has us outranked in just about every aspect. Our speed doesn't really make up for most of it either since he controls the ground so well. Banana shenanigans can be used against him, but it's best to keep hold of a banana and stay in the air most of the time to bait him into a position to be punished via Z-Drop -> Aerial.

Oddly, Final Destination makes me feel much safer against Diddy than Battlefield. The platforms screw up my Z-Drop playstyle {judging that they even try to use many bananas on Battlefield} and Diddy's aerials can do more harm than our own.