Cardfight!! Vanguard

[Bing]

Yeah, Honestly you dont need 4 Perfect guards, I mean, having damage with an AF deck is like having a second hand, so perfect guards arent that great until late in the game.

 

[OBT]

Ok, here's how the AF deck looks right now:


Grade 0: 16
4x sunny smile (heal)
8x crit
4x draw

Grade 1: 15
3x PG's
4x bethnael
4x ponies (thousand ray Pegasus)
4x battle Cupid nociel

Grade 2: 11
3x love machine gun nociel
2x million ray pegasus
3x Armaros
3x barbiel (10k vanilla)

Grade 3: 8
3x shamsiel
3x Phoenix
2x kiriel

EDIT: Fixed with the cards I'm actually using.

 

[Bing]

Personally, I'd rather have Holy Zone's over 10k Vanilla's. I mean, regardless how you boost, its only going to take 1 card to guard, atleast with holy zone you have more protection.

 

[OBT]

Personally, I'd rather have Holy Zone's over 10k Vanilla's. I mean, regardless how you boost, its only going to take 1 card to guard, atleast with holy zone you have more protection.

I was never really a fan of interceptors, but I guess I can see how it works

 

[Bing]

Wow, Vanguard is like 50% of the adds im seeing LOL

 

[OBT]

I kinda want to build granblues after I'm done with my angel feathers, what's a good granblue build?

 

[Bing]

I dont really know, I was going to build a deck around Cocytus but I kind of abandoned that and sold all my gran blues

I'd recommend a few Ice Prison Necromancer, Cocytus
Some Deadly Nightmares and Dealy Spirits
Use Captain Night Kid as your SVG

Honestly I cant even remember what I was going to do. Just look on Pojo

 

[OBT]

I dont really know, I was going to build a deck around Cocytus but I kind of abandoned that and sold all my gran blues

I'd recommend a few Ice Prison Necromancer, Cocytus
Some Deadly Nightmares and Dealy Spirits
Use Captain Night Kid as your SVG

Honestly I cant even remember what I was going to do. Just look on Pojo

Funny you should say that, I have a cocytus, I have deadly nightmares/spirits, and I'm using CNK as my SVG

 

[Get@Will]

Funny you guys be talkin bout Granblue. I sat down with a friend one day and we were like,

"Man, Granblue is terrible. They have nothing going for them."
"Yeah, that's true. They revive stuff, but it's a break even at best."
"Yeah...."
"Yeah..."

.....

"Let's make a Granblue deck."
"Ok"


[collapse=l0l granblue's clues]G0: 17
Guiding Zombie
4x Doctor Rouge
4x Ghoul Cannonball
4x Knight Spirit
4x Rough Seas Banshee

G1: 15
4x Dancing Cutlass
3x Deadly Nightmare
3x Samurai Spirit
3x Gust Jinn
2x Evil Shade

G2: 10
4x Ruin Shade
4x Deadly Spirit
2x Captain Nightmist

G3: 8
4x Cocytus
4x Basskirk[/collapse]

You mill ****, you revive ****, and you kill ****. Any card you draw can turn either into a 9k attacker or 7k booster as long as Deadly Spirit/Deadly Nightmare's in the drop zone. You will have no problem milling them from Guiding Zombie, Ruin Shade, and Evil Shade.

"OMGWTF WHY DO YOU PLAY GUIDING ZOMBIE INSTEAD OF NIGHT KID1!?!111?!?"
Cause I just wanna mill ****. Deal with it.

As for 12 crits, Granblue has to do too much work for little to no reward. Cocytus' effect is decent, but requires you to have what you need in your drop which won't always work out in your favor. There is no advantage engine in Granblue besides Cocytus' effect and Dancing Cutlass. Need to play 12 crits so I can at least threaten my opponent for game very fast and very early on.

GP has Garmore which is the best recruiter in the game and grabbing a Dindrane from your deck for a +2 is gg. Nova Graps if they drive check a G3 they just obliterate you. Even RP has Palamedes which ****s on your face for no reason. All these decks have some sort of advantage engine, which Granblue lacks. Granblue's greatest strength (l0l), imo, is its ability to have pretty much a stable field at all points of the game, which is what this deck tries to emphasize.

pirates yo l0l

 

[Bing]

Yo will, I totally approve of this build, its similar to the one I was making until I said pfft **** this clan

 

[Get@Will]

l0l yeah hahah

what did granblue do to deserve this l0l

 

[Lore]

I got a Kagero deck! I'll post a list later.

Also, are you guys fine with this thread being here? It isn't really a video game or anything, so I figured I would ask to see if you guys want to move it to the pool room or something. It doesn't really matter though, haha.

 

[Get@Will]

Do post your list. The more people the better. =D

I don't really mind. Maybe(?) it'd help people find it easier if it were in the pool room like ygo and magic, maybe not. Up to op though l0l

 

[Bing]

Yeah I couldn't care less



Btw guys I just want to confirm this. If I ride black dragon knight vortimer on scout of darkness, activating his effect of basically superior calling the top two cards of my deck, and the first card I turn is a lop ear. I'd finish bdk, vortimers effect and then do lop ears right?

 

[Get@Will]

Y e

 

[Lore]

Here's the list!

Spoiler

Vanguard: Conroe (duh)

G0
4x Gattling claw dragon
4x Dragon Monk, Genjo
4x Demonic Dragon Mage, Rakshasa
4x Blue Ray Dracokid

8 crit, 4 draw, 4 heal

G1
2x Wyvern Guard, Barri
3x Embodiment of Armor, Bahr
3x Iron Tail Dragon
3x Wyvern Strike, Jarran
2x Demonic Dragon Mage, Kimnara

G2
2x Wyvern Strike, Tejas
3x Flame Edge Dragon
2x Dragon Knight, Nehalem
3x Blazing Core Dragon
2x Dragon Knight, Berger

G3
2x Seal Dragon, Blockade
2x Dragonic Lawkeeper
3x Dragonic Overlord
1x Blazing Flare Dragon

I'm trying to decide on the G2 slot, but otherwise this is pretty solid.

 

[Bing]

I think you should use more Nehalem's, other then that looks legit

 

[OBT]

Yeah, you could drop the 2 bergers for 2 nehalems

 

[Bing]

mmm burgers....

 

[Vixen]

Run 4 PG in every deck or you're bad.

Kiriel is terrible, take her out for 4/4 Sham/Calamity.

Lancet Shooter is 100% better than Bethanial.

Best GP deck.

Oh btw I actually like GB a lot. They have the most consistent way of always having a perfect, scaled field. Also, 12 crit.

People just suck.

@Were: Move it wherever you guys see fit. I didn't mean to make it in lighthouse lols.

Btw selling things.

x2 Viviane $10 /ea
x2 Duke $15 /ea
x1 Ezel $15

or i'll sell all of my GP stuff together for like $250.

Want to keep garmore.dek together if possible, but if someone wants to buy it off me that's chill.

 

[Bing]

Wow you're terribad. Get on my level.

<333


Sorry Mizuki, My Skype decided to go all homo for some reason.

 

[Get@Will]

l0l gaygantech destroyer

 

[Vixen]

lol 21k columns.

 

[OBT]

I WOULD run 4 shamsiel if I had the money :/

I just bought my last 3 battle cupids and 3 march hares for a friend, so I'll see of I can find a shamsiel for trade

Also I'm pretty comfortable with 3 PG's. It's working for me.

 

[Vixen]

Don't be a bad player. Don't justify running less than 4, just freaking run 4.

 

[Bing]

If you can't run 4 then up the draw triggers I'd say

 

[OBT]

Don't be a bad player. Don't justify running less than 4, just freaking run 4.

Hmuh, I'm doing fine with 3, so I'll stick with it until I feel it's necessary to have 4.

 

[Vixen]

Go back to Yugioh.

To put your argument in smash terms, it would be like saying

"Oh, I don't L-Cancel with Falco because it just works for me."

"Oh, I don't jump cancel my shine."

"Oh, I don't upthrow with Fox."

Get how ****ing ****ty your argument is? You run 4 because:

A. you increase your chance of drawing them.
B. you lessen the pain of having to ride it turn 1.
C. It is necessary to run 4 because decks like OTT, Royal, Kagero, Nova exist. On-hit decks, Silent Tom, and vanguards/RGs that swing at you for 3-4 stages of guard necessitate 4 PG.

 

[OBT]

Go back to Yugioh.

To put your argument in smash terms, it would be like saying

"Oh, I don't L-Cancel with Falco because it just works for me."

"Oh, I don't jump cancel my shine."

"Oh, I don't upthrow with Fox."

Get how ****ing ****ty your argument is? You run 4 because:

A. you increase your chance of drawing them.
B. you lessen the pain of having to ride it turn 1.
C. It is necessary to run 4 because decks like OTT, Royal, Kagero, Nova exist. On-hit decks, Silent Tom, and vanguards/RGs that swing at you for 3-4 stages of guard necessitate 4 PG.

Don't gotta be like that :/

I was getting one from a trade as trade bait, so I guess I'll use it, just calm down like, jeez

No need to attack me for my preference in playing a card game.

Seriously, you're taking it really out of hand.

And why the **** would I go back to that broken *** game? It was fun when I was 8, not anymore.

EDIT: Vanguard ads EVERYWHERE

 

[Lore]

Chill guys, chill.

Anyway, is Blazing Flare worth building around? I'm thinking about switching to a Lawkeeper build.

... And a DOTE build in February, heh.

 

[Get@Will]

Depends what your style is. Blazing Flare is too much work for little reward. It's pretty much a vanguard with a 1 time effect (soul blast 5 is stupid crazy cost). In other words it's pretty bad l0l

If you like rearguard control, Goku is the way to go. If you wanna punch *****es in the face, Lawkeeper'll be your thing and the occasional +1 (if it ever happens lol) is pretty nice.

edit: so much anger

 

[OBT]

Depends what your style is. Blazing Flare is too much work for little reward. It's pretty much a vanguard with a 1 time effect (soul blast 5 is stupid crazy cost). In other words it's pretty bad l0l

If you like rearguard control, Goku is the way to go. If you wanna punch *****es in the face, Lawkeeper'll be your thing and the occasional +1 (if it ever happens lol) is pretty nice.

edit: so much anger

I second this, I tried blazing flare, didn't work out so well.

I like the lawkeeper build better

 

[Vixen]

Stupid players make me mad. I didn't "attack" you, I just put your "argument" in to context by being as brutal as I could. I refuse to be a part of a hugbox community. If you can't rework your "preferences" when they're clearly wrong, this isn't your game.

In other news, Bing is a huge sack.

 

[Bing]

Oh you so salty that I won 3/4 games. Now we know that my Nova Grapplers > Your Gold Paladins >:-)

I keed I keed, good games lol

 

[Get@Will]

l0l h4 h4

 

[Vixen]

Now we know that Bing sacks 2 pass, and heal triggers consistently.

...and makes bad plays, too.

 

[OBT]

Stupid players make me mad. I didn't "attack" you, I just put your "argument" in to context by being as brutal as I could. I refuse to be a part of a hugbox community. If you can't rework your "preferences" when they're clearly wrong, this isn't your game.

In other news, Bing is a huge sack.

Well now you're calling me stupid. Just chill out. Instead of insulting me, just point out why what I'm doing is wrong and CALMLY tell me what I can do to fix it. You don't have to say that I'm stupid or bad. Besides, I already have one more PG on the way anyway.

 

[Bing]

Now we know that Bing sacks 2 pass, and heal triggers consistently.

...and makes bad plays, too.

Makes bad plays eh? Who won 3/4 out of 4 games? Yeah thats right, this guy. The one game you beat me I didnt even get a trigger except for the Battleraizer I started with. THE SALT. ITS EVERYWHERE. HOW DOES IT TASTE? HOW DOES IT FEEL!? GRITTY RIGHT?


<3 you.


Also everyone, calm your ****, and move on, we have a very small community here on smashboards, lets not **** it up.

Otherwise Im going to call 3 Love Machine Gun's and blow you all away... with love.

Also is Banquet of Divas coming out the 3rd or the 10th

The Vanguard Wikia says November 3rd EN, Singapore. November 10th EN, International.

 

[Vixen]

Well now you're calling me stupid. Just chill out. Instead of insulting me, just point out why what I'm doing is wrong and CALMLY tell me what I can do to fix it. You don't have to say that I'm stupid or bad. Besides, I already have one more PG on the way anyway.

Stop getting defensive and saying stupid things and I'll stop being abrasive.

In other news, I'm going to contribute video content for SWF/Vmundi.

I posted my first video earlier in the thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMHBLX5j-C4

Garmore vs Amon. I lose this. Point out what could have been done better!

 

[Bing]

Ill watch later when everyone leaves.