Celebrity Rehab Mafia: Day 5 Begins! Deadline is Monday, May 28th at 11:59 PM EST!

[Rajam]

Rajam any opinion on Red Ryu?

Town. At first I thought he was going to tunnel all day with the policy lynch idea on Axel, but when he got called out early in the Day for that, he dropped it and a little later started to provide real content.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Alright. Do you think it's possible that one of Macman/Marshy can be scum with X1? (Relating to them being on his wagon for little to no reasoning)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

lolololol

Vote: X1

 

[Orboknown]

basically caught up. macman or marshy might be scummy, more marshy for just wanting to push through any lynch. X1 can be lynched now.

Unvote Vote:X1 12

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Vynil, vote X1 plz. : 3

 

[Rajam]

Alright. Do you think it's possible that one of Macman/Marshy can be scum with X1? (Relating to them being on his wagon for little to no reasoning)

I haven't even checked the wagon to have reads based on that

. So far by vote analysis the only scummy one is Macman's on X1.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Rajam did you crumb anything about your role?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also multiple cops, thoughts on this?

 

[Pink Lemonade]

I haven't even checked the wagon to have reads based on that

. So far by vote analysis the only scummy one is Macman's on X1.

Really? I felt Marshy was scummier actually. Just because he was ok with X1 dying without a CC, like he didn't even care. Seemed like he was trying to appear like town there.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Marshy was willing to do that as town in Math Blasters.

 

[Orboknown]

@RR unless it's like OS said with different sanity/results, one is scum.

 

[Vinylic.]

Caught up. Person of interest was frozen until now.

Vote: X1

 

[Pink Lemonade]

so im still fine with x1 dying. if yall seriously wanna keep him around when its very possible that a tailor/framer/lawyer/roleblocker/jailkeeper could totally and completely **** his results then cool

Bold, he's keeping his options open here by saying;

Underlined, that if there is a tailor/framer/lawyer/rb/jk then it's fine with him if others want to keep him alive.

He doesn't really state an opinion of believing X1's claim or not. It's just koo if X1 dies if everyone else wants it.

Marshy can die after X1.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Marshy was willing to do that as town in Math Blasters.

ahem ahem.

 

[Rajam]

Rajam did you crumb anything about your role?

No. I don't like crumbing and the only time I crumbed anything was in SMRPG because of a mixture of RVS-trolling plus I could explicitly put a crumb of my role Toadofsky without risking someone guessing the role lol

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Ahem what? What do you mean.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Those points you brought up he has done in other games and flipped town.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

So? I'm not going on meta. I'm going on his actions here. He was on X1's wagon for no damn reason. I think that's damning to him.

What is your read on Marshy, RR?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Vote: X1

Really? I felt Marshy was scummier actually. Just because he was ok with X1 dying without a CC, like he didn't even care. Seemed like he was trying to appear like town there.

What do you mean by the bolded

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That's stupid.

If he does it in every game he plays it's not a tell for him.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

unvote

Don't want a QL before X1 posts.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Marshy is null.

 

[Rajam]

Really? I felt Marshy was scummier actually. Just because he was ok with X1 dying without a CC, like he didn't even care. Seemed like he was trying to appear like town there.

When I checked the votecount around the time X1 claimed, Macman's vote in there called my attention because I remembered him voting against X1 very early in the game so I went to check if it was the same vote and how it developed (aka check if Macman added something else on X1). I still haven't checked how marshy's vote developed so I have no oppinion on that.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Vote: X1



What do you mean by the bolded

I mean that he keeps his options open so that if X1 flipped, that he would gain town cred for being ok with his lynch, regardless of what he flipped because he was ok with it if others were ok with it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also multiple cops, thoughts on this?

Still wondering about this.

I want to figure out a way to ask one of them what kinds of results they get without the other copy and pasting it.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

That's stupid.

If he does it in every game he plays it's not a tell for him.

Who cares. I'm looking at his intentions and actions in this game, not his meta.

Did he do this when it came to scum?

 

[Pink Lemonade]

When I checked the votecount around the time X1 claimed, Macman's vote in there called my attention because I remembered him voting against X1 very early in the game so I went to check if it was the same vote and how it developed (aka check if Macman added something else on X1). I still haven't checked how marshy's vote developed so I have no oppinion on that.

I agree I didn't like Macman's vote on him either. I'd like for you to look at the quote I brought up about Marshy though if you can.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Who cares. I'm looking at his intentions and actions in this game, not his meta.

Did he do this when it came to scum?

I've only seen him play as town.

And yes it matters or your going to lynch people mechanically that can be avoided.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

I mean did he do this to a person who flipped scum afterwards?

 

[#HBC | J]

Axel / J is the most scummy player after X1. I don't have particular scum points on him, but I have a theory: Back when Inferno was still in play he mentioned Axel several times with some weak accusations, and suddenly... he replaced out. Given that I know now X1 (Inferno) is scum, I think there's a decent chance Inferno replaced out because their scum partners were being an *** with him. I know Zen is a cool guy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted Inferno to play in a certain way and Inferno didn't agree. A little after Zen replaced out due to Red Ryu's policy lynch thing, and it is strange but if he was already frustrated with Inferno then it becomes more understandable. Welp this is a crazy theory but anyways I'm strongly considering it and I'll be specially looking at J. If other players reread Inferno interactions with Axel I think this theory will gain some credibility.

Okay real talk, listen you, Zen does crazy things and yes he can be a bit brusque at times but when he is scum he works together with his scum-buddies in a cordial manner and wouldn't do something as bad as force someone out of a game just to try some crazy stuff. Its just slandering him in a way that I don't like and then saying that he replaced out as well due to it being as some elaborate plan in order to make the scum-team look better and using the excuse of being hurt by RR as a reason to replace out is just not true at all. Zen would not do that type of thing and I am offended for him since he can't adequately defend himself since he isn't here because this type of talk is just something that is crazy. Your theory is just that, a theory. You have even said yourself you have no scum-points against this slot but are trying to back-up a scum-read by using the weird as heck conspiracy theory that is just making my head spin because of what it says about Zen.

^^My response normally.

Well that's an interesting theory but its not true at all. It doesn't really make any sense. It's also not true. Lynch you instead? Yeeeeeea.

Vote: Rajam

J/k what am I talking about, lynch obvscum X1-Inferno.

Vote: X1-12

^^Zen's response

@Macman: I'll get to you in a sec, alright?

 

[Pink Lemonade]

I have a theory about Zen replacing out. I feel he did it to put the pressure on RR for the policy lynch. Like to see if RR was genuine or not. I liked what Zen did.

I didn't like the way RR reacted to Zen replacing out, and RR didn't really have much else to go on. It felt like he was just trying to look town by doing that, and obviously he had not other observations of other people at the time. Vandy also touched on how RR just had kinda nullish reads and wasn't really doing much else. I don't think his 'gambit' would have really gained anything.

I also find his meta thing grimy in regards to Marshy.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I mean did he do this to a person who flipped scum afterwards?

Yes he did.

Math Blasters.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I have a theory about Zen replacing out. I feel he did it to put the pressure on RR for the policy lynch. Like to see if RR was genuine or not. I liked what Zen did.

 

[#HBC | J]

I have a theory about Zen replacing out. I feel he did it to put the pressure on RR for the policy lynch. Like to see if RR was genuine or not. I liked what Zen did.

This wasn't his reasoning though...if he would have done that he would have fake-replaced out and told me about this beforehand.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Ah ok. Got ya. Even so, I still didn't like RR's reaction to it.

 

[#HBC | J]

I actually disagree, I like his reaction to what he did to Zen as I explained to Vandy, it felt sincere to me. However RR needs to do stuffs.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Ah ok. Yeah deff do think RR should do stuffs too. : 3

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

J, do you think asking X1 for how he gets results then Rajam confirming it is the way to go?

 

[#HBC | J]

X1 should totally do that if he gets here before he is lynched. I know I won't be able to stop the vets in terms of just QL'ing X1 if you have any further questions. At this point though, X1 just needs to be lynched now that Rajam CC'd. If X1 flips town Cop, we have our nice friendly vig shoot Rajam toNight.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

X1 tell us what kinds of results you get, then Rajam can do the same.