Diddy Kong AT: The B.O.A.T. Combo --- A Guide (4/6/10)

[Ingulit]

Also, @ Xyro. Just thought I should let you know that 'Samus' and 'Xyro' have inadvertantly started to become synonymous in my mind. I frequently mix the 2 words without realizing it. Awesome for you. Sad for me.

Lol meatriding, but tbh that's actually happened for me too

I'm tempted to make a parody video of my main BOAT vid with your new definition x)

 

[Kaptain Kong]

you could you do fthrow -> dash attack -> footstool -> banana pluck and hit them in time before they recover
imma go test soon

 

[Player-1]

fthrow>dash attack>diddy hump?

I already tested it and it worked, except IDK if they could've AD or DIed up/away enough.

 

[Grizzer]

fthrow>dash attack>diddy hump?

I already tested it and it worked, except IDK if they could've AD or DIed up/away enough.

haha, doing that so the hump hits offstage would be awesome against certain characters

 

[Ingulit]

fthrow>dash attack>diddy hump?

I already tested it and it worked, except IDK if they could've AD or DIed up/away enough.

That sounds amazing, especially against characters that fall victim to the DHGR > Footstool. I'll try to make a video of that soon :D

 

[mdmfromdaridge]

Yeah it does sound pretty awesome.

 

[Grizzer]

That sounds amazing, especially against characters that fall victim to the DHGR > Footstool. I'll try to make a video of that soon :D

is upB spike guaranteed out of a footstool in mid-air? cause i believe it is

 

[Kaptain Kong]

yep, but the timing varies per character

 

[DFEAR]

as long as u do the upb immediately after the footstool it shouldnt vary really. also boat combo to dair off stage is really too good...

have u ever tried backthrow?

 

[Ingulit]

as long as u do the upb immediately after the footstool it shouldnt vary really. also boat combo to dair off stage is really too good...

have u ever tried backthrow?

Yes, I have tried a B-Throw, and it (in the form of a Boosted Pivot Grab) helps in the combo below on Luigi (see the video).

fthrow>dash attack>diddy hump?

I already tested it and it worked, except IDK if they could've AD or DIed up/away enough.

Well, I went on ahead and made a video for demonstration purposes. I think Luigi can avoid the combo in the video by DIing away from you, but considering you're using B-Throw, the Luigi might not be expecting it.


BOAT > Diddy Hump --- Video
All credit goes to Player-1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBgE1slWO1A

 

[mdmfromdaridge]

as long as u do the upb immediately after the footstool it shouldnt vary really. also boat combo to dair off stage is really too good...

have u ever tried backthrow?

Unfortunately DI ruins the Dair. At least it did for me....

 

[Kaptain Kong]

@ingulit
nice, but couldn't the luigi easily survive with tornado?

 

[Ingulit]

@ingulit
nice, but couldn't the luigi easily survive with tornado?

That's where the Footstool > Barrel Spike comes in, which I didn't do.

 

[chimpact]

I'm pretty sure they can't tornado that well because you footstool them and ruin their momentum. Kinda like when Diddy gets hit right before he does his barrels, he kind of fast falls while charging them.

 

[Kaptain Kong]

oh ok, so this could be a really useful trick against luigi
that is, if they dont see it coming

 

[Ingulit]

Note that B-Throw seems to be more consistent than F-Throw, if only because they opponent PROBABLY won't be DIing the right way the first time (if they DI away from you, the DA won't hit; Luigi isn't guaranteed). In any case, I *think* the B-Throw sends them at a more favorable angle than F-Throw, too.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Im pretty sure this falls under the BOAT combo category. If your back throw is stale then you could back throw to f throw marth for like 18%. Might also work on ddd

 

[Ingulit]

Im pretty sure this falls under the BOAT combo category. If your back throw is stale then you could back throw to f throw marth for like 18%. Might also work on ddd

Holy crap, this works O.o You can chain a B-Throw into a Buffered Dash Grab on Marth and Dedede if your B-Throw is stale (even just a little). I'll make a video when I'm done with the hitbubbles, but nice find (I've never heard of this).

EDIT: Omg, you can chain stale B-Throws together on Dedede until 18%... The funniest looking 18% I've ever seen

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Thanks. I would have made videos long ago but I have no capture card.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Another thing I've been working on is GT to B-throw to instant ground trow. maybe we can find something useful with this

 

[Kaptain Kong]

wouldn't the banana throw be too late?
also, air throws have weird trajectories

 

[SaveMeJebus]

yeah but they need to predict a throw or a grab

 

[Kaptain Kong]

are you trying to hit them in the air after the throw or on when they hit the stage?
cuz hitting them in the air would probably be harder to do

 

[SaveMeJebus]

trying to punish the sidestep they might do if they predict a grab

 

[Kaptain Kong]

wait, after you throw them, you throw the naner, they spot dodge expecting a grab?
if they see you jump i dont think they would expect a grab
and also why wouldnt you just punish with a regular naner throw the naner's right there anyway

idk, i can't figure out what the idea is here

 

[SaveMeJebus]

because instant throwing is faster than just picking up the banana. this actually might be legit at lower percents on certain chars if you stale the b-throw

 

[Kaptain Kong]

ok, i'll go test it

edit: instant throw doesnt work. as i thought, the throw goes too far at the lower percents where it might have worked.

i tried regular throw, it worked, but idk if it was legit or not

 

[SaveMeJebus]

when I tried it on marth it seemed like it would work. maybe it only works on tall or big chars

 

[Ingulit]

The idea is to use the Instant Ground Throw, like he said: Short Hop and IMMEDIATELY Instant Throw, which afaik is the fastest way to throw a grounded Banana. If you did a Glide Toss to B-Throw, the Banana would be right there and you'd likely hit them if you do it fast enough.

We need a general "Combos and Ideas" thread. I nominate SaveMeJebus to make it; you're making one hell of an entrance to the boards.

 

[vato_break]

Jebus is a very good diddy from Socal guys. i play with him all the time(he's my training partner) he has consistantly placed well in socal. so he does have expeience he just barley made an account. lol

 

[Player-1]

The idea is to use the Instant Ground Throw, like he said: Short Hop and IMMEDIATELY Instant Throw, which afaik is the fastest way to throw a grounded Banana. If you did a Glide Toss to B-Throw, the Banana would be right there and you'd likely hit them if you do it fast enough.

We need a general "Combos and Ideas" thread. I nominate SaveMeJebus to make it; you're making one hell of an entrance to the boards.

tytytytytyty

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=187460&highlight=p1+chaingrab

 

[SaveMeJebus]

yeah someone should totally make a "Combos and Ideas" thread. I'm not really good when it comes to using computers and I also type really slow . But I sure would like to share all of my combo ideas with you guys

 

[Kaptain Kong]

The idea is to use the Instant Ground Throw, like he said: Short Hop and IMMEDIATELY Instant Throw, which afaik is the fastest way to throw a grounded Banana. If you did a Glide Toss to B-Throw, the Banana would be right there and you'd likely hit them if you do it fast enough.

We need a general "Combos and Ideas" thread. I nominate SaveMeJebus to make it; you're making one hell of an entrance to the boards.

yeah, but the throw keeps missing for me... it goes barely over marth and ddd's head
that combos and ideas thread is a cool idea. i actually like testing stuff out so i can help in that way