"Dragonic Reverse" -- Yoshi Can Wavedash!

[Shiri]

>___>

 

[Fawriel]

Shouldn't it be Draconic Reverse?

o__o

Smooth Criminal

Shouldn't you be Eggz?

 

[Scarlet Jile]

Shouldn't it be Draconic Reverse?

o__o

Smooth Criminal

I've actually thought about that, haha.

But until general consensus agrees, we have to at least respect the title given by the folks who discovered it.

Poorly translated though it may be.

 

[Mac Matrix]

I don't think it sounds that bad.

I don't have a classic controller (I attempted to use the Wiimote yesterday, and failed against my 6-year old sister >_>) so I can only use a GC pad with this.

But there's so many pages to this topic that I can't find out what the easiest way to perform this is? Please excuse me for being such a noob here about this, but I want to learn this.

Can someone point out the way to do this? (sorry for asking. ><) If anybody wants feel free to get my MSN if it'll make helping me out a little easier.

^^;

 

[Scarlet Jile]

Well, if you have tap jump still on, press X or Y, and then Up + A at the same time in rapid succession.

If you don't have tap jump on, press X or Y twice rapidly (the same button twice), and A in conjunction with the second jump.

Has to be extremely fast. Try it in 1/4 speed to figure out what you're doing first.

 

[Bwett]

scarlet, i have to say...your sig is the greatest of all. It makes me proud to be a yoshi main lol

 

[bigman40]

I got my recorder to work at my mom's house (working FTW and FTL). I'll be recording matches with me attempting the newer techs (DR, SJ, maybe infinite and ELFS).

 

[Gindler]

I couldn't even do this in 1/4 speed. And trying for a good 10 minutes without getting it once is so heartbreaking.

 

[Shiri]

Keep at it. It just takes a few random times before you actually realize what the timing is.

 

[bigman40]

It is tough at first, but when you start finding the timing (which I believe I posted earlier). you'll get it down relatively quickly. I'll get some more stuff on it so it'll help you guys out.

 

[Mac Matrix]

Okay, thanks. =)

I left tapjump on, as I've been too lazy to change any of the GC pad settings. Is it easier that way?

YOSHI FOR THE ULTIMATE WIN.

 

[D1]

So Basically I jump twice really quickly and input the nair command while tilting forward and I should do the pseudo wavedash w/ Yoshi?

 

[bigman40]

yep. Glad to see you come back to Yoshi. ^__^

 

[D1]

Haha yeah its funny...my other chars can handle the rest of the cast pretty well but MK seems to be my biggest problem...

...for some reason when I go Yoshi vs. MK things seem so much easier probably cuz of the guaranteed usmash after the grab release CGs..

...anyway yeah its glad to be back ^.^

I can already DR on my first try but only in place...

...soon I"ll start going forward and back w/ more practice.

Earlier today I mastered Boost Pivot Grabbin CGs w/ Falco so this shouldn't be so tough on my fingers.

 

[Speedsk8er]

This was possible in Melee. Hell, i did this many time by mistake with Yoshi in Melee because I was used to Mewtwo's DJC.

Still, this is too good in Brawl. Hooray for Yoshi. ^_^

Oh yeah but here's a question. Does Yoshi get some of the Super Armor frames of his DJ when doing this?

 

[KiwiBear]

Yoshi is INCREDIBLY flinch resistant on his DJ. I know yoshi in and out and i can tell you his biggest weakness is against zelda. :|

 

[Scarlet Jile]

scarlet, i have to say...your sig is the greatest of all. It makes me proud to be a yoshi main lol

Thank you, thank you.

*Bow*

 

[Fawriel]

So, if this becomes an established AT used in tournaments and stuff...

Are we going to call it "waveyoshing"?

 

[eggs-on-toast]

hey i picked up Yoshi like the other day and have most techs like egg toss sliding and stuff down and well and i'm trying this one now. I'm still kinda confused tho I cancel the aireal while standing still and puffs off clouds come out, can anyone tell me if thats like what i should be doing if i'm stading still?

Also how do I do the slide I can't seem to slide after doing it I just seem to cancel it and keep walking.

 

[Alopex]

I still can't do this. I have my GC controller set up so that X is jump and Y is shield. L is also shield despite the fact that I never use it since it's just waaaay too slow. Also tap jumping is off and... I kinda want to keep it that way, otherwise the second jump gets in the way of up commands.

So should I set L to be jump as well, or...?

I think I might need step-by-step instructions...

 

[bigman40]

If you barely use your L button to shield, then try using it with jump. X L Cstick/A might do good for you.

 

[Chaco]

Just wondering, but has anyone pointed out that it should be "Draconic Reverse".

 

[bigman40]

Has already been, Chaco.

And here's the guide for Dragonic Reverse

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=3vxG2Sfnpnc

 

[Chaco]

Cool, I'll watch it. Sorry I didn't send you anything.

EDIT: I can totally help you with the next part of this. Using DR as an approch, and aslo as a finisher. (it owns) But all in all a good guide. And I'm still learning to space with DR, It works excellently. But it depends on what move you do it with, I recommend ftilt so you don't decay your fsmash.

 

[bigman40]

It's alright. I had enough from a few other people, plus I gave you the credit for the ones at the end =P

 

[Chaco]

Yeah, I have two blocks left on my replay saving and looking through those was hard. I had a spacing replay, but I couldn't find it.

 

[Depster]

The video was taken down... But I switched to the CC and am getting ok at it now and am trying to use it in matches, but when I fail I still do good things =0

 

[Chaco]

It's back up.

 

[bigman40]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_s0EDOH7MAM

 

[Mac Matrix]

Bigman, you are awesome.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Fantastic Tutorial Bigman, I'd recommend incorporating in the description the easiest method with and without Tap Jump.

 

[Big Red]

Awesome vid Bigman! I'm really starting to get hardcore about practicing this, I can't wait to be able to incorperate it into my game!

 

[smaci92]

this is awesome...

 

[yoshiunity]

This is a very effective manuver. I'm testing it out now. I'm got the DR part down on the 1/2... sort of (Still trying to attack with it.). But incorperating it at regular speed is tough indeed. Any tips on accomplishing it with a classic controller? Sense to feel of the controller is different and all.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Eurgh my Y button sticks, anyone got a good GC method with tap jump off not involving Y. I had to learn to jump with X because of this thing.

Btw Anyone experimented with Wiimote+chuck. It seems that would make it quite easy.

 

[bigman40]

@BS: You can try doing either X X A, or X L A/C-stick, where L is set as jump.

@yoshiunity: CC is what I use. Set L to atk, and slide your thumb, pressing X Y L/C-stick.

I'll update my description with explanation on what I believe is the best for each controller. Check on it at about 6 pm EST.

 

[Kiwikomix]

Meh. I use R for jump (just cause I'm left handed) but I never thought of DR with it. I can barely do it at 2/3 speed, lol.

 

[bigman40]

That's one of the hardest parts. Getting it on 2/3, normal speed, and implementing it, is the hardest of learning the move.

 

[Kiwikomix]

No... I mean, I can barely do it in place at 2/3. I still can't get it to move left and right.
meh.
*goes to practice*

 

[bigman40]

I actually think setting jump to R makes things harder (I'm left-handed too). You could probably try X R Cstick/A.