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Ganondorf Board's Question & Answer Thread.
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SaltyKracka
Smash Lord
Don't, but if you have to, a BDCed SHAD will probably do the trick. If your enemy doesn't have a projectile, then Dtilt will serve you in good stead for ground spacing, and Uair will serve for aerial spacing. One of my favorite tricks is to catch somebody in a retreating aerial with Wizkick.
zaborg2400
Smash Cadet
well, i officially considered ganon my brawl main after i looked in records and my most used shifted to the dorf himself. and 4 sum reason, no matter how many times i try, i CANNOT get this ****ed flight of ganon 2 werk!! i must have seen a million vids and threads on how 2 do it, and it seems that im doing everything perfectly, but im not getting any satisfying results. altho i did manage 2 do flight of mario. 
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
Well I'm not sure how much help I can offer since you've seen all the vids and whatnot but personally I've found them slightly misleading.
First of all you can do the FoG by doing the wizardfoot rollout onto the stage and then mashing jump and b while holding down.
But that's not very practical so I'd skip that one all together.
For the more practical version that you can use anywhere there is solid ground what you do is this:
1. Double-jump. Don't use your second jump too close to the ground or you won't get the height required to perform actions after the upcoming airdodge.
2. Immediately after using your second jump, airdodge so that you rise as you dodge.
3. Right before you hit the ground, jump.
(If you jump with the little second-jump rings before you hit the ground you have the timing right, so it's good to practice this with just jumping.)
4. Immediately after jumping from the ground, use downb.
It does take practice so you will screw up several times.
Just practice with jumping for a while then insert downb's when you get the rhythm.
First of all you can do the FoG by doing the wizardfoot rollout onto the stage and then mashing jump and b while holding down.
But that's not very practical so I'd skip that one all together.
For the more practical version that you can use anywhere there is solid ground what you do is this:
1. Double-jump. Don't use your second jump too close to the ground or you won't get the height required to perform actions after the upcoming airdodge.
2. Immediately after using your second jump, airdodge so that you rise as you dodge.
3. Right before you hit the ground, jump.
(If you jump with the little second-jump rings before you hit the ground you have the timing right, so it's good to practice this with just jumping.)
4. Immediately after jumping from the ground, use downb.
It does take practice so you will screw up several times.
Just practice with jumping for a while then insert downb's when you get the rhythm.
M-WUZ-H3R3
Smash Lord
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Hey, I have been brawling Gleam for a while, and I was wondering who the best gannon is (skill wise) that is willing to brawl me over the ****ty network we call nintendo wi-fi.
I use jigglypuff, and I can brawl tomorow around 4:00 eastern time. I live in NJ, and have good connection.
I use jigglypuff, and I can brawl tomorow around 4:00 eastern time. I live in NJ, and have good connection.
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
Is ****** gleam that boring that you want to fight the best?
Gleam
Smash Ace
Trust me its far from ****, lol.
M-WUZ-H3R3
Smash Lord
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Lol, no. Gleam is a difficult opponent, and he showed me what a smart gannon plays like. However the matchup is in jigglypuff's favor (I think it's like 60:40), and I want to see what a VERY good gannon plays like.
o rly? We both had our share of **** xD.
SaltyKracka
Smash Lord
Look up DAD. Or Kalm. He ***** online, with godlike reactions (I don't know how he does it).
M-WUZ-H3R3
Smash Lord
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Godlike reactions? Are we still talking about brawl?
And Kalm accepted it, so we are brawling today. Ganon is too fun.
Gleam
Smash Ace
Kalms an absolute monster...your in for one helluva fight right now M-WUZ-H3R3.
Zerxion
Smash Apprentice
Gannon banned.
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
He won the first 2 matches, while I won the last 6. Wonderful Jigglypuff. Jiggs may actually be a neutral match-up for us, thus our best.
lavagolem123
Smash Journeyman
IIRC, there was a thread with a video in it showing Ganon grabbing MK from the ledge while he did a Flame Choke while on the stage, anybody know where it is or am I mistaken?
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
If I'm thinking of the one you're thinking of, then it's around 6:40 of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMTL74uIXlw
Also found in the chainchoking thread further down the main page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMTL74uIXlw
Also found in the chainchoking thread further down the main page.
TP
Smash Master
Ganon can do an aerial murder choke toward the side and hit lots of characters who are hanging on the ledge. 6 characters, including MK, will die from it if you are the correct distance away. There are like 10 more characters for which both of you will die. If you miss and you started too close, you will die, so do not try this until you know the correct distance. I do not remember the name of the thread.
Teronist09
Smash Journeyman
like 8 of them are possible I think, but it's completely recoverable. maybe if they're not expecting it it might kill, but you can technically recover.
TP
Smash Master
True, but who would ever see that coming?
Brave Hippo
Smash Ace
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Hey guys, Im thinking about picking up Ganon due to him being one of teh funnest characters in the game. (Now I wont go competetive with him, thats for my Oli XD) So, what are Ganons basic basics?
TP
Smash Master
I LOVE your username.
Use Uair a lot, learn to thunderstorm, get a basic knowledge of the murder choke followups, and read How to Murder Stuff.
Brave Hippo
Smash Ace
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Hahaha Thanks man
so Uair eh? I noticed thats his best move. Good priority, knockback, SPEED. K, gonna go check that guide now.
Ussi
Smash Legend
How good does Ganondorf do on Norfair? How does he control the stage?
TP
Smash Master
Uair, followed by Uair, followed by reverse Uair, followed by a Fair, followed by no less than 10 more Uairs. Usmash also does well and I find the shape of the stage to be helpful with setting up aerial Wizkicks.
But mainly use Uair.
Here's my question.
I keep seeing Ganon's dashdancing as a mindgame, or something like that. I can't figure out how to do one besides taking my right hand and palming the control stick back and forth.
So, my question is, how do you guys do it and is there a way I can learn/use it as a genuine tactic?
I keep seeing Ganon's dashdancing as a mindgame, or something like that. I can't figure out how to do one besides taking my right hand and palming the control stick back and forth.
So, my question is, how do you guys do it and is there a way I can learn/use it as a genuine tactic?
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
Where do you see it as a mindgame? Every time I see a ganon doing it, they get smacked while doing it or otherwise do something predictable like dash attack (often in the wrong direction lulz) or a smash. The smash is alright since dancing stutters it but I don't see how you can pull anything tricky out of that mess.
As for doing it, it just takes finger practice. Don't do the palm thing or it'll be harder to break away from that habit. You can't do junk with your whole hand on the analog.
Bottom line = don't bother trying unless you enjoy watching ganon move stupidly fast nowhere.
As for doing it, it just takes finger practice. Don't do the palm thing or it'll be harder to break away from that habit. You can't do junk with your whole hand on the analog.
Bottom line = don't bother trying unless you enjoy watching ganon move stupidly fast nowhere.
zaborg2400
Smash Cadet
hmmm, well i managed to get edge edge 1 werking, thnx 4 that, and now im practice spamming till i figure it out. thnx a bunch.
stRIP
Smash Ace
Dunno in which thread i have to post it. I will just take this one
I had some very nice teammatches 10 minutes ago
As i died the second time, i thought i rejump, and reverse warlock punch
what happened?
Luigi used his sideb from the right side, it was this fail explosion, he flown into my warlock punch
the other enemy Link, has done shorthop airdodge but the warlock punch connected
my teammate which was a Mk just randomly jumped into my warlock punch
ORGASM
Warlock Punched 3 people
Gif will be done soon.
I had some very nice teammatches 10 minutes ago
As i died the second time, i thought i rejump, and reverse warlock punch
what happened?
Luigi used his sideb from the right side, it was this fail explosion, he flown into my warlock punch
the other enemy Link, has done shorthop airdodge but the warlock punch connected
my teammate which was a Mk just randomly jumped into my warlock punch
ORGASM
Warlock Punched 3 people
Gif will be done soon.
SaltyKracka
Smash Lord
So you WP'd three people at the same time? Awesome.
stRIP
Smash Ace
SaltyKracka
Smash Lord
Your teammate LITERALLY jumped into the ****.
Epic.
Epic.
stRIP
Smash Ace
So i got a idea for the Ganon Boards CV intro
3 Ganondorfs, all 999% 4 warlock punches collide
im worried about the universe but it would be epic
:034:
Smash Hero
That gif made me spill my manly goo all over the desk.
("I came" wasn't long enough and I didn't want to do 10char again)
("I came" wasn't long enough and I didn't want to do 10char again)
Thats a sick gif, just yesterday I had a team match where I got a total of 4 Warlock punches, the first two were pretty sweet but the last one was sick. it was 2 zeldas vs 2 Ganons and it came to 2 Ganons vs 1 zelda and we were kinda getting tossed a little bit, everyone had one stock left and both me and my teammate ganon were at 100%+ and zelda was around 40%. we started getting a little nervous that we would somehow loose, then my teammate gets a grab while I was in the air and i drop from the sky and reverse WP both of them FTW. it looked pretty hawt.. so i just thought i would share
and it came to 2 Ganons vs 1 zelda and we were kinda getting tossed a little bit, everyone had one stock left and both me and my teammate ganon were at 100%+ and zelda was around 40%. we started getting a little nervous that we would somehow loose, then my teammate gets a grab while I was in the air and i drop from the sky and reverse WP both of them FTW. it looked pretty hawt.. so i just thought i would share
stRIP
Smash Ace
ololollloool
you just made me lol
If we will ever going on with the Ganon boards tierlist (hello salty, our social group) i want to have a title like "Best Warlockpuncher" for this gif.
srsly
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
I have a triple kill warlock punch hanging around too but it's not as good since it's ffa and doesn't kill a teammate or end the game. Though it does ultimately win me the game. Not sure if it's worth showing though, I'll take another look at it.
TP
Smash Master
I was fighting a Zelda with my Ganon. the Zelda was at 30% when she decided to transform. I was like "***** don't play with me" and Warlock Punched her as soon as she was done transforming. After she respawned, she turned back to Zelda. She got the point.
oOJaseOo
Smash Ace
Right i'm sorry if this has been asked already but im way to tired to read atm iv just started super gannon jumping i can do the roll canceled one no probs but not the other can i ask wat your guys controller set ups are to make the alternative method easyier?