Banee
Smash Cadet
I disagree here. Yes, if we can come to a consensus on what "balance" means, then we can come to a conclusion based on facts. However, ones definition of balance is ultimately an opinion.Bup-bup!
This subject-matter can be entirely fact based. A lot of people just make sweeping judgements and use their opinions and interpretations alone when arguing the subject matter.
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Case and point, I once argued with you quite a long time ago about the "balance" of games. It eventually came down to our inability to come to a consensus on what balance is. I claim balance is the number of viable characters in a game (some people have referred to it as competitive variety), you claimed (atleast at that time) that balance was determined by a ratio of total character in a game to total number of viable characters. My definition of balance doesnt care about how many total character exist in a game, but yours does. This is ultimately where the disagreement came from.
Now, you cannot factually prove that your definition of balance is correct. You can say that some people hold the same definition of balance as you do. You can say alot of people hold the same definition of balance as you do. You can say alot of people from different communities hold the same definition of balance as you do. It doesnt matter, because you still cannot prove your definition of balance is correct, you can just prove its the more popular definition. Popularity does not equate correctness.
The same exact problem applies here. Everyone here comes in with their own definition, their opinion if you will, of balance. You cannot prove that their definition is incorrect. Within the context of their definition, they may find either melee or brawl more balanced. The problem as I see it, and I in no way mean this as an attack on you, Yuna, just an observation, is that you attempt to tell people that they are wrong by your definition of balance, but fail to recognize that your definition does not match up with theirs.
Now, I'm not the most up-to-date on this community at all, but I have yet to see these boards come to a conclusion on what the definition of balance is. If and when that happens, then you can argue within the context of that definition since it would be accepted as the communities definition. If that has already happened, feel free to correct me and disregard this post. Also, please point me to the thread where this happened as I would be interested in reading it.