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LOL.Also, Japan has the right idea on Peach.
She's only 2 spots lower than on our list.
Terrible.
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LOL.Also, Japan has the right idea on Peach.
LOL.
She's only 2 spots lower than on our list.
Terrible.
MikeNeko isn't "getting" pretty good. He's on the same level as Mike and Ramin.Mikeneko is their best Martha main kitchen. He's getting pretty good.
I think there's one guy who uses wario, but I don't remember his name
Yukhoe is the Wario- however he's mostly known for his doubles play AFAIKIf I'm not mistaken, that Wario is Yukhoe.
You first. *Bows head and swings arms to the side.*Someone needs to tell the people who think Sonic is C tier to fall down a well.
I forgot to say "please," but in any case:Except I don't think Sonic is C tier?
This... is a bit difficult to make a case out of, even as a devil's advocate.S: Meta Knight
A: Diddy Kong, Snake, Falco
B: Marth, Wario, Ice Climbers, Olimar, Pikachu
C: Lucario, King Dedede, Zero Suit Samus, Mr. Game & Watch, Toon Link
D: Fox, Wolf, Peach
E: Donkey Kong, Kirby, R.O.B., Pit, Sonic
F: Ike, Sheik/Zelda, Luigi, Sheik, Ness, Yoshi, Pokémon Trainer
G: Lucas, Mario, Bowser, Samus, Captain Falcon
H: Link, Jigglypuff, Zelda, Ganondorf
This on the other hand seems more realistic.S+ Metaknight
S Ice Climbers
A+ Olimar Diddy Falco Snake Fox
A Pit Wario Marth Dedede Zero Suit Samus
B Toon Link Robot Lucario Zelda and Sheik Game and Watch
C Donkey Kong Peach Wolf Kirby Pikachu Ike
D Lucas Mario Sonic
E Luigi Bowser Yoshi Ness
F Ganondorf Pokemon Trainer
G Captain Falcon Link Samus
H Jigglypuff
Those two mus are our hardest match ups, especially in Japan. We have a harder time trying to take down those two plus mk. I'm trying to reevaluate the mus so that we can progress over here. =.Japan has pikas. It's probably cuz 2 of pikas more difficult mu are quite famous in japan(oli/ic)
Ya i feel you man. You should talk to some other pika mains and discuss it. Pit boards are always evaluating new strats, approaches, ideas and mu theories. It's helped quite a few people out. We even managed to get wario down to a slight disadvantage instead of a large disadvantage after exploring the mu quite a bit.Those two mus are our hardest match ups, especially in Japan. We have a harder time trying to take down those two plus mk. I'm trying to reevaluate the mus so that we can progress over here. =.
Are you saying Japan has a more realistic tier list?This... is a bit difficult to make a case out of, even as a devil's advocate.
This on the other hand seems more realistic.
... Except WTF is Pikachu doing down there? Totally different metagame man, or Japan must not have any Pikachus... or both.
I thought Ganon had better results in the US, and Jiggs and Bowser had the worst results there.I find Japan's results very interesting.... and as far as actually sucking, I think Jiggs does suck more than Ganon. We just have more Jiggs in the states that are placing better than Ganons....?
Anyway, thanks for posting this. I actually can speak Japanese since I lived there for a couple years, and may be going back over this summer, but is there anyway to get on smacom if you don't have a Japanese cell phone E-mail address?
You can disagree all you like, but foxes slay mks here. end of story.Are you saying Japan has a more realistic tier list?
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I really disagree with Fox that high even in Japan.
No,there isn't. You have to either have Docomo, Softbank, or AU email address. The worst part is that you have to confirm through phone's email to activate account.I find Japan's results very interesting.... and as far as actually sucking, I think Jiggs does suck more than Ganon. We just have more Jiggs in the states that are placing better than Ganons....?
Anyway, thanks for posting this. I actually can speak Japanese since I lived there for a couple years, and may be going back over this summer, but is there anyway to get on smacom if you don't have a Japanese cell phone E-mail address?
I tried, but Esam apparently told them that you should technically just lose, on purspose. Nobody seems to want to progress in there in those mus. They're winnable and I'm finding the tools to get there. I'm currently training for Sunrise Tournament, which is Japan's largest national and is hosting money. Trying to get this experience is tough, especially since not many are concentrated in my area. I'll be posting info in March about SRT, which is in august and extra info, such as hotels, housing (suggested by Suinoko), and etc. So please, do come. Japan wants a fight, not a few to come and make the minimal upset. We want UPSETS. We want ACTION. We don't want your ~ eer, wait a sec. Why I am still here. kudosYa i feel you man. You should talk to some other pika mains and discuss it. Pit boards are always evaluating new strats, approaches, ideas and mu theories. It's helped quite a few people out. We even managed to get wario down to a slight disadvantage instead of a large disadvantage after exploring the mu quite a bit.
Just curious but how is rain able to host a money tourney? I've been wandering since he annoucned it at apex. I thought it was illegal in japan to have money tourneys? Or is there a process you can go through to get an "ok"?You can disagree all you like, but foxes slay mks here. end of story.
No,there isn't. You have to either have Docomo, Softbank, or AU email address. The worst part is that you have to confirm through phone's email to activate account.
I tried, but Esam apparently told them that you should technically just lose, on purspose. Nobody seems to want to progress in there in those mus. They're winnable and I'm finding the tools to get there. I'm currently training for Sunrise Tournament, which is Japan's largest national and is hosting money. Trying to get this experience is tough, especially since not many are concentrated in my area. I'll be posting info in March about SRT, which is in august and extra info, such as hotels, housing (suggested by Suinoko), and etc. So please, do come. Japan wants a fight, not a few to come and make the minimal upset. We want UPSETS. We want ACTION. We don't want your ~ eer, wait a sec. Why I am still here. kudos
Dang....that stinks.No,there isn't. You have to either have Docomo, Softbank, or AU email address. The worst part is that you have to confirm through phone's email to activate account.
That makes sense, because it says above the Japanese tier list that matches that are planked or where they just run away are not counted in the tier list. So in their tier list Ganon is better than Jiggs.Jiggs can run away and time people out, that alone makes it better than Ganon.
It's illegal to gamble, such as money matching( unless you do it under the table ;. ). As for the tourney, I don't know about the coordination of the money thing. I'd believe that it's legal, i guess, regardless of the rule in japan.Just curious but how is rain able to host a money tourney? I've been wandering since he annoucned it at apex. I thought it was illegal in japan to have money tourneys? Or is there a process you can go through to get an "ok"?
Also, ya i feel you there. It sucks when people just give up. Sometimes it's logical. However in that specific scenario i could easily see,with effort, the matchup getting better. Esams logic is why? I have IC. At least that's how i see it. He mostly loses game 1 with pika and then proceeds to go IC. I understand his initiative to so. He wants to go as far as possible. But it'd be cool to see a pika rolemodel be more dedicated than that.
Lol i'd jump on SRT right away if i wasn't in extreme debt this semeseter -.- plus i've always wanted to go to japan...it would've of been the perfect opportunity
I really hope it gets the attendance and hype that it deserves though. Is there any talk of fundraising for some players like apex did? Apex got so many ppl out here through fundraising. So it'd be a nice idea if you have specific people you really want to come for hype/representation.
Yeah even if this statement is true (I agree with it but I also agree that Fox shouldn't be that high)Are you saying Japan has a more realistic tier list?
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I really disagree with Fox that high even in Japan.
You misunderstand me, sir.Are you saying Japan has a more realistic tier list?
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I really disagree with Fox that high even in Japan.