Marth Social Thread

[Muhti]

Talk about Marth from Project M here!

 

[JTsm]

No hype for Marth :<

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Purple Marth is pretty cool.


That's all I have to say about PM Marth.

 

[GHNeko]

I actually do enjoy the NES Marth more hahah.


That being said, Wedding marth is best.

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

No one's hyped for the top tiers because we got weary of them this past decade

 

[cannedbread]

hey, everybody loves marth

 

[GHNeko]

No one gets tired of marth. Marths get tired of spacies. Which is why marth mains are an endangered species.

 

[roymaster803]

I enjoy Marth more now. with the engine fixes in 2.5 I feel he plays smoother. I like him a lot more now. i didn't even use him in 2.1, but now I'm thinking of making him my secondary or 3rd main.

 

[GHNeko]

I actually feel like Marth is accurate enough to the point where improving with him in P:M will improve your Melee marth.

 

[Dante']

2.5 Marth feels really nice. I'm very curious to see how he fairs in a metagame not populated with fast-fallers, and I personally think he will still preform very well against this improved roster.

 

[GHNeko]

Well he's extremely good at a fundamental level. I dont think he's going to stuffer too much. Especially considering he got buffs.

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

Well he's extremely good at a fundamental level. I dont think he's going to stuffer too much. Especially considering he got buffs.

Buffs? I thought it was just landing lag on dair?

 

[Dante']

Well that is a pleasant surprise. I knew Marth's up-smash got buffed with a bigger hitbox, which I appreciate due to it being one of his few trusting animations. I didn't think he got much else, but now I'm looking forward to the change log.

 

[standardtoaster]

As far as I know it was just slightly lower landing lag on dair and usmash actually covers the sword properly.

 

[GHNeko]

I'm pretty sure DB is better, but I forgot how.

I have to get magus to tell me again.

Also mechanic buffs. While they're universal, a few mechanics are part of the fundementals of P:M which in term is added to Marth's arsenal. At least that's how i feel.

 

[MaxThunder]

b-reversing ans stuff is sooo fun with marth=)...

 

[GHNeko]

Someone. Quick. Make a video thread!

But for now, I'll post my vids here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2tUQquQ_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmhPfk32zPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyuEMz_GBZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTeaaIWhHCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTpTzh-4no

yeeeee.

you get to see my marf once.

thoughts.

 

[roymaster803]

Made a video thread. Have fun. Also how many people use Marth now? I know I'll use him. He feels so much better in 2.5 now. I keep saying it because it's true.

 

[GHNeko]

He's my Melee main so I use him, but im not sure if he's a secondary or a main for me in P:M.

Also, if I make the video thread. I'll have to maintain it haha.

 

[MaxThunder]

i uses him... spammin' da sword is fun=)...

 

[Dante']

Marth has been my main ever since 2005. I play him for two reasons. 1: Fire Emblem is one of the best game series of all time and 2: He is simple yet complex. He has, no projectiles, unique physics, gimmicks, or crazy set-ups. Its just him and his sword, with solid fundamentals backing him up. Honestly I wish he was Lyn instead, but oh well.

 

[GHNeko]

His tipper system is a gimmick. lol.

That and he has a bunch of silly set ups from SH Dairs, to grabbing out of DB, and probably more.

 

[Master WGS]

I use Marth. I'm probably still technically better with him, but since everyone's familiar with the MU I typically use Lucas in tournament now.

Even though I don't think it's truly possible, I might say I dual main the two of them.

 

[TheDevicer]

I dunno. I love characters that I find have an elegant way of positioning and moving around. Just Marth's fundamental neutral game is very satisfying to me. I feel like he's less viable at higher levels of play, but his basic stuff hasn't changed at all. He still has his share of great matchups but has gained a few bad ones as well. He's a bit of a niche character.

 

[GHNeko]

I really wouldnt call him a niche character. More like a character that represents the essence of competitive smash.

 

[Dante']

I really wouldnt call him a niche character. More like a character that represents the essence of competitive smash.

I feel the same way. He kinda fits into Smash bros like Ryu fits into street fighter.

 

[Deleted member]

Marth (along with tl) is my main in this, but I feel as if marth will never win tournaments. Hes a really good character, but I feel like he just won't be recognized or played enough to place high. Also, someone help me vs Rob. I play a really good rob player almost every monthly and I haven't won a set. 2-0 or 2-1 >_>

 

[GHNeko]

So does anyone know about Marth's DACUS?

And how it's 1f. lol.

 

[Deleted member]

Marth has a dacus?
But then it was only 1 frame

 

[Master WGS]

It's also pretty worthless. Maybe if he actually slid somewhere, or if usmash was at least an okay move it'd be okay.

Too precise to be worth the effort probably anywhere.

 

[Juushichi]

Reporting in... kinda.

I play a little 2.5 Marth (and mained him for most of my Melee playing "career") and he does indeed feel smooth. Marth dittos somehow feel even lamer than before, but verses some characters it is still hilarious.

 

[GHNeko]

It's also pretty worthless. Maybe if he actually slid somewhere, or if usmash was at least an okay move it'd be okay.

Too precise to be worth the effort probably anywhere.

Magus says it can go as far as lucas' actually.

And combined with it's new hitboxes. You can platform techchase from the other side of FD. (ie Left BF Plat to Right BF Plat)

 

[Sixth-Sense]

Marth feels really good in 2.5, i think i could even drop melee marth since these two are almost identical, although PM marth has more mechanics to work with.

quick question, does anybody know where to find a Sephiroth model, but with the normal marth sword and not the humungus one? i saw it in a video once so if so one could help me out

 

[TheDevicer]

I really wouldnt call him a niche character. More like a character that represents the essence of competitive smash.

I must ask, do you feel this way because of how Marth was developed and played during the early years of Melee or because of his matchup spread in PM. I'd describe him in the exact same way for Melee, but I feel he has a rather interesting array of matchups. It's almost as if he either counters or gets countered in most matchups, albeit in a relatively minor way.

As for Marth's Dacus, I used to string together the move from and f-throw or a techroll on a platform when I felt like being ridiculously flashy. I made this video when I first heard about it in 2.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61RQ7zqhhZs

On a separate note, how do you guys feel about Marth and the new Norfair? I feel he plays really well there, especially once you start taking advantage of his long wavelands. It's like the stage feeds into your mobility. Another plus is that the top platform is ever so slightly below the height of your grounded up-B. This makes using the move OOS rather safe, especially since the platform runs the entire length of the stage itself.

And how are Marth dittos lame? He combos and gimps himself so well that these matches tend to be really fast paced, being only offset by playing footsies. And if you don't find the neutral game interesting, why do you even play smash, let alone Marth?

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

Marth main here.

DACUS is really ****ing good and I'd use it but I can't seem to pull it off with Z and not A.

 

[MonkUnit]

For Marth's DACUS, only Attack works. That is why you can't DACUS with Marth using Z.

 

[Master WGS]

Wait, really? Then that's why I haven't been able to do it at all yet!

Thanks for the info.

 

[SinisterB]

Yeah, no wonder.

Oh hey I second Marth in Melee. Seems alright in PM although I think I prefer his melee incarnation, for dittos at least. Maybe it's just that melee feel. Anyways not much to say just wanted to post. Marth is cool. Wavebounce DB is cool. You guys are alright.

Bye.

 

[Shaya]

I think they just need to give Marth actual kills options after 70% lest all these new and improved characters with better "situations" in every situation Marth was actually viable for in Melee just make him... good but not exactly feeling worthwhile in a 'playing to win' environment.

I feel eternal rage that Marth still can't kill anybody with non-tippered fsmash or dsmash until the 160s+. In the way that the balancing team have "leveled out" brawl changes for the better (e.g. Falco) I don't see why Marth's been left behind.

I feel Mario to be a stronger, more versatile and less gimicky version of what Marth is right now (the 'gimmick' being 'loldtilt', 'lol grab range' and 'a tipper fsmash killing people with bad DI lower than fox's usmash but not actually killing people at all if they DI'). I love the power of a sword (which will always be great), I love his wave dash plus new shenanigans with pivot grabs and I notice the dair and dancing blade differences too, but he's feeling a little dated.

 

[GHNeko]

Well with the reduced landing lag on Dair's L-cancel, he has more kill options from SH Rising Dair. <_<

That and Utilt can kill before 160%. >_>

Marth's skill ceiling has definately been raised however. Mostly because of new fundementals. How high it's been raised and how steep the incline, however, is something none of us are able to properly identify at the time being.

Also, HIII SHAYA. <3