Lucas is the real better player if you want to look at it statistically. He is a higher tier and is far superior to ness if the person plays perfect. I don't know why you care about final smashes seeing how there just a cheep item but there both the same so it doesn't matter anyway. Lucas' pk freeze is better than Ness' pk pulse and his pk fire is better and he has the super jump and his throws are really powerful and his fsmash is faster and his up smash is a really good finisher and his back air spikes people and his fair is a killer and fast at the same time. So I overule all your votes and say Lucas is better in every way. Lucas-100000 Ness-0. LMAO. jk
1. fail, ness has no attack called "pk pulse", where the hell did that come from?
2. ness and lucas are the same tier, considering there are only 2 japanese tiers, mid and high because of all the infinite air/ground dodging, in other words, tires dun exits
3. ness' pk fire is so much more superior to lucas' that its not even funny, it can bring heavier characters from 0 to 80% in seconds, and double sided pk fire with 2 ness' is in escapable in team battles
4. ness has FAR stronger throws, in fact his back throw is 1.5x better than any of lucas' throws
5. no fail, their Fsmashes are the same speed, except lucas' has more lag after it hits, so its far more punishable, and 9% weaker might i add
6. no one finishes with an upsmash, and anyone caught in it is an idiot
7. so? ness' down air spikes
8. half of ness' attacks are kill moves, lucas only has his down/up smash, which are both punishable and slow as garbage
9. ness' pk thunder 2 kills at 60%
10. ness is actually better than lucas if they fight each other 1on1
11. ness' pkthunder is more gimpable, this is the only reason why he is considered worse, because the opponent always jumps out to get in the way
12. they both have an equal amount of good match ups
13. lucas is a *****, claus is who you should play
vote for ness and 1 negitive vote for lucas because this guy is a nub, ty mr thread starter