No Disassemble!: Overswarm's instruction manual for ROB

[TechnoMonster]

Yeah the ledge is a bad place to be vs Mario. FLUDD and I believe the cape both work on you when you're invincible, not to mention fireball has the perfect trajectory to dislodge ledgecampers if you mistime your jump. Plus there's no possible way you can retaliate against a good Mario while you're on the ledge. Stingers you should play boss, it will change your mind about the whole matchup. I have little doubt he's the best Mario (and Luigi) in the country.

I know. Meatriding!

TM, the big thing ROB has vs Falco is that Falco is so easy to gimp. Bair beats out anything Falco can do to recover, as long as you can predict it, and it's not that hard. Also Falco's fsmash is generally easy to see coming and easy to punish.

Oh and *some* ROBs would say just fire a laser and then ledgecamp for 7 minutes, but there are better ways to do it -_-

ROB can't effectively GIMP Falco is the thing until Falco is at high%, where ROB can "gimp" any character by hitting them with a b-air. You can however, keep poking him off with jabs and the like indefinitely, which I was working on today. Falco's large second jump, fast aerials, and high range side-B give Falco a lot of options.

And if that lasers doesn't hit?

 

[subzerosmokerain]

cool guide, it helps. i didnt know side B reflected stuff

 

[Sudai]

ROB can't effectively GIMP Falco is the thing until Falco is at high%, where ROB can "gimp" any character by hitting them with a b-air. You can however, keep poking him off with jabs and the like indefinitely, which I was working on today. Falco's large second jump, fast aerials, and high range side-B give Falco a lot of options.

And if that lasers doesn't hit?

You really haven't played falco much, have you? Easy gimpings from a 0% BThrow.

 

[toasty]

Sudai...the Falco's you play against must be predictable as hell I wanna play them!!!!

 

[ipitydatfu]

lol. the falcos on AiB are fun to gimp, especially if you can force them to upB straight up to the edge

 

[JJR.O.B.]

You really haven't played falco much, have you? Easy gimpings from a 0% BThrow.

True this.

 

[Sudai]

It's not that they're predictable, it's that no matter what they do, you have time to react. BAir eats everything.

 

[DRaGZ]

It's true. I can't tell you how many times I've killed a Falco when he was side+Bing right into the lingering hitbox of my b-air.

 

[Overswarm]

Throw Falco off edge. turn around and jump, DI off the stage. Bair if he over b's to hit him. If he falls below the stage, spike him with dair, hit him with bair, or chain him off the side with fair.

There really isn't much they can do unless they jump and over-b onto the stage from way up high. If they do that... grab 'em and do it again.

 

[Y.b.M.]

You really put alot of Information on here....I really appreciate that and I would generously like to say Thank You....OS

 

[Cubone]

Wow, its been amazingly dead. =x
Must be busy, eh OS?

Anyhow, I was wondering if a TL matchup would be on its way anytime soon. I think I have quite a bit of experience against them now, but its still not rock solid, just wondering how you go about this match.

 

[.CMW.]

I've been playing R.O.B lately and I find this thread infinitely helpful. I do have a few things I would like to ask about though. With the ATs I began at the top and worked my way down and after I perfected the "Glide Toss" technique I noticed when I switched my controls to C Stick = Specials I could no longer perform this technique. Having noticed this I feel discouraged because I can't perform the two B Sticking techniques and the "Glide Toss" simultaneously. Any ideas on how to help? Controller set-ups maybe?

On another note I can't seem to perfect the two B Sticking techniques because I'm not quite sure I understand what motion is to be done with the C Stick. Maybe a little help here too?

Thanks in advance.

.CMW.

 

[pklucas]

i wouldn't mind a marth matchup. I couldn't find one anywhere, even though he shouldn
't be the hardest matchup

I get killed whenever i touch the stage... maybe i should just cp frigate orpheon and sit on the moving platform, camp, then shield grab.

Or would jungle japes be a better pick and just run whenever he approaches

 

[Cubone]

i wouldn't mind a marth matchup. I couldn't find one anywhere, even though he shouldn
't be the hardest matchup

I get killed whenever i touch the stage... maybe i should just cp frigate orpheon and sit on the moving platform, camp, then shield grab.

Or would jungle japes be a better pick and just run whenever he approaches

There was a Marth discussion floating around the board, just look for it

 

[Sudai]

"WEEKLY MATCHUP DISCUSSION" thread. It's not stickied. There;s a marth discussion in there.

 

[pklucas]

thanks a bunch. Overswarms vidoes were probably more helpful.

His spacing is perfect

 

[Darth JoBak]

Overswarm:
Question: How do I drop the Gyro straight down so that it falls slowly beneath me? I am about to go try and figure this out on my own but in case I can't, HOW?

ie How do I do this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDIFMRqynfc
@ 1:45

and could you throw that into your guide for new ROBbers?

 

[toasty]

this works with any item in the game, in the air, simply press Z. you'll just let go of the item and it will fall straight down

 

[frdagaa]

Gotta do it without pressing a direction, too, if I'm not mistaken. Otherwise it'll just throw.

 

[maXXXpower]

Best guide I've ever laid eyes on.

 

[Darth JoBak]

I was pressing a direction, that was my problem, thanks toasty

 

[Nintendevil]

I've been playing R.O.B lately and I find this thread infinitely helpful. I do have a few things I would like to ask about though. With the ATs I began at the top and worked my way down and after I perfected the "Glide Toss" technique I noticed when I switched my controls to C Stick = Specials I could no longer perform this technique. Having noticed this I feel discouraged because I can't perform the two B Sticking techniques and the "Glide Toss" simultaneously. Any ideas on how to help? Controller set-ups maybe?

On another note I can't seem to perfect the two B Sticking techniques because I'm not quite sure I understand what motion is to be done with the C Stick. Maybe a little help here too?

Thanks in advance.

.CMW.

Wrong thread but take C stick off, and just use B turnarounds, which are good enough for ROB.

 

[Overswarm]

Best guide I've ever laid eyes on.

Thanks. I'll finish it once MK is banned, I have a few ideas to really add to this... but am not going to waste my time.

 

[fiveironbrad]

Thanks OS for your infinate ROB wisdom... it's given me a definate edge on my buddies! Any chance you could expand upon the 'Mindgames, tricks, and commonly used tactics' section?

 

[DRaGZ]

He won't until MK is banned.

In fact, he will probably quit Brawl unless MK is banned.

 

[Nintendevil]

In the last 7 months his post count went up what? 1,500? I wonder what about...

 

[Sudai]

It went up a lot due to his crusade against Metaknight.

If Sudai's not mistaken, at one point he said if MK's not banned before January, he's quitting Brawl. Don't quote Sudai on that though cause Sudai can't remember where he said it, so that means he may not have said it, and even if he has said it, he might not stick to it due to personal reasons or w/e. Basically...Sudai's talking out the horse's ***.

 

[Overswarm]

^This

except for the "not quitting due to personal reasons". If he's not gone, I am. You lose one or the other!

So if you love me, get TOs to ban MK =B

 

[ipitydatfu]

TO = terrel owens?

we love you dont go!

 

[maXXXpower]

It went up a lot due to his crusade against Metaknight.

If Sudai's not mistaken, at one point he said if MK's not banned before January, he's quitting Brawl. Don't quote Sudai on that though cause Sudai can't remember where he said it, so that means he may not have said it, and even if he has said it, he might not stick to it due to personal reasons or w/e. Basically...Sudai's talking out the horse's ***.

Have you ever tried talking into the horse's ***? Or whispering into his mouth? Good times.

^This

except for the "not quitting due to personal reasons". If he's not gone, I am. You lose one or the other!

So if you love me, get TOs to ban MK =B

I am all for banning metaknight. But how can a simple Mexican boy like me help in such an endeavor?

 

[Overswarm]

Get AZ to hold tournaments with MK banned, get large turnouts, and make sure people know they are allowed to want MK to be banned.

Cali is holding one at Mike Haze's house :D

 

[DRaGZ]

Hooray for Haze.

 

[Fl00d]

this guide really helped me a lot! im beating the crap out of other players!

 

[maXXXpower]

this guide really helped me a lot! im beating the crap out of other players!

Yay for more AZ ROB players.

 

[Mrwiiboy]

Noob

You forgot jab and Nair in your moveset. Also, there's some very helpful info here. I hope all the newbies read this.

idiot noobs don't know who rob is

 

[Sudai]

He said "newbies", not "n00bs". There's a big difference between the two terms. -BIG- difference.

 

[toasty]

and not in a nice way...[@Mrwiiboy]

lmao .

 

[TEECO]

This was interesting, and well put together. Excellent for noobs and good players.
A length equal to the thickness of a bible lol
Nice job on this.

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

TO = terrel owens?

we love you dont go!

TO=Tournament organizers. If you know that by now, I apologize. I just saw someone had posted in this thread, so I checked it out and I saw your post, so I figured I'd respond.

 

[Ayaz18]

about soul crushing....................................

it says that you shouldn't goof off, iunno if it's just me but when I soul crush I do it with style, usually picking Snake, playing horribly then using Falcon and Sonic to bring back the match. My opponents usually look like they have been touched by an adult male by the end of the match. But that's just my style