North American ONLINE Player Tier List

[malva00]

should call it the "Good player list"

then go

Excellent

Good

Average

no order

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

by the way, why are people including Smoke on here for an..Online..tier ist.

he hasnt' played online in over half a year.

 

[SheerMadness]

I put Boom and Jaime in S Tier for now. Needs more discussion and we can change it.

Does everyone think Boom should have his own tier?

 

[NovaSmash]

i think boom and jaime are pretty even

 

[malva00]

shouldn't the people who determine that be boom and jaime?

unless you guys sit in their games and watch them play each other all the time? if they even play


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"I think it would be a cool thing for all the online players to reference and use to get better"

you don't need to put people in order if your goal is for people to see who is in what skill level

 

[Gammelnorsk]

requesting hammerheart tier where only hammerheart is

 

[SheerMadness]

Ideally Boom and Jaime would help us determine that but they have yet to post in here so maybe they don't want to get involved.

You're right we don't need to put people in order. If people just want non ordered tiers I'm fine with that. I just thought it would be more interesting to define the tiers as much as possible by grouping players within the tier.

Why don't you show us your list malva?

 

[Gammelnorsk]

HAMMERHEART TiER!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Miridia]

Why don't you show us your list malva?

I would enjoy reading that immensly.

 

[malva00]

wtf I don't even play many people how the **** would I do that

plus isn't this supposed to be win/loss ratio? everyone would have a bad win/loss ratio against me. it would be different if i could say "player A beats my kirby more than player B"

I can't determine how often someone wins/loses against other people. I don't go around asking "hey frog did you lose to th3kuzinator today? what was the win/loss ratio?

 

[NixxxoN]

^
lmao

malva list would be something like

*Players who are harder to beat tier*

Boom
Jaime
etc

*Players who I destroy tier"

the rest

 

[Miridia]

. I don't go around asking "hey frog did you lose to th3kuzinator today? what was the win/loss ratio?

xD I don't see you doing that malva. Ever. I'd be suprised and I'd probably laugh if you did.

No worries though. Continue on. :D

 

[malva00]

we should make a poll asking if we want ordered or non-ordered tier list

i'm going to assume the majority will want non-ordered, so let's do THAT. assuming makes everything so much easier

 

[DemonicInfluence]

we should make a poll asking if we want ordered or non-ordered tier list

i'm going to assume the majority will want non-ordered, so let's do THAT. assuming makes everything so much easier

agreed.

Also, my list is just edited from Surri and Koro, thought it is vaguely ordered within tiers, though the B tier is just pretty random, since I feel the people there are very close in skill lvl:


SSS Tier:

Malva00
SuperBoomFan

SS tier:
JaimeHR
Frog
Sensei
Nintendude1189

S Tier:
ECartman
PD
A$
SheerMadness
Peek


A Tier:
rawrimamonster
TheStarKing
MarioReincarnate
Hammerheart

B Tier:
Korobeniki
Firo
Matts!
The3kuzinator
Surri-Sama
B link
WOTG
Zodiac
Saske
Ybombb
Denken
Legendary
Battlecow

I removed HolyQuebec, Fireblaster, MattNF, Zenyore, Jin, Kabal cuz haven't seen them in forever.

I also did not include myself.

 

[WOTG]

I prefer non-ordered. Making ordered with this many players is too difficult. Especially when everyone knows the majority of those good players within their ranges are fairly even, with some people somewhat better than others.

HAMMERHEART is a pretty smart poster next to malva00.

I'm still laughing at s2j's posts, too funny.

That reminds me I forgot to put the hammerheart in my list, sorry, and sorry to others. I also would make adjustments like moving koro and imnotpro up (and others), I was judging half of it from past experiences and they've apparently got better... not saying they were never really good to begin with.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

i agree with u wotg but i am very upset at the lack of hammerheart tier

do i need to turn my tier into a set and define it with axioms? wtf give me HAMMERHEART TIER!!

 

[DemonicInfluence]

Everyone forgets Rawrimamonster

He's pretty good, but mostly just plays p2p =/

 

[rawrimamonster]

Some lists like Nova's make me lol so hard...and lol @ me not even being considered, despite me playing on even levels with a lotta the better players. /egowarimpendingfromtrolling

EDIT: lol demonic, I am NOT better than surri or koro its more or less even, and denken is WAAAAY too low on that list, anyone who has ever done serious 1v1's with the kid will know hes smart. Also fire still plays but only occasionally from what I saw.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

oK AFTER TALKING TO SASKE ABOUT THIS MATTER INDEPTH I DEMAND WE BOTH BE BUMPED UP DUE TO OUR LEET SKILLS IN THE AREAS OF READING AND MINDGAMES

I AM DEMANDING A HAMMERHEART TIER

AND HE IS DEMANDING A FISTICUFFS TIER WHERE HE IS KING AND HAMMERHEART WOULD BE 2ND OK

 

[Saske]

oK AFTER TALKING TO SASKE ABOUT THIS MATTER INDEPTH I DEMAND WE BOTH BE BUMPED UP DUE TO OUR LEET SKILLS IN THE AREAS OF READING AND MINDGAMES

I AM DEMANDING A HAMMERHEART TIER

AND HE IS DEMANDING A FISTICUFFS TIER WHERE HE IS KING AND HAMMERHEART WOULD BE 2ND OK

I second this!

 

[malva00]

Ok now that we've agreed on non-ordered, I say no one should be in their own tier list, and that the letters be

S

A

B

C

D (if needed)

having the lowest people in D will make them go "*** I have a D atttached to my name" so then they will try to move up XD or maybe they will go "man I hate being a D" and quit playing online? D:

 

[th3kuzinator]

I also vote for a non ordered list

agreed.

Also, my list is just edited from Surri and Koro, thought it is vaguely ordered within tiers, though the B tier is just pretty random, since I feel the people there are very close in skill lvl:


SSS Tier:

Malva00
SuperBoomFan

SS tier:
JaimeHR
Frog
Sensei
Nintendude1189

S Tier:
ECartman
PD
A$
SheerMadness
Peek


A Tier:
rawrimamonster
TheStarKing
MarioReincarnate
Hammerheart

B Tier:
Korobeniki
Firo
Matts!
The3kuzinator
Surri-Sama
B link
WOTG
Zodiac
Saske
Ybombb
Denken
Legendary
Battlecow

I removed HolyQuebec, Fireblaster, MattNF, Zenyore, Jin, Kabal cuz haven't seen them in forever.

I also did not include myself.

I like this as well.

I would move denken up to a higher tier, I would remove b link because he is fairly inactive, and would remove the second e from my name because thats simply not how its spelled

 

[T1g3rbombz]

I mean, Malva is in his own class, but so is Boom in the same way. I can't think of someone who stays that even online vs. Boomfan.

But in terms of a single character, BoomFan's falcon hasn't lost to anyone recently I can think of in singles except for Malva00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM8c5qNMEyI

Can i ask for a HYPOTHETICAL placement for me. l33t thx

 

[DemonicInfluence]

Some lists like Nova's make me lol so hard...and lol @ me not even being considered, despite me playing on even levels with a lotta the better players. /egowarimpendingfromtrolling

EDIT: lol demonic, I am NOT better than surri or koro its more or less even, and denken is WAAAAY too low on that list, anyone who has ever done serious 1v1's with the kid will know hes smart. Also fire still plays but only occasionally from what I saw.

Lol, my ranking is from like my experience playing you vs like them. I do decently against surri and koro, but you ***** me the last time we played. Maybe that was just a fluke or something

 

[SheerMadness]

malva obviously none of us know how other people do vs everyone so our lists are just based on our own experiences. And the goal is to make an accurate overall list with the help of everyone's own personal lists. Sharing your list would help too.

Even if you don't wanna make a whole list, just sharing the names of the people who do the best vs you would help. It would help if everyone did that. I'll start it off:

Boom - Haven't played him in a while but his Falcon beats me worse than anyone aside from malva.

Frogles - He doesn't **** me with any one character but he has more characters that go even with me than pretty much anyone else. His Ness probably has like a 60/40 advantage on my Yoshi.

Sensei - His Link gives me fits. Probably like 65-35 vs my Yoshi in his favor. Sometimes I **** his Fox and sometimes his Fox ***** me so that's pretty even.

Jaime - This is hard. He really likes to go Fox and Samus vs me which I seem to have an advantage vs him in. He rarely plays Mario vs me which probably gives me the most trouble and his Falcon probably has a slight advantage on me too.

A$ - He's 3-0 vs me in online tourneys so I'd have to give him the advantage. My Yoshi vs his pika and kirby always have close games but he seems to pull off the set.

 

[Frogles]

Frogles is just a delay god

listen here PEONS the delay god declares that if there isn't a hammerheart tier added to the list, he will crush u

 

[Gammelnorsk]

yessssssssssssssssssss u guys better listen to the delay god unless u want ur buttholes smited

 

[Surri-Sama]

wtf I don't even play many people how the **** would I do that

plus isn't this supposed to be win/loss ratio? everyone would have a bad win/loss ratio against me. it would be different if i could say "player A beats my kirby more than player B"

I can't determine how often someone wins/loses against other people. I don't go around asking "hey frog did you lose to th3kuzinator today? what was the win/loss ratio?

This is true, which is why the list is open for interpretation. It's been stated that this is about "how you feel" someone matches up. This is by no means an "end all of all" list of rankings

more of a general score, an easy reference...because for the most part a list could be created that isnt "completely" crazy

 

[rawrimamonster]

Lol, my ranking is from like my experience playing you vs like them. I do decently against surri and koro, but you ***** me the last time we played. Maybe that was just a fluke or something

Lol all the elitists should avert their eyes because im about to say somethings that they consider a cuss words.

Playstyles, mine just counters yours. Plus I've played every air camp puff there is, styles old dood.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I find it odd though, honestly i used to be much better vs a jiggly then i am now

play style alteration must have done something to me

And Rawr, thats one HUGE reason bias hinders these kinda things...but we can still try

some of us have been here many a year now to see many a match...so personal matters aside we should have some kinda idea

 

[Darth Rancorous]

I have been thinking about making a CONSOLE tier list for a while now since I'm prolly one of the few people that have played alot of the SWF players irl, but i got ninja'd by sheer. Oh well, i might still make it.

Also, this tier list would be better if used in conjunction with my "Who's your main in Smash 64?" thread to help players improve their skillz.

s2j's troll-fu will never be as strong as tigerbombz's.

Tigerbombz for SSS tier trolling

I agree, but s2j would atleast be in the SS tier haha. ****s too funny

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM8c5qNMEyI

Can i ask for a HYPOTHETICAL placement for me. l33t thx

offline match, doesn't count.

I would be at the bottom of Z tier offline as I can't use the n64 controller at all

 

[th3kuzinator]

offline match, doesn't count.

I would be at the bottom of Z tier offline as I can't use the n64 controller at all

Nope.

I would be lower as I cant seem to be able to use ANY sort of controller.

Sigh

 

[Nintendude]

Denken is mad underrated. He should be at least in the A tier on these lists.

 

[Miridia]

Nope.

I would be lower as I cant seem to be able to use ANY sort of controller.

Sigh

I feel odd. I use an Xbox 360 wired controller to play SSB64. Does this make me a bad player?

 

[Dash_Fox]

Oh maybe I should play again and get right below Jaime.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

or maybe u should buy two worlds and play that iwth me on steam!!

 

[Surri-Sama]

Oh maybe I should play again and get right below Jaime.

Do it! If this thread actually encourages anyone to want to play (ego or not) it definitely panned out

Join the ladder too then haha, get #2!

 

[th3kuzinator]

I feel odd. I use an Xbox 360 wired controller to play SSB64. Does this make me a bad player?

no.

most pros use the n64 controller.

I hear the wired xbox360 is decent.

I use keyboard

 

[MattNF]

Denken isn't underrated

Unless he was just sandbagging, I was playing him the other day and he didn't do very good


also, I agree on a HAMMERHEART tier!