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6:58am
Lmao, baited HARD.
i can't deny it. i was baited, i bit the hook, didn't even nibble just straight up bit it hard, and i got realed in. there isn't anyway i can argue this. the subject came up, and i was like, "finally, the one character who i know inside outside and upside down in almost every aspect both MUs and technique and ATs application and everything is being talked about! my main. *feels satisfied but not sure why*"
also i think the fisherman who realed me in used dead worms, i feel kinda sick tonight.
but i agree that pit lucario is even.
and just so you don't gotta go lookin up frame data, lenus did some but here is all of it that matters in this MU kill wise (idk about lucario specifically, but this is the approximations that are generally true against most characters):
dsmash (will kill around 130-140 fresh)-5
fsmash (will kill around 120-140 fresh)-6
usmash (idk why i listed this, i just did because lenus did)-6
dair (viable killer at 165-170)-6
Dash Attack (viable killer at 150 and can be true combo-ed into out of pivot arrow)-7
bair (will kill at 90-120 based on whether it's near the edge or in the center of the stage)-9 (crit frames and hitbox are both extended if used out of WOI which is one of the main reasons besides just the usual punish game that make wingstalling and other WOI tricks so viable in this MU.)
and yes lenus pit's uair beats out lucario's dair if we space it to the side. if it's from directly above us then his dair wins.
ESCA NAMESEARCH THIS AND GET IN HERE. YOU KNOW THIS BETTER MU BETTER THAN ANY1 SINCE YOU PLAY TRELA SO OFTEN.
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hope that works