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KrazyGlue

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Pokemon FAQ: Read before asking questions!

Just thought I'd make this so people new to the poke center wouldn't ask common questions in the Q&A thread. These links are really useful for doing basic research. If the link is long, you can use control+F to search through it. Questions about pokemon's basic mechanics can be answered by Niiro's stickied guide. In order to make this post easier to go through, I've bolded some keywords and phrases.



Q: Is there another guide on the basics of pokemon?
A: http://pokedream.com/games/diamondpearl/competitivebattling.php

This guide is excellent for new players. It's very comprehensive and is enough to get you started.



Q: What types are good against others?
A: This is very easy to find, but here is a sample chart:
http://www.pokemondb.co.uk/type



Q: What is a good moveset for my pokemon?
A: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/



Q: Which tier is each pokemon in?
A: http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/



Q: Which pokemon are common in each tier?
A: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52941 (from march 2009)



Q: What does a certain item do?
A: http://www.smogon.com/dp/items/



Q: What does a certain ability do?
A: http://www.smogon.com/dp/abilities/



Q: What does a certain nature boost?
A: http://www.smogon.com/dp/natures/



Q: What does a certain move do?
A: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/



Q: Is my move super effective against a certain pokemon?
A: http://www.smogon.com/dp/types/



Q: I'm not sure I like some of the above links. Are there any alternatives?
A: Go to: http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
You'll find some good alternatives in the top left corner.



Q: I want to know every move that any pokemon can possibly learn!!! Where can I find this?
A: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/
You can also find out how long it takes to hatch the pokemon's egg there and each pokemon's abilities. You can also find the EVs that a pokemon gives there.



Q:What are the best places to EV train my pokemon?
A: http://pokedream.com/games/diamondpearl/evtraining.php



Q: What does a certain move do? And where can I find all the moves of a certain type?
A: http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/
Another good alternative: search on http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page



Q: What about pokemon information for pokemon ranger and mystery dungeon?
A: http://www.serebii.net/spindex-dp/



Q: How much damage will my attack do?
A: http://pokemon.marriland.com/damage.php



Q: What will my pokemon's stats be at a certain level? What are the stats of this wild pokemon?
A: http://pokemon.marriland.com/statcalc_dp.php



Q: I've built this awesome team! What are its weaknesses?
A: http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/team_builder/



Q: I want to know everything about pokemon platinum! But I don't want to buy the guide... Any suggestions?
A: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/game/946308.html
Look through the link. Search for pokemon diamond/pearl if you want that info.



Q: How does shoddy battle work? Where can I download it?
A: http://shoddybattle.com/



Q: What pokemon are the best in each stat?
A: Top 100 lists:
HP: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/hp.shtml
Attack: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/attack.shtml
Defense: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/defense.shtml
Special Attack: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/sp-attack.shtml
Special Defense: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/sp-defense.shtml
Speed: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/speed.shtml

The base stats of all pokemon (sorted by stat) as well as some basic info can be found here: http://pokedream.com/games/diamondpearl/statsrankings.php



Q: What are some good double (2v2) battle strategies?
A: http://www.psypokes.com/rsefrlg/doublebattle.php

Yes, I know it's not that good but it's the best I've been able to find and it's better than nothing. I'm currently looking for a more comprehensive guide.



Q: I didn't find the answer to my question here... What should I do?
A: Congratulations, your question is worthy of the Q&A thread.:)
Remember, it's a good idea to use the search function for the thread to see if your question has already been asked and answered.



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If anyone has a suggestion for an additional link, please post!:)
 

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The good moveset isn't always good.

A lot of pokemon have changed with the introduction of platinum and the smogon movesets (I think) were made before that.

Other then that it looks great.

-:bowser:Bowser King
 

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The good moveset isn't always good.

A lot of pokemon have changed with the introduction of platinum and the smogon movesets (I think) were made before that.

Other then that it looks great.

-:bowser:Bowser King
Smogon actually updates its sets for the Platinum environment. Just look at the Scizor page and how it has Bullet Punch listed in its sets. And the standard Porygon-Z set now being the Scarf set instead of the Nasty Plot set.
 

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No, he was room banned because he was spamming up The Custom Pokemon Shop. But yes, it will help the rest of the room as well.

Thanks for this thread, KrazyGlue. It's simple enough and short enough that noobs will be able to read it fairly easily, but in-depth enough to cover some of the questions which need not clog up the rest of the PC.
 

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My god...THANK YOU!!!

And I'm actually slightly saddened by woody being gone now...I wanted to all out flame him before he left. :( Not because I'd actually be that angry, but because I thoroughly enjoy flaming and don't get to do it very often. :)

Anyway, very nice and easy to follow list. I actually have even been looking for links to a few of these things, so this is quite useful. But...I do have a link for you, seeing as this has actually been updated: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52941

The March edition of the Server Statistics. :) I don't know how often you'll want to update that, but I'm thinking it would either be every month or every other month. Any longer than that and you'll probably start to run into quite a few outdated statistics.
 

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My god...THANK YOU!!!

And I'm actually slightly saddened by woody being gone now...I wanted to all out flame him before he left. :( Not because I'd actually be that angry, but because I thoroughly enjoy flaming and don't get to do it very often. :)

Anyway, very nice and easy to follow list. I actually have even been looking for links to a few of these things, so this is quite useful. But...I do have a link for you, seeing as this has actually been updated: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52941

The March edition of the Server Statistics. :) I don't know how often you'll want to update that, but I'm thinking it would either be every month or every other month. Any longer than that and you'll probably start to run into quite a few outdated statistics.
Ah, yes. I was looking for the march list!:)
 

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Smogon actually updates its sets for the Platinum environment. Just look at the Scizor page and how it has Bullet Punch listed in its sets. And the standard Porygon-Z set now being the Scarf set instead of the Nasty Plot set.
Really?

That's good to know :p

....but I'm not sure they have updated every poke (or even a lot of them) since a lot of the movesets I've seen were different from the standard or usual version.

-:bowser:Bowser King
 

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OK, while Pokemon has actually gotten me into gaming, it is only more recently that I am trying to use "competitive" strategies. Here are some Questions I have (note, this is on Platinum)

Q1: This deals with hidden power. See, I am trying to raise a Charizard without bellydrum. One moveset mentions that you should use a grass or electric hidden power, yet every time I plug it into the IV calculator, it is all over the board. Is there a way to determine if at level 100 My Charizard will get one of these two types?

Q2: If not, what should I replace it with? This is the mixed sweeper set, so Flamethrower, Focus punch, Dragon pulse, and hidden power (to replace). Charizard is mild nature with 252 S. Atk and Spd EVs and 4 Atk ev's (Mild increases S. Atk and decreases Def.)

Q3: this is more related with Charizard himself (mine is male). I've been checking the tier lists, and Charizard is apparently Borderline, if not UU. This is somewhat concerning me, namely because I'm a fan. Is Charizard only there due to a popularity drop and stealth rock? If so, gee, Charizard is having a real popularity problem in Pokemon and In Brawl (that is a reason why PT is so low [Forced switching and stamina are the only real reasons {and Ivysaur}]).
 

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OK, while Pokemon has actually gotten me into gaming, it is only more recently that I am trying to use "competitive" strategies. Here are some Questions I have (note, this is on Platinum)

Q1: This deals with hidden power. See, I am trying to raise a Charizard without bellydrum. One moveset mentions that you should use a grass or electric hidden power, yet every time I plug it into the IV calculator, it is all over the board. Is there a way to determine if at level 100 My Charizard will get one of these two types?

Q2: If not, what should I replace it with? This is the mixed sweeper set, so Flamethrower, Focus punch, Dragon pulse, and hidden power (to replace). Charizard is mild nature with 252 S. Atk and Spd EVs and 4 Atk ev's (Mild increases S. Atk and decreases Def.)

Q3: this is more related with Charizard himself (mine is male). I've been checking the tier lists, and Charizard is apparently Borderline, if not UU. This is somewhat concerning me, namely because I'm a fan. Is Charizard only there due to a popularity drop and stealth rock? If so, gee, Charizard is having a real popularity problem in Pokemon and In Brawl (that is a reason why PT is so low [Forced switching and stamina are the only real reasons {and Ivysaur}]).
A1: A way you can do this, if you have access to it, is to wi-fi battle with someone and turn on that rule that makes all Pokemon lvl 100. It automatically calculates EVs and IVs into your Pokemon, so all you have to do is write down the numbers you're given for its stats and then plug them into the calculator. If you don't have access to wi-fi, however, then you're sort of screwed on an easy way (as far as I know). The only 'easy' option then is to get yourself a whole bunch of hidden power TMs and just teach it to all of them and then narrow down the options for what it could be on each of them. That's not a good idea, however, for obvious reasons.

A2: Charizard only has one grass alternative and one electric alternative, and unless you're running a sunny day team, I'd run the electric alternative, because the grass move it can learn is solar beam. Its electric move, however, is actually more powerful than HP electric and would be a second move that benefits from your attack stat, making it more useful. And that move is thunder punch.

A3: I'm pretty sure the shift is just because of the way the metagame is running right now. Like you mentioned, there's a lot of stealth rock, and stealth rock knocks out 50% of its health. Just for that reason alone, people will tend to avoid it. It also suffers from some rather common moves, which is another reason, and those two things alone nearly kill its chances at making it far in OU. If anything, it would only get used in such an environment because of people's love for the big guy.
 

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I am in need of a hasty Electrode.

EDIT: I'm all set. I got a Hasty Ditto from someone.
 

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A1: A way you can do this, if you have access to it, is to wi-fi battle with someone and turn on that rule that makes all Pokemon lvl 100. It automatically calculates EVs and IVs into your Pokemon, so all you have to do is write down the numbers you're given for its stats and then plug them into the calculator. If you don't have access to wi-fi, however, then you're sort of screwed on an easy way (as far as I know). The only 'easy' option then is to get yourself a whole bunch of hidden power TMs and just teach it to all of them and then narrow down the options for what it could be on each of them. That's not a good idea, however, for obvious reasons.

A2: Charizard only has one grass alternative and one electric alternative, and unless you're running a sunny day team, I'd run the electric alternative, because the grass move it can learn is solar beam. Its electric move, however, is actually more powerful than HP electric and would be a second move that benefits from your attack stat, making it more useful. And that move is thunder punch.

A3: I'm pretty sure the shift is just because of the way the metagame is running right now. Like you mentioned, there's a lot of stealth rock, and stealth rock knocks out 50% of its health. Just for that reason alone, people will tend to avoid it. It also suffers from some rather common moves, which is another reason, and those two things alone nearly kill its chances at making it far in OU. If anything, it would only get used in such an environment because of people's love for the big guy.

1: Yeah, I've decided to ditch Hidden power in favor of thunder punch (thank you move tutors!). At level 50 (the other competitive battle level), Hidden power is ghost, so it doesn't do so well (against waters anyway)

2: Yeah, But i also hit a snag. Because I invested my EVs in Special attack and speed, Thunder punch isn't as powerful ( I don't even 1 hit kill level 50 staraptors, that's how bad). That explains why Hidden power is more favorable. Of course, with hidden power being a miss and Solar beam the only option (and no sunny day), that is about all that I can do (outside getting a Garchomp [yes I know it's now uber])

3: OK, that makes sense. Charizard still beats Garchomp's fate. Charizard , while designed for standard, is kinda borderline, IMO, as he's kinda undepowered in the Standard, but definitely designed for it and overpowered in the UU. Garchomp, is Overpowered in the Standard, but it is dead meat in Uber. Common weakness, and has "mediocre stats" (If Darkrai's stats are mediocre in the Uber, than so is Garchomp's), and without a nifty overpowered move (Why Darkrai is uber in the first place). It also helps that I'm not using a bellyzard, and that will save me some HP.
 

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OK, while Pokemon has actually gotten me into gaming, it is only more recently that I am trying to use "competitive" strategies. Here are some Questions I have (note, this is on Platinum)

Q1: This deals with hidden power. See, I am trying to raise a Charizard without bellydrum. One moveset mentions that you should use a grass or electric hidden power, yet every time I plug it into the IV calculator, it is all over the board. Is there a way to determine if at level 100 My Charizard will get one of these two types?

Q2: If not, what should I replace it with? This is the mixed sweeper set, so Flamethrower, Focus punch, Dragon pulse, and hidden power (to replace). Charizard is mild nature with 252 S. Atk and Spd EVs and 4 Atk ev's (Mild increases S. Atk and decreases Def.)

Q3: this is more related with Charizard himself (mine is male). I've been checking the tier lists, and Charizard is apparently Borderline, if not UU. This is somewhat concerning me, namely because I'm a fan. Is Charizard only there due to a popularity drop and stealth rock? If so, gee, Charizard is having a real popularity problem in Pokemon and In Brawl (that is a reason why PT is so low [Forced switching and stamina are the only real reasons {and Ivysaur}]).
2. You could run Overheat alongside Flamethrower so you could either switch in and hit something for massive damage or sweep lategame. You could also run Air Slash even though it gets terrible coverage. You could still run a Hidden Power of a different type; it'd be inferior to HP Electric/Grass but possibly still useful.

Edit: I'm not sure Thunderpunch is the best choice. Keep in mind that a SE Thunderpunch does no more than a neutral Focus Punch.
 

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1: Yeah, I've decided to ditch Hidden power in favor of thunder punch (thank you move tutors!). At level 50 (the other competitive battle level), Hidden power is ghost, so it doesn't do so well (against waters anyway)
Actually...I just thought of something to do for the hidden power thing so you can use it for future reference in case thunderpunch doesn't work out. Basically, just teach a male Charizard hidden power and breed it. :laugh: Every Pokemon you get will then have HP and you can just test the ones that have the right nature to see if they work alright. You might also want to look into IV Breeding guides. I know there are good ones out there, and they're all pretty easy to find with google. Actually, here's a link!

And...here is one for you to help out in figuring up IVs earlier on, if it isn't what you already use.

I just had to start looking into this today for a Pokemon, so I thought I'd tell you what I started finding out about ways to make it simpler. It's actually much easier than I thought. :p
 

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Hmm... I've been wondering. Is it in any way possible to get a Shedinja with more than 1 HP, even if its HP is maxed out in IVs AND EVs?
 

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Hmm... I've been wondering. Is it in any way possible to get a Shedinja with more than 1 HP, even if its HP is maxed out in IVs AND EVs?
I swear I had a shedinja with 2 or 3 HP once...
 

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Don't think so.

Either way, Shedinga is supposed to annoy the **** out of people.

Of course, with me being more offensively oriented, I may not pack any (or pack only 1)
 

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Hmm... I've been wondering. Is it in any way possible to get a Shedinja with more than 1 HP, even if its HP is maxed out in IVs AND EVs?
A definite no. Even if you could, I honestly can't believe it would be an amount big enough to make it survive moves that hit through Wonder Guard. :)
 

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for things like the Battle Tower, which three pokemon have you found to have given you the greatest success? the movesets, abilities, items and all the jazz too if u want to share
 

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for things like the Battle Tower, which three pokemon have you found to have given you the greatest success? the movesets, abilities, items and all the jazz too if u want to share
These movesets are all ripped from Smogon, but they work, so there you go.

Diamond:

Suicune @ Lefties
Bold
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpA
Surf
CM
Roar
Ice Beam

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest
4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spd
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Hydro Pump
Fire Blast

Latios @ Expert Belt (since Soul Dew doesn't work in BT) - mix of the Specs w/out Choice & Diverse Sweeper movesets
Timid
4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spd
Draco Meteor
Grass Knot
Thunder
Recover

In Platinum, I use the Action Replay to lift the Frontier's ban on Ubers and use Specs Dialga, Mixed Sweeper Palkia, and Coverage Sweeper Mewtwo. The Dialga and Palkia don't see a lot of action though. :)

With the Mewtwo, I gave him a Modest Nature and modified the moveset a bit - instead of Thunder/Ice Beam/Aura Sphere/Fire Blast, I use T-Bolt/Ice Beam/Aura Sphere/Flamethrower. Mewtwo's massive SpA allows me to trade the extra power of Fire Blast for the guaranteed Accuracy of Flamethrower. Also, when I did the Battle Hall, I replaced Flamethrower with Shadow Ball to do the Ghost & Psychic parts of the challenge.
 

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I has question. What other options are there for countering Tyranitar? Besides:

-Relying on inaccurate Focus Blast

-Scizor
 

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I have always wondered, does a critical hit double the base attack stat of the move, or the damage delt after calculating items/defences/ect..? Also same with items? like life orb does 130% damage instead of 100% damage, but is it 130% base stat or other.
 

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I have always wondered, does a critical hit double the base attack stat of the move, or the damage delt after calculating items/defences/ect..? Also same with items? like life orb does 130% damage instead of 100% damage, but is it 130% base stat or other.
Critical hits are the last thing put into the equation of attacks, so it's 200% after everything. If I remember correctly, however, there really wasn't a difference no matter where it was placed, so that won't matter as far as base damage goes. The reason why they do this, though, is because unlike super effective moves, critical hits ignore any buffs that make the critical hit disadvantageous, so it's put there to calculate and eliminate them if needed; such as if your attack has been lowered, then it ignores that and you attack with your base attack. It does the same thing if your opponent has increased their defense. Because of this, criticals are ALWAYS to the advantage of the user. Unless they were under something like Destiny Bond, of course. x_x

And just like the critical hit scenario, I'm pretty sure you get the same number no matter where you put the life orb's 1.3x in the equation, so it doesn't really matter. I actually tried this before, and I don't remember there being a difference...?
 

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Unless they were under something like Destiny Bong, of course. x_x
ummmm im gonna assume this isnt a reference to the B.O.D., as it could very well be a 1-letter typo. however, if it is, thats pretty metal.
 

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ummmm im gonna assume this isnt a reference to the B.O.D., as it could very well be a 1-letter typo. however, if it is, thats pretty metal.
o_o
Edited. I didn't even notice the typo, so thanks for pointing that out. Made me lol when I saw it though. :laugh:
 

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When breeding pokemon, do the parent's IVs have any effect on the bred Pokemon's?

And, with berries that lower the damage givin by super effective attacks, how much does it lower them by?
 

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When breeding pokemon, do the parent's IVs have any effect on the bred Pokemon's?

And, with berries that lower the damage givin by super effective attacks, how much does it lower them by?
I'd love to explain IVs, but it's sort of complicated to explain...all I can tell you is yes, they do, and here's a link. That is just the first part, but it has links to the other three if you need them. It should basically tell you just about everything you want to know about breeding; including IV breeding.

The berries halve the amount of damage a super-effective move would normally do to you, so if it's just super-effective, then it's treated as though it's neutral damage, and if it's double-effective, then it's treated as though it's super-effective.
 

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I'd love to explain IVs, but it's sort of complicated to explain...all I can tell you is yes, they do, and here's a link. That is just the first part, but it has links to the other three if you need them. It should basically tell you just about everything you want to know about breeding; including IV breeding.

The berries halve the amount of damage a super-effective move would normally do to you, so if it's just super-effective, then it's treated as though it's neutral damage, and if it's double-effective, then it's treated as though it's super-effective.
Right thanks. I'd never seen that breeding guide before, it'll be very helpful.
 

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If trick is used, do the two Pokemon that traded items keep their new items the whole match, regardless of if they switch or one dies?
 
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