Project M Social Thread

[Xebenkeck]

so much better, thx HDT for posting that here, i dont venture to BrawlBox that often now with all the reconstructions thier doing. Who ever did that, 5 stars.

Oh BTW Ness better be this good in P:M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kijT...xt=C3e4fc42UPOEgsToPDskJ7mEIzz9Gs1Rz8BjBOODJr

And fox is too good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg_V...xt=C32b9940UPOEgsToPDskJJDD5rvgGHZlkWTaZy_N7A and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAm8eUMrG6A

 

[drsusredfish]

im looking at neko's stream replay. Is sonics spindash slower and is he floatier? and did he sheild cancel sonics grounded down b?

 

[crush]

has landing detection been fixed yet?

 

[Vigilante]

has landing detection been fixed yet?

Lol, a long time ago. The only things remaining are little landing animation bugs that we know about and know how to fix. But in most cases, the only reason they're not all fixed it because it would be a hassle to fix them when they are subject to change, lol.

 

[genkaku]

lol, I found the svn ages ago.
It's been changed since then, though.

 

[Vigilante]

There is no SVN. We actually get all of our files from packages that self-destruct five minutes after we opened them.

 

[KingClubber]

Great Sonic changes, though i still think Sonic's Side-B needs some re-imagining i'm sure Sonic fans will give it a

 

[JOE!]

I see influences from my remix in there

I R happy

 

[Shadic]

I see influences from my remix in there

....Wat?

 

[drsusredfish]

do crouch canceling effects happen a soon as you press down or when you enter the looping animation for crouching?

 

[9Kplus1]

crouch cancelling effects happen when playing against roy

 

[JOE!]

....Wat?

I posted a thing on Smashmods like, last month that had:

-Ability to cancel HA after-hit
-Sonic Eagle (the new Fair)
-Insta-Shield Nair (tho in this the "air" doesnt have slight disjoint)
-Sonic Flare Dsmash (looks more like the source material now lol)


ya..

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

crouch cancelling effects happen when playing against roy

So only when playing on Dantarion's Wii?

 

[ph00tbag]

Oh BTW Ness better be this good in P:M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kijT...xt=C3e4fc42UPOEgsToPDskJ7mEIzz9Gs1Rz8BjBOODJr

I for one would rather Ness not be low tier in Project:M.

 

[Vigilante]

Ness is pretty good. Just the ability to D-air on frame 1 and making his bad attacks useful is a big plus. There's much more to him too.

 

[Xebenkeck]

In melee Ness had three fundenmental flaws that destroyed him,

-First, his recovery was total balls.
-Secondly he had very good aerials, but had absolute pis-poor range on them. DJC'ing helped a bit by giving him great aerial movement, but wasnt the full answer. Range in general was a problem.
-Third he had no real CC options. His dsmash would always wiff, dtilt could be CC right back, same with ftilt and jab and fsmash took to long.

All these are addressed in P:M from what I can see.
-recovery is miles better
-they kept the brawl range of most his aerials, plus most of his moveset looks to have better range, like ftilt. Usmash, Dsmash, jab, GRAB O THX THE LORD GRAB RANGE.
-his dtilt hits up/launches, dsmash looks like it will HIT something.

As a Ness main he looks perfect atm. The only thing left I would suggest is make his downB activate frame 1 like a shine, and have a cooldown of like 1-3 frames. Then you know, ness could actually use it to absorb something on reaction and not get punished for it. I dream of being able to absorb lasers without worrying about the lag on psiMagnet.

 

[Shadic]

-Ability to cancel HA after-hit
-Sonic Eagle (the new Fair)
-Insta-Shield Nair (tho in this the "air" doesnt have slight disjoint)
-Sonic Flare Dsmash (looks more like the source material now lol)

I'm not sure on HA canceling, but the rest of them have been ideas floating around in the PMBR for a long time now. Sonic Flare has been part of the main build for at least six months now. (You're welcome, Sonic mains. ) Sonic Eagle has been proposed a few times, but never acted on until the resident Sonic mains decided to make their character more interesting.

Insta-shield Nair has been an idea since B+.

That said, Sonic fans should keep an eye out for some more possible changes. We're really trying to bring more spice to the character.

 

[JOE!]

well, lolz.

 

[KingClubber]

JOE!'s true feelings....

Spoiler

 

[cmart]

HA canceling has also been around forever, as far as I can tell. We just tweaked the cancels to make them more useful. So... yeah sorry Joe. Great minds think alike?

 

[jalued]

Ness is pretty good. Just the ability to D-air on frame 1 and making his bad attacks useful is a big plus. There's much more to him too.

are alot of characters being given 1 frame moves? it seems like a running theme atm:

Ness's dair
Sonic's downB
ZSS's jab

i guess it makes sense if you are wanting to compete with melee top tiers

 

[JCaesar]

ZSS's jab came out on frame 1 in Brawl (not "given" it), and the other two come out on like frame 5. Frame 1 is a big deal and it's not something we're handing out like candy.

The only other non-shine moves I can think of that come out on frame 1 are Squirtle's jab (from Brawl), and G&W's up-B. Though I may be forgetting something.

 

[Time/SpaceMage]

Lucas's jab was frame 2 iirc. How is his AAA combo? I found it really hard to connect with the 3rd hit in the demo.

 

[standardtoaster]

are alot of characters being given 1 frame moves? it seems like a running theme atm:

Ness's dair
Sonic's downB
ZSS's jab

i guess it makes sense if you are wanting to compete with melee top tiers

Vigilante made a mistake. Ness' dair does not hit on frame one. It hits on frame 5.

 

[I R MarF]

ZSS's jab came out on frame 1 in Brawl (not "given" it), and the other two come out on like frame 5. Frame 1 is a big deal and it's not something we're handing out like candy.

The only other non-shine moves I can think of that come out on frame 1 are Squirtle's jab (from Brawl), and G&W's up-B. Though I may be forgetting something.

A what frame is Marth invincible during counter? I read somewhere it was 1, but i'm not sure.

 

[GHNeko]

Marth counter is deff not invincible on frame 1.

And lol @ joe.

poor guy.

 

[crush]

I think frame 5 for marths counter, but im probably ********.

 

[JCaesar]

Marth's up-B is invincible and hits on frame 5 just like Melee.

Oh counter? Whoops. *shrug*

 

[standardtoaster]

crush was right :O

 

[Vigilante]

I do know his down air coems way earlier though. It's pretty much the N64 one, lol.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I know Brawl Mario's Up-B is invincible frame 1 until a frame after the first hitbox comes out.


Also I'm pretty sure Ness 64 DAir was frame 3. I'd have to check (I did some pretty in-depth frame data working on Brawl 64)

 

[phurgawtin]

Does Wolf's shine still have the ever-so-useful 9 frames of invincibility?

 

[GHNeko]

no. it works like fox/falco shine now.

 

[phurgawtin]

damn, that was probably my favorite detail of the character. appreciate the fast reply, though.

 

[Xebenkeck]

isnt bowser upB invicible frames 1-6? and i believe Marths upB was also invincible frames 1-5 in Brawl.

 

[GHNeko]

Well. It seems like only Kirisame is gonna be over here today. So expect Ike vs the World.

He'll be here later tho.

Ill also be making dinner tonight so expect slow downs later on tonight. V:

 

[GHNeko]

Kirisame is here, so the stream will be up in a few minutes.

http://www.twitch.tv/ghneko/#

Take your seats. It's Ike vs The World.

 

[hotdogturtle]

I think frame 5 for marths counter, but im probably ********.

crush was right :O

About which part?

Spoiler

 

[MonkUnit]

Goddammit I almost fell off my chair. LOL

 

[curry9186]

*slow clap*

That face was the only reason I ever enjoyed watching Spongebob.