R.I.P. Kjell Anders "Nappy" Peterson.

[Limeee]

snake is extremely overrated as a character

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

I think Snake is only slightly overrated.
I think Diddy is more overrated.
Falco and Wario for second and third best.

I'm making a big shell stage. Thankfully, I have all the source material texture but I can't seem to find they sky. >_<
Other than that, I'm sucesfullly gathering the needed models from Brawl to make it.

Anyway, E3 is tomorrow??

 

[nevershootme]

yea E3 is this week....

anyways, i'm still in retirement lol...

 

[napZzz]

snake is extremely overrated as a character

this

retirement is 4 skrubs

 

[Underload]

Snake's the 2nd best character in the game. Always has, always will be. The whole 'there's only 3 Snakes that can place well at nationals' idea is complete bull****, too.

 

[Berserker.]

**** I can't wait for E3.

I agree with Underload.

I feel like playing Fatal Frame for some reason -.-

 

[etecoon]

Snake's the 2nd best character in the game. Always has, always will be. The whole 'there's only 3 Snakes that can place well at nationals' idea is complete bull****, too.

devils advocate mode: if MK were ever banned, snake wouldn't be top 3

he's not that amazing in general, he just does unusually well against MK(and still noticeabley loses lmao)

but yeah, MK allowed metagame = snake is #2, unless most CPs are banned and then IC's have a shot at him(and MK for that matter)

too bad my absurd theorycraft will never get tested, MK MU vs banhammer 95:5

 

[Underload]

devils advocate mode: if MK were ever banned, snake wouldn't be top 3

he's not that amazing in general, he just does unusually well against MK(and still noticeabley loses lmao)

but yeah, MK allowed metagame = snake is #2, unless most CPs are banned and then IC's have a shot at him(and MK for that matter)

too bad my absurd theorycraft will never get tested, MK MU vs banhammer 95:5

I think this might just be the stupidest thing I've ever read.

 

[etecoon]

nah, snake is hellaaaa overrated and you know it. without MK his MU spread is prolly worse than like, IC's(now lose to no one), marth, wario, and maybe a couple others, and his worse MU's increase in appearance a lot

 

[OverLade]

Snake would still be the best character but only by a TINY margin.

 

[Fogo]

Snake is ****, he just has hard matchups. I still think he would remain on top at least number wise if mk was gone.

 

[etecoon]

probably would, but that's because he would have the best players, unless all MK mains pick up the same character(not going to happen + a lot will quit, and a lot will use snake <_<)

 

[-Ran]

MK keeps match ups that aren't favorable to Snake in check, or denies characters that have even match ups against Snake from being tournament viable. With the removal of MK, you'll have more Olimars, Falcos, King Dededes, Pikachus, Marths, Toon Link, and really the list goes on. Snake plays way too different from MK, so you'll see people probably pick up Marth before they'd pick up Snake.

Then again, it's hard to say where people are going to go with a character, when MK has a 42% utilization rate in the top 100 Brawl players, and Snake only has an 8% utilization rate. That's once you include secondaries.

 

[Tech-Nelium the Shark]

probably would, but that's because he would have the best players, unless all MK mains pick up the same character(not going to happen + a lot will quit, and a lot will use snake <_<)

You really think a lot of MK player would quit? I read something about M2K saying he would quit smash if they banned MK. But some MK's have good backups like Sebrik and Lee Martin who are still playable in tournament level.

 

[RATED]

a vid of me playing after being like 1 month without playing either way : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebjoy8hivf8

also the new final fantasy for DS looks great.

 

[napZzz]

m2k wouldn't quit. He'd just switch to the best character on the list or go back to DDD. He'd have to get a job without smash and megaknight maybe

 

[Goldenadept]

new final fantasy on the ds looks amazingly awesome

 

[smashkng]

Snake IS the 2nd best character in the game, it's the same in almost if not in all tiers in the world. Snake has 0 bad matchups, he just has annoying ones like Olimar and DDD.

 

[Limeee]

when i said snake is overrated, i meant he's still 2nd, but not close to how good MK is.

and snake DOES have bad match ups.

nothing big however

 

[smashkng]

Bad MU means it is unwinnable, all matchups Snake has are winnable, they are at least close to even. They may be worse than that in some stages though, like MK in Brinstar.

 

[-Ran]

No, a bad match up means that you don't control the pace or the positioning of the match for the bulk of the time. I can assure you, Snake has bad match ups.

 

[Underload]

*says Snake has bad matchups*
*doesn't list any examples*
*I lol*

 

[Limeee]

olimar, D3, MK, marth, diddy, pikachu, ness

most of those except the first two are very arguable

and just like MK, a "bad match up" is a very slight disadvantage for snake

 

[Turazrok]

*says Snake has bad matchups*
*doesn't list any examples*
*I lol*

*Acts like he's cool*
*I cry inside?"

Spoiler

I get infracted for trolling.

 

[Limeee]

i put a vid up for critique

please help

 

[Underload]

*Acts like he's cool*
*I cry inside?"

Spoiler

I get infracted for trolling.

*Implying that I've ever infracted you for anything*

 

[Turazrok]

*Implying that I've ever infracted you for anything*

Fair enough. I'm still thinking that you mod like Kaylo! Please namesearch this.

 

[napZzz]

kaylo! gave me a pretty dumb warning once

 

[Zajice]

This one time, Kaylo did something.

 

[Underload]

Fair enough. I'm still thinking that you mod like Kaylo!

Since when were you allowed to judge on things like this?

**** outta here wannabe /b/tard

 

[Tech-Nelium the Shark]

olimar, D3, MK, marth, diddy, pikachu, ness

most of those except the first two are very arguable

and just like MK, a "bad match up" is a very slight disadvantage for snake

I disagree with D3 sure he is annoying but if you don't fall into an utilt when is he going to kill you. Marth is bad for our health as his juggling game is too good. Diddy has bananas, learn to use them on his level or better or you lose. I know Pika has a chain grab on us and thunder edge guarding but what else does he posses that endangers us. Ness and Olimar know in theory are bad but I haven't played any good ones to know the MU so I can't say.

 

[Turazrok]

!!

since when were you allowed to judge on things like this?

**** outta here wannabe /b/tard

Hey! Im a doctor and I have every right to judge everyone!

 

[Yumewomiteru]

DDD is the worst for Snake, MK barely beats Snake. ZSS　and Marth ｇｏｅｓ even with Snake imo. The rest loses to Snake, Olimar included.

 

[ErikG]

Diddy has bananas, learn to use them on his level or better or you lose. I know Pika has a chain grab on us and thunder edge guarding but what else does he posses that endangers us.

Diddy's moveset works with the bananas, and Snake's moveset simply does not work too well with them. The only nice thing I noticed is that a D-throw on a banana forces them into a trip for a free regrab/tilt.

Pikachu also has pretty decent juggling. His thunder also makes getting knocked high very dangerous too. If Pikachu knocks you off stage, or into the air, expect to take a lot of damage.

edit: I would say Snake's match ups are even overall. He only really gets slight advantages or slight disadvantages in most match ups.

 

[Tech-Nelium the Shark]

Diddy's moveset works with the bananas, and Snake's moveset simply does not work too well with them. The only nice thing I noticed is that a D-throw on a banana forces them into a trip for a free regrab/tilt.

maybe i misspoke but what i meant is you need to learn to use them well as throwing it offstage just puts one back in his control. i still disagree with DDD being bad and i think olimar is worse.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

.......................



This took a very long time and I still have to do the collisions.

 

[Underload]

Is that just a random strut, or what? I haven't played too much MGS2 (only got to the part with Vamp & the sniper rifle).

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

LOOSELY based off of one whose bridge is broken.
The only way to get it more accurate is to import the model.

 

[napZzz]

eternal yoshi da haxx master

 

[Zajice]

Seriously.

EY, stop being so awesome.