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Scar on the Melee vs Brawl debate: What does competitive really mean?
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Proverbs
Smash Lord
The unfortunate part is there still aren't many combos in Brawl. That Lucario is beast. Too bad there aren't a lot of other characters that have real combos (except really stuid chaingrabs or locks against walls).
LOL_Master
Smash Lord
wow, lucario is just amazing, now that i see that, brawl is just as competitive as melee, ohhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhh
g-regulate
Smash Hero
i like that brawl is solely based on prediction. that means that someone has to outsmart me to beat me, not abuse gayness.
oh wait nevermind, all good brawl players abuse gayness too
oh wait nevermind, all good brawl players abuse gayness too
Ban3
Smash Journeyman
...not me....im dont abuse gay sh*t....i like that brawl is solely based on prediction. that means that someone has to outsmart me to beat me, not abuse gayness.
oh wait nevermind, all good brawl players abuse gayness too
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
<_< No, what you said was still valid.i like that brawl is solely based on prediction. that means that someone has to outsmart me to beat me, not abuse gayness.
oh wait nevermind, all good brawl players abuse gayness too
>_> Gayness = Smart Thing to do = Winning.
See?
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LOL_Master
Smash Lord
doesn't matter, brawl still fails compared to melee in terms of competitiveness
arrowhead
Smash Ace
this equation is incoherent
Should have teched that platform...
SmashBrother2008
Smash Lord
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This same thing happened to Halo 2 when Halo 3 came out. I know poeple who still like Halo 2 better. The Melee/Halo 2 effect is more of a reaction from poeple who feel that they perform better in Melee. I believe that this is only becuase they have played Melee for 7 years. Remember when SSBM came out? There were some 64 players complaining that Melee "just felt too different".
Just my opinion, though...
Just my opinion, though...
Adi
Smash Lord
To quote Gimpy "No amount of advanced techniques can save the game from the fact that it has no hitstun".
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
He could've Airdodged before the Aura Sphere came out as well.
LOL
Also, after reading some of the comments (since I don't like watching Brawl movies), they basically claim that Dedede was horrible.
when melee came out I hated it because it was too different than 64(best game EVER...maybe not quite).
When brawl came out, I liked it more than melee for some reason, maybe cause I was better at it and my 64 tactics worked a little better. But 64 is still better. man that game rocks. Sorry im not gonna read the thread and waste my life, that thing was like 4 pages long on the first post.
too many reflectors in brawl. Any ol joe can reflect. Only fox could do it before, made fox cool, now hes just another joe and I cant play with him. Brawls also too defensive. Jeez you can sheild, airdodge, counter, roll, even landdodge(wtf????). When I play against some good brawl players all they do is dodge every single attack while shooting missles and doing quick hits between my move time. yeah thats really not too fun. and man anyone can grab the edge in this game, I never see people that miss the edge by like 2 feet, you always make it back or get hit so hard you fly off the screen. wtf.
Brawl is a fun game and I do enjoy it but I just think 64 is funner and better and more skilled....hmm that last point is debatable but ima stick with it.
When brawl came out, I liked it more than melee for some reason, maybe cause I was better at it and my 64 tactics worked a little better. But 64 is still better. man that game rocks. Sorry im not gonna read the thread and waste my life, that thing was like 4 pages long on the first post.
too many reflectors in brawl. Any ol joe can reflect. Only fox could do it before, made fox cool, now hes just another joe and I cant play with him. Brawls also too defensive. Jeez you can sheild, airdodge, counter, roll, even landdodge(wtf????). When I play against some good brawl players all they do is dodge every single attack while shooting missles and doing quick hits between my move time. yeah thats really not too fun. and man anyone can grab the edge in this game, I never see people that miss the edge by like 2 feet, you always make it back or get hit so hard you fly off the screen. wtf.
Brawl is a fun game and I do enjoy it but I just think 64 is funner and better and more skilled....hmm that last point is debatable but ima stick with it.
thumbswayup
Smash Master
Don't you just love when people do that?
Nigerian Star Storm
Smash Ace
Nope -_-......
Can we please get this thing closed?
Can we please get this thing closed?
arrowhead
Smash Ace
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
So you hated Melee because you sucked at it?
Also, if you want this thread closed, it's only because you can't take the truth.
I felt like responding with something disparaging rather than picking apart your entire post and pointing out exactly what was wrong with each statement.
Ban3
Smash Journeyman
how old are you 8? 9? this statment makes no sense a second grader can organize there thoughts better
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
Well at least you acknowledge.
Still, the part I BOLDED is one of the main issues at hand here going on here at SWF.
if you disagree with what I said go ahead and "pick it apart". You cant really do that though because most of what I said is opinion and not fact but if you see I have said somethin wrong by all means criticize me. The whole point of me posting is to share my opinion, have it criticized, and attempt to defend it. gameon!
Ban3
Smash Journeyman
backing up ur opinion with proof would help
Oh yay, another one of those people who go "Nuh uh! I'm not wrong because OPINIONS are NEVER wrong!"
UberBlackCleric
Smash Cadet
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Didn't we do this like, 5 pages ago? I mean, it wouldn't be that hard for this guy to just the back button a few times and see that his argument has already been done
thumbswayup
Smash Master
So....Brawl sucks!
gantrain05
Smash Master
i fail to see how brawl is competetive, taking out AT's doesn't make it non-competetive. it just means u have to rely on your reflexes and tactics rather than waveshining everyone into an Usmash and winning. its just a different playstyle its not non-competitive.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
thumbswayup
Smash Master
I agree 100%.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
*facepalm*
Sliq
Smash Master
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People who sucked at Melee are just going to say Brawl is better because they aren't getting wrecked as bad anymore. Give them time to start sucking again, and only the people that do well at tournaments will say they like it better, and that's ONLY because they are better at it.
Anyone that says Brawl is better is a newbie with no idea what he is talking about, or someone who is considerable "better" at Brawl than they were at Melee. The end.
Anyone that says Brawl is better is a newbie with no idea what he is talking about, or someone who is considerable "better" at Brawl than they were at Melee. The end.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
Hehe... thanks ^_^. I'm actually looking into some bigger venues for some more tournaments. Until then, I'm going to see about striking up a deal with a local place for more tourneys.
EDIT @ Sliq: Actually, I kind of do worse at Brawl; I actually lose against my friends now and then.
I still think Brawl is pretty good, though; I enjoy it and I've seen how well it can do in a competitive setting, so that's enough evidence for me (for now; we'll see how long Brawl lasts...).This isn't closed yet? There isn't any valid arguments on either side! I mean, look at what is quoted. Really. Really.
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