SLASTv2 - Smells Like a Smash Tournament version 2: 09/18/2010, Wichita, KS

[Sage JoWii]

Those stages should be tested in this tournament for awesomeness.

 

[Affinity]

-Double Post-

 

[Affinity]

I need a teammate for this.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. Please, only aesthetic hacks are accepted. Do not add any hacks that will change the inner workings of the game (i.e. no tripping, s-canceling, etc.)

 

[Dnyce]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. Please, only aesthetic hacks are accepted. Do not add any hacks that will change the inner workings of the game (i.e. no tripping, s-canceling, etc.)

Any form of code done to alter Olimar's costume, the Character Select screen or stages in any way I will not play on. I am not trying to be finicky, Nintendo makes complex codes not meant to be hacked and any alteration in code concerning Olimar can change the pikmin he gets and the frames of his moves. Any serious player wouldn't accept it.

 

[The Real Inferno]

I'd recommend nothing beyond music hacks. (And yes, I got my fixed ISO working right now)

 

[Dnyce]

I'd recommend nothing beyond music hacks. (And yes, I got my fixed ISO working right now)

Standard hacks like infinite replay and tags in replay too ;o

 

[The Real Inferno]

I meant, content modifying hacks-wise, but yeah

 

[fragbait]

Any form of code done to alter Olimar's costume, the Character Select screen or stages in any way I will not play on. I am not trying to be finicky, Nintendo makes complex codes not meant to be hacked and any alteration in code concerning Olimar can change the pikmin he gets and the frames of his moves. Any serious player wouldn't accept it.

Lol, Olimar main beats MK and now they make demands xD

Spoiler

jk fino i'm just trollin

 

[Dnyce]

Lol, Olimar main beats M2K and now they make demands xD

Spoiler

jk fino i'm just trollin

*fixed*

But really...

-----------|START|--------------------------
Generate Article/Prop - 0x0,
Asynchronous Timer - Frames=2.00x,
Frame Speed - Multiplier=RA-Float[4],
Asynchronous Timer - Frames=5.00x,
Frame Speed - Multiplier=1.00x,
Asynchronous Timer - Frames=8.00x,
Allow Interrupt
----------------------------|END|-----------

RA-Float4 gets overwritten frequently within fighter.pac, especially for run speed and several other scenarios. Utilizing it in his successful pluck subaction can occasionally result in a bad write hence the variable pluck speeds.

 

[The Real Inferno]

*fixed*

But really...



RA-Float4 gets overwritten frequently within fighter.pac, especially for run speed and several other scenarios. Utilizing it in his successful pluck subaction can occasionally result in a bad write hence the variable pluck speeds.

How is Fighter.pac getting overwritten? It's a separate file from the character Texture files (located between Falco and Fox's data), though it's listed in the same general section (Partition 2 -DATA->fighter->fighter.pac). Unless someone included moveset info inside Olimar's PCS/PAC files, or edited his Fitmotion, I don't really see how it would override fighter.pac, or affect that file in any way. Is this just something that happens to Olimar? Could you show me where this partition is that affects his pluck speed? I'm genuinely curious as to why that would happen.

 

[Dnyce]

How is Fighter.pac getting overwritten? It's a separate file from the character Texture files (located between Falco and Fox's data), though it's listed in the same general section (Partition 2 -DATA->fighter->fighter.pac). Unless someone included moveset info inside Olimar's PCS/PAC files, or edited his Fitmotion, I don't really see how it would override fighter.pac, or affect that file in any way. Is this just something that happens to Olimar? Could you show me where this partition is that affects his pluck speed? I'm genuinely curious as to why that would happen.

I'm not necessarily the specific person to talk to about coding, lol. I was told this by shaanus or w/e his name is. From what I understood, any change in the game can affect Olimar in those ways and it's basically bad coding on Nintendo's part.

I'm also, in general, against character texture hacks, and stage textures due to their known variable effect on a stage's PPA.

EDIT: PPA means Pikmin Pluck Advantage - the change in the percent of pikmin on a stage.

 

[The Real Inferno]

That's really weird. I would propose though, that if Olimar's Pikmin Pluck is contained within Fighter.pac, then loading a clean one through the SD card itself would most likely circumvent that glitch (I'm guessing at this point of course, but it makes sense to me). Yeah it sounds like data that should have just been all coded into Olimar himself was spread out around several different files in the game. I would assume this was done to keep his character file size down.

 

[Dnyce]

That's really weird. I would propose though, that if Olimar's Pikmin Pluck is contained within Fighter.pac, then loading a clean one through the SD card itself would most likely circumvent that glitch (I'm guessing at this point of course, but it makes sense to me). Yeah it sounds like data that should have just been all coded into Olimar himself was spread out around several different files in the game. I would assume this was done to keep his character file size down.

TL;DR - Olimar is ghey

But thanks for explaining it a bit. I like the game as it came though, casually I like stage texture hacks, but character hacks beyond simple recoloring are *shiver*
lol.

 

[The Real Inferno]

TL;DR - Olimar is ghey

But thanks for explaining it a bit. I like the game as it came though, casually I like stage texture hacks, but character hacks beyond simple recoloring are *shiver*
lol.

I just keep hacking the game more and more. My Olimars don't have helmets anymore lol

If you're seriously training though and not just having friendlies, it's a good idea to turn it all off.

 

[leatherhead93]

Im at disssss!!!!!!!!!!!
Also i can bring a wii but not sure about a full setup if thats a problem

Also labor day weekend isnt good for me because of a family reuion but i can maybe figure something out if it comes down to it.

 

[mangan]

No one.

I'M TAKING MID-LOW TIER MONEY MATCHES NIKKAS.

I'll $5 MM you. My DK vs your Ness.

 

[Affinity]

I'll $5 MM you. My DK vs your Ness.

Same here Frag.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. Is holding this tournament during the Labor Day weekend going to present some problems for a lot of people? Let me know so that I can change the date to the 18th. Otherwise, we'll just leave it at the 4th.

 

[Dnyce]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. Is holding this tournament during the Labor Day weekend going to present some problems for a lot of people? Let me know so that I can change the date to the 18th. Otherwise, we'll just leave it at the 4th.

18th would be better

 

[Affinity]

RA-Float4 gets overwritten frequently within fighter.pac, especially for run speed and several other scenarios. Utilizing it in his successful pluck subaction can occasionally result in a bad write hence the variable pluck speeds.

Fighter.pac only affects characters. How can stages affect it?

 

[mangan]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. Is holding this tournament during the Labor Day weekend going to present some problems for a lot of people? Let me know so that I can change the date to the 18th. Otherwise, we'll just leave it at the 4th.

I'd prefer if it's kept to the 4th. I can't be the only one who's already asked off from work already.

 

[Affinity]

I vote for the 4th as well.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. The poll is up, and it closes on the 21st, approximately 2 weeks from the initial date of SLASTv2. If more people favor having the tourney on the 18th, then I will see that we have it on the 18th.

 

[leatherhead93]

18th would be best for me.

 

[fource]

I'm voting 18th as well.

 

[Affinity]

I want to change my vote to the 18th. I'll talk to a mod and see if he can fix that for me.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. I can just make a mental note of the fact.

 

[Feng Shui]

Abstaining. Weekends are always a happy. As long as that keeps happening I'm cool.

 

[leatherhead93]

Making it later also gives use more time to hype this right? :D

 

[Typ_Ex]

so what should i vote for....

 

[MJG]

Hype

Name: Ave <3
State: KS
Setup: Hell ya.

 

[Dnyce]

Thank you in advance! And prepare yourself for the first tournament of the circuit!

Lol... Copy Pasta

 

[Affinity]

Sooo... 18th?


Remember: My vote was switched.

 

[leatherhead93]

bump.........

 

[fource]

bump.........

Wanna MM?

$5 Diddy vs. Wario and $5 Wario dittos?

:D Feel free to decline.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right.

Next Update

Date Change
The date for the tournament has been changed to the 18th of September. That is the 3rd Saturday of that month.

Circuit Event
Due to some unexpected inconveniences in the two other states of this circuit, I have decided to make SLASTv2 a circuit event. This shall be the second event of the circuit, so pot cuts will apply.

Stagelist
I'm adding the four counter-pick stages in question to the stage list: Jungle Japes, Distant Planet, Luigi's Mansion, and Port Town Aero Dive.

Brawl Minus
This is a relatively new event that I plan to run at my monthlies. You can read up on Brawl Minus here. I shall designate at least one wii for Brawl Minus after the singles and doubles tournaments.

Equipment
Please bring power strips to this event.

I believe that covers it for this update. The Original Post has also been updated.

 

[Teh Future]

why the **** would those stages be added for a CIRCUIT event that already uses a ******** stagelist.

imad

but really that should be changed.... you cant just change circuit rules once its already started

 

[Affinity]

Circuit Event
Due to some unexpected inconveniences in the two other states of this circuit, I have decided to make SLASTv2 a circuit event. This shall be the second event of the circuit, so pot cuts will apply.

Stagelist
I'm adding the four counter-pick stages in question to the stage list: Jungle Japes, Distant Planet, Luigi's Mansion, and Port Town Aero Dive.

Spoiler

NKv3 Stage List Go?

 

[Mr. Doom]

why the **** would those stages be added for a CIRCUIT event that already uses a ******** stagelist.

Yo, this is Mr. Doom, get it right. You just answered your own question, unless you were purposely trying to make your question sound rhetorical.

If you're still going to carp about it, I'll just give you and only you five stage bans because you need a handicap.