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Success and Popularity of all Characters

John12346

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Not that hard, but pretty much everyone wanted me to do a full reboot for 2012, so let's just put it that way for now, right?
 

Cassio

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Its interesting to look at this occur from the beginning. Great work as usual, although Ive realized that theres something that bugs me about how some of the data is interpreted.

When I go back and look through the tournaments for MK legal, theres only two in particular that really stand out as MK being too dominating, so something wasnt sitting well with me. It made me wonder about percentages and what it really means for one character to be x times greater than or y amount higher than another in these charts

I came away with two concerns about their intepretation, although one is familiar, aka the split characters. The second has to do with how money awarded translates to success. We generally have the standard 60/30/10 with smash. Does that mean 1st place is two times as successful as 2nd? 30 points higher? Is fourth place is 0 times as successful as 1st, 2nd, or 3rd?

For instance, Texas had a large circuit that measured success by awarding points to players as so:
49 players or less:

1st - 45 points
2nd - 35 points
3rd - 25 points
4th - 20 points
5th - 15 points
7th - 10 points
9th - 07 points
13th - 05 points

50 players or more:

1st - 95 points
2nd - 70 points
3rd - 50 points
4th - 35 points
5th - 25 points
7th - 20 points
9th - 15 points
13th - 10 points
17th - 07 points
25th - 04 points
33rd - 01 points

MLG iirc:

1st - 1200
2nd - 1000
3rd - 900
4th - 800
5th - 700
6th - 650
7th - 600
8th - 550
9th - 490
10th - 460
11th - 430
12th - 400
13th - 340
14th - 310
15th - 280
16th - 250
17th - 160
25th - 50
33rd - 5

Point being that how points/money/units are awarded can change how data is viewed. Just some food for thought when youre judging the data.
 

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Cassio brings up an excellent point. Besides, not every tourney included in these findings may have used the 60/30/10 split. If any tourney didn't, it would skew the data. Also, what if a char consistently gets, like, 4th place? That char wouldn't be represented very well in this data, cuz it wouldn't earn any money. Basically, this chart is very meaningful, but the way it's formatted, it only tells info about who's WINNING and not exactly HOW SUCCESSFUL they are in tourneys. If i've misinterpreted something, someone plz tell me. I have a tendency to sound like an idiot when I post like this.
 

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I suppose you have a point there, Cassio, but keep in mind that 60-30-10 payouts generally only occur with tournies with lower entrant counts, while pot splits will generally pay out to the Top 8 of bigger tournaments.

And... in that way, it sort of does work out, because I wouldn't want to credit too many people in a smaller entrant tournament, while I would want to do so for a larger entrant tournament.
 

Cassio

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Yeah the data in that sense is perfectly fine. I was more concerned with how it might be interpreted.
 

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Now then, the update for the weekend of 3/3/12.

Raw Data

Character
Wario: 75.5
PT: 62.5
Diddy: 61
Luigi: 30
Lucario: 42
TLink: 6
Peach: 3

User
Wario: 141
PT: 125
Diddy: 97
Luigi: 60
Lucario: 42
TLink: 12
Peach: 6

Player
TheReflexWonder Wario: 125
TheReflexWonder PT: 125
BigLou Diddy: 60
BigLou Luigi: 60
Player-1 Diddy: 25
Micaelis Wario: 10
Trela Lucario: 42
Gnes Diddy: 12
Gnes TLink: 12
Illmatic Peach: 6
Illmatic Wario: 6

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319227
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319203
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MK Legal Tournaments

Character
MK: 385.5
Olimar: 85.5
Snake: 47.5
Ness: 15
R.O.B.: 14.75
GaW: 17.25
DK: 52.5
Diddy: 40.5
Pikachu: 40.5
ICs: 77
Pit: 18
Falco: 60
Peach: 16

User
MK: 486.5
Olimar: 138.5
Snake: 82.5
Ness: 15
R.O.B.: 29.5
GaW: 21
DK: 93
Diddy: 81
Pikachu: 40.5
ICs: 132
Pit: 58
Falco: 60
Peach: 16

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319247
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319249
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319219
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319220
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319216

MK Banned Tournaments



MK Legal Tournaments

 

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^ Yes. Don't forget, you can just check out the Raw Data of the week you'd like to scope out. It lists out every tournament used for that week, so it's a lot more expedient than asking me and all that.

Anyway, here's the update! 2/17/12, and I'm swimming in a field of green!

Raw Data

Character
Diddy: 291.92
Snake: 167.32
Peach: 64.42
Olimar: 118
Z-Sheik: 7
ICs: 72.82
Falco: 13
Lucario: 84.5
DK: 19.9
Pikachu: 149.9
Marth: 118.4
Dedede: 11.42
Wolf: 9
R.O.B.: 46.33
GaW: 50.83
Kirby: 15.83
Wario: 2.42
Ness: 15
Fox: 15
Ganon: 10

User
Diddy: 304
Snake: 237
Peach: 111.5
Olimar: 139
Z-Sheik: 7
ICs: 185
Falco: 26
Lucario: 84.5
DK: 69.5
Pikachu: 246.5
Marth: 160
Dedede: 41.5
Wolf: 27
R.O.B.: 108.5
GaW: 117.5
Kirby: 47.5
Wario: 14.5
Ness: 30
Fox: 30
Ganon: 20

Player
Zinoto Diddy: 89
Rayquaza07 Snake: 41
Mike Lenetia Peach: 27
Coco Olimar: 14
Tutu Z-Sheik: 7
Roller ICs: 7
Roller Falco: 7
Gnes Diddy: 160
Trela Lucario: 80
UltimateRazer Snake: 48
Denti Olimar: 83
Cura DK: 49.5
Cura ICs: 49.5
Cura Pikachu: 49.5
Cura Snake: 49.5
Cura Marth: 49.5
Omega Tyrant Dedede: 27
Omega Tyrant Wolf: 27
Omega Tyrant Snake: 27
Vibe Marth: 9
JamesG Lucario: 4.5
Fliphop Diddy: 25.5
RoyR Marth: 8.5
Captain L Pikachu: 83
Drake R.O.B.: 47.5
Drake GaW: 47.5
Drake Kirby: 47.5
Big D Snake: 14.5
Big D Wario: 14.5
Big D Dedede: 14.5
Big D ICs: 14.5
Big D Diddy: 14.5
Big D Peach: 14.5
ESAM Pikachu: 114
ESAM ICs: 114
sushi Snake: 57
stingers R.O.B.: 19
stingers Falco: 19
Dooms Peach: 70
Dooms GaW: 70
Overswarm Olimar: 42
Overswarm R.O.B.: 42
Kel Marth: 28
Red Halberd Marth: 60
TrumpTight Ness: 30
TrumpTight Fox: 30
Maddie Diddy: 15
DLA Ganon: 20
DLA DK: 20
Oro?! Marth: 5

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318312
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318154
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318246
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318292
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318251
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318268
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318206
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318139
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318244
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30+ Entrant Tournaments

Character
Diddy: 249
Snake: 107.9
Peach: 27
Olimar: 46
Z-Sheik: 7
ICs: 13.4
Falco: 3.5
Lucario: 84.5
DK: 9.9
Pikachu: 9.9
Marth: 18.9
Dedede: 9
Wolf: 9

User
Diddy: 249
Snake: 165.5
Peach: 27
Olimar: 46
Z-Sheik: 7
ICs: 56.5
Falco: 7
Lucario: 84.5
DK: 49.5
Pikachu: 49.5
Marth: 58.5
Dedede: 27
Wolf: 27

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318312
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318154
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318246

MK Banned Tournaments



MK Legal Tournaments

This is a bit late, but I noticed the data reported here made a mistake in calculating the earnings from this tournament http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318246

The data here taken from that tournament assumes the 18 in bracket were all the entrants, when there were 34 entrants overall.
 

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Ah, good catch, here's the quick fix:

Raw Data

Cura DK: 49.5 --> 93.5(+8.8/44)
Cura ICs: 49.5 --> 93.5(+8.8/44)
Cura Pikachu: 49.5 --> 93.5(+8.8/44)
Cura Snake: 49.5 --> 93.5(+8.8/44)
Cura Marth: 49.5 --> 93.5(+8.8/44)
Omega Tyrant Dedede: 27 --> 51(+8/24)
Omega Tyrant Wolf: 27 --> 51(+8/24)
Omega Tyrant Snake: 27 --> 51(+8/24)
Vibe Marth: 9 --> 17(+8/8)
JamesG Lucario: 4.5 --> 8.5(+4/4)

Character

DK: 8.8
ICs: 8.8
Pikachu: 8.8
Snake: 16.8
Marth: 16.8
Dedede: 8
Wolf: 8
Lucario: 4

User

DK: 44
ICs: 44
Pikachu: 44
Snake: 68
Marth: 52
Dedede: 8
Wolf: 24
Lucario: 4

 

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Well, if someone wants to check my math to make sure I've done everything right, they're more than welcome to.


MK Banned Tournaments Used So Far - 42

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317073
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317039
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317062
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317035
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317355
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317341
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317321
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317438
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317508
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317600
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317615
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317611
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317595
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317594
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14008722&postcount=211
Steam said:
another colorado mk banned tourney

1. Steam (84.00) :lucario: :snake:
2. Bees! (24.00) :rob: :kirby2:
3. Rubio (12.00) :snake: :falco:
4. Jad :pikachu2: :lucas:
5. Detta :rob: :popo:
6. Soapy :yoshi2: :kirby2:
7. Khs223 :peach:
8. Lion :dedede:
9. Private :falco:
10. Spencer :lucario: :pit:
11. w619w :diddy:
12. Hollister :falco:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318033
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317893
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317881
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318312
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318154
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318246
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318292
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318251
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318268
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318206
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318139
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318244
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318627
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318608
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318586
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318554
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318635
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318651
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318926
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318920
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318997
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318927
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318928
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=318923
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319227
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319203


MK Legal Tournaments Used So Far - 26

 

-LzR-

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No one will ever know if JohnNumbers is legit since no one is going to bother checking all of those. Damn nice effort.
 

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I actually did some double checking in the previous version of the project, but it was mostly out of a "selfish" need to learn about tournaments for my own project.
 

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...omg at the diversity in this week's MK Banned results...

Weekend of 3/10/12

Raw Data

Character
Snake: 342.8
R.O.B.: 112.3
Zamus: 63.25
Marth: 134.35
Falco: 61.63
GaW: 47.75
Olimar: 63.21
Luigi: 81.4
Mario: 81.4
Wario: 51.8
Samus: 22.2
ICs: 46.08
Dedede: 111.33
TLink: 61.75
Pit: 59.75
Lucario: 162
Diddy: 30
Sonic: 45
Pikachu: 27
Fox: 21.33
Kirby: 40.33
DK: 40.33
Wolf: 33

User
Snake: 342.8
R.O.B.: 112.3
Zamus: 77.5
Marth: 144.1
Falco: 76.25
GaW: 123.75
Olimar: 129.75
Luigi: 162.8
Mario: 162.8
Wario: 74
Samus: 44.4
ICs: 143
Dedede: 301
TLink: 76
Pit: 129
Lucario: 162
Diddy: 30
Sonic: 45
Pikachu: 27
Fox: 28
Kirby: 121
DK: 121
Wolf: 66

Player
Ally Snake: 195
HolyNightmare R.O.B.: 97.5
V115 Zamus: 58.5
Suzaku Marth: 19.5
Suzaku Falco: 19.5
Patches GaW: 9.75
Tin Man Olimar: 9.75
Tin Man Falco: 9.75
Boss Luigi: 162.8
Boss Mario: 162.8
Kel Marth: 103.6
POPS Wario: 44.4
POPS Samus: 44.4
Blue Rogue Wario: 29.6
Ralph Cecil Snake: 14.8
Mister Eric R.O.B.: 14.8
Vinnie ICs: 114
Vinnie Dedede: 114
Vinnie GaW: 114
MJG TLink: 57
DeLux TLink: 19
DeLux Pit: 19
DeLux Zamus: 19
DeLux ICs: 19
Dabuz Olimar: 110
Dabuz Pit: 110
John12346 Lucario: 50 --- (I'm back, baby!)
NinjaLink Diddy: 30
MintyFlesh Marth: 10
Trela Lucario: 90
Espy Kasrani Sonic: 45
K Prime Pikachu: 27
MegaFox Fox: 18
Fatal Snake: 114
Pelca Falco: 47
Bizkit Snake: 19
NAKAT Fox: 10
NAKAT ICs: 10
NAKAT Olimar: 10
The Mauve Avenger Kirby: 121
The Mauve Avenger DK: 121
The Mauve Avenger Dedede: 121
Omega Tyrant Dedede: 66
Omega Tyrant Wolf: 66
JamesG Lucario: 22
L-Don Marth: 11

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319714
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319487
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319699
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319687
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319673
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319667
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319233
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30+ Entrant Tournaments

Character
Snake: 209.8
R.O.B.: 112.3
Zamus: 58.5
Marth: 113.35
Falco: 14.63
GaW: 9.75
Olimar: 4.88
Luigi: 81.4
Mario: 81.4
Wario: 51.8
Samus: 22.2

User
Snake: 209.8
R.O.B.: 112.3
Zamus: 58.5
Marth: 123.1
Falco: 29.25
GaW: 9.75
Olimar: 9.75
Luigi: 162.8
Mario: 162.8
Wario: 74
Samus: 44.4

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319714
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319487
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MK Legal Tournaments

Character
Snake: 50
MK: 67.5
Diddy: 25
ICs: 45
Olimar: 2.5
Pikachu: 30
Marth: 22.5
Falco: 7.5

User
Snake: 100
MK: 165
Diddy: 25
ICs: 105
Olimar: 5
Pikachu: 90
Marth: 45
Falco: 15

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319680
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319685

MK Banned Tournaments



MK Legal Tournaments

 

-LzR-

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So what is antibans argument against that MK legal chart showing absolutely unrivaled dominance by MK once again?
 

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Why was Apex even counted for this year? It skews the data horribly and its pretty much part of last year's metagame.
 

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Or, y'know, we could just compare 2012 MK Banned to 2011 MK Legal...

Edit: Especially since I don't really feel that 2012 MK Legal isn't a TRUE representation of what a MK Legal metagame is like, for various reasons mostly caused by the ban.
 

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Agh, double post, w/e sorry.

I got over my short term laziness and made the data for now. 2012 MK Legal minus the weekend of Apex.

 

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Apex doesn't just throw the #s off for MK either. While the giant pile of $$$ for MK certainly skews the data, it doesn't change the fact that MK earns over twice the $$$ any other char does, even w/out his Apex earnings. But this data is supposed to be used to determine a character's popularity, yes? So am I expected to believe Olimar is the 2nd most used character in an MK legal metagame by that large a margin? I mean, he's a successful character and all, but more than twice as successful as Snake or Diddy? People use this data to infer things about our metagame, but there's as much japanese $$$ in there as from NA. The skew may lessen over time, but it'll always be there. That's a pretty big flaw in the data, imo.

Just my 2 cents.

EDIT: LMAO, as I was posting this, he's already removing Apex from the data XD
 

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...omg at the diversity in this week's MK Banned results...
(O_o) What the heck are the Mario Bros doing with all that green? XD

Or, y'know, we could just compare 2012 MK Banned to 2011 MK Legal...

Edit: Especially since I don't really feel that 2012 MK Legal isn't a TRUE representation of what a MK Legal metagame is like, for various reasons mostly caused by the ban.
I'm guessing you meant "Especially since I don't really feel that 2012 MK Legal IS a true representation..." If so, then you're definitely right. This ban probably caused MK Legal tourneys to have a much higher ratio of MKs than usual. Even people that didn't main MK might have gotten a bit of nostalgia and decided to go MK at some random MK Legal tourney. On top of that, a lot of people who don't play MK would probably never go to a MK Legal tourney as long as MK Banned ones were available. This horribly skews the data and makes it seem like MK is winning so much more money compared to the other chars than he normally would.
 

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As if MK didn't make twice the money than all the characters combined before the ban.
 

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Thats a useless statement. Maybe you were implying something about the degree of success MKs achieves, but that would be even worse so Ill give you the benefit of the doubt...

Heres some data interpretation. Money is split 60/30/10 in tournaments, assuming you have a consensus 1st, 2nd, and 3rd best character, it would be normal to see earnings reach towards this distribution. One issue that occurs is that after MK, there isnt a consensus second best character. However add together Diddy, Snake, Olimar and Ice Climbers whaddayaknow, they hit just over 30%.

Lets try this with MK banned data. Olimar, ICs, Snake and Diddy together make up a tad over 40%, and suddenly you see some similarities. I also believe that more ground is made up from the fact that greater stability is created from having a single best character rather than a group, as a result your first best characters are more likely to falter in achieving first.
 

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Wait what, you are saying that 4 best characters in tha game after MK combined almost make as much money as MK so it's all fine? You are saying 1 dominant character is better than 4? Wat is this I don't even.
 

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I didnt say it was fine, I said it was normal. Whether or not its fine depends on your personal assessment of multiple things.
 

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Thats a useless statement. Maybe you were implying something about the degree of success MKs achieves, but that would be even worse so Ill give you the benefit of the doubt...

Heres some data interpretation. Money is split 60/30/10 in tournaments, assuming you have a consensus 1st, 2nd, and 3rd best character, it would be normal to see earnings reach towards this distribution. One issue that occurs is that after MK, there isnt a consensus second best character. However add together Diddy, Snake, Olimar and Ice Climbers whaddayaknow, they hit just over 30%.
Ok, when we add together Diddy, Snake, Oli, and ICs, they may "hit just over 30%", but I'm saying that, unless you're talking about MK Legal 2011, this data is badly skewed because those '2nd best chars' are not as abundant as they probably should be. That and there's probably a greater ratio of MK to everything else than there should be.
 

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Ah, alright, then.

Next update will have both charts' data removed for the weekend of Apex.
Of course, there weren't any MK Banned tournies on the weekend of Apex, so that won't change anyway, just MK Legal.
 

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Update for 3/17/12, and another unprecedentedly HUGE amount of diversity again. Oh, and the weekend of Apex has been successfully removed from the data.

Raw Data

Character
Dedede: 50.13
Zamus: 24.63
Wario: 31.6
Pit: 60.68
Falco: 42.73
Luigi: 1.38
Mario: 3.68
Diddy: 87.05
Olimar: 37.48
Snake: 87.35
Peach: 67.2
R.O.B.: 67.88
Wolf: 10.5
Jiggly: 10.5
Marth: 14
Link: 16.5
Sonic: 5
Lucario: 95
TLink: 23.75
ICs: 61.25
GaW: 35
Fox: 15.75
Kirby: 10.5

User
Dedede: 100.25
Zamus: 39.75
Wario: 67.7
Pit: 67.1
Falco: 104.6
Luigi: 5.5
Mario: 10.1
Diddy: 115.4
Snake: 146.2
Olimar: 55.95
Peach: 137.2
R.O.B.: 135.75
Wolf: 42
Jiggly: 42
Marth: 28
Link: 16.5
Sonic: 5
Lucario: 95
TLink: 47.5
ICs: 157.5
GaW: 105
Fox: 31.5
Kirby: 21

Player
Lee Martin Dedede: 30.25
Lee Martin Zamus: 30.25
JNig Wario: 16.5
BSP Pit: 5.5
BSP Falco: 5.5
BSP Luigi: 5.5
BSP Mario: 5.5
MAR Diddy: 2.75
HRNut Snake: 32.2
HRNut Olimar: 32.2
Kyon Peach: 32.2
GDX Diddy: 32.2
Sax Wario: 9.2
Sax Diddy: 9.2
Viper Falco: 4.6
Sensei Mario: 4.6
Sensei Pit: 4.6
SneakyTako Dedede: 70
SneakyTako R.O.B.: 70
Luminoth Wolf: 42
Luminoth Wario: 42
Luminoth Jiggly: 42
Luminoth Falco: 42
Overswarm R.O.B.: 28
Overswarm Marth: 28
Fatal Snake: 33
Fatal R.O.B.: 33
X Link: 16.5
Kid Craft 24 Sonic: 5
Trela Lucario: 95
Gnes Diddy: 47.5
Gnes TLink: 47.5
UltimateRazer Snake: 28.5
Zori Olimar: 19
Vinnie ICs: 105
Vinnie Peach: 105
Vinnie GaW: 105
Bloodcross Falco: 52.5
Bloodcross Snake: 52.5
NAKAT Fox: 31.5
NAKAT ICs: 31.5
Atomsk ICs: 21
Atomsk Kirby: 21
Zora Pit: 57
Rhyme Diddy: 23.75
C00L Zamus: 9.5
Bonkers R.O.B.: 4.75
Bonkers Olimar: 4.75

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319904
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319922
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319926
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319918
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319901
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319895
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319997
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MK Legal Tournaments

Character
MK: 16.5
Zamus: 16.5
Luigi: 6
Falco: 6
Sonic: 9
Wario: 6

User
MK: 33
Zamus: 33
Luigi: 18
Falco: 18
Sonic: 21
Wario: 6

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=319904

MK Banned Tournaments



MK Legal Tournaments

 

Pippy

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Aug 1, 2011
Messages
99
Location
Hyrule
And you wonder why we banned him...

But yea, the diversity makes things so much more interesting. Hopefully things will stay that way.
 
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